Potential cheese: With random spawning genes, sapient animals & big and small mod, sometimes VOID spawn as sapient animals that drop all their gear at spawn point for u to grab (Or if they spawn with lethal gene, they die & give u everything :D)

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

@cricketboy01, It'd be interesting/funny if VOID just nuked you back if you nuked them, but they'd have even stronger nukes

抱歉。。我看成chinese了

So nukes are really cheesy, I always see people spam them and claim they 'beat V.O.I.D' but to me it seems really unsatisfactory just to nuke them.

1.5 please

add pawnmorpher support so I can't just turn void members into chickens

Or maybe I got the cheese the wrong way here, lol.

I may be way too late, but....

Can I convince you to remove the Stalker's ability to simply open your colony doors? I found the code a while back, but I'm not really into modding these days. I just been using special doors from other mods to avoid it, but it's a pain in the neck,

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Building_Door), "PawnCanOpen")]
public static class Building_Door_Patch
{
public static void Postfix(ref bool __result, Pawn p)
{
if (p.kindDef == VoidDefOf.RH_DF2_Stalker)
{
__result = true;
}
}
}

for some reason i read this like "we dont like za cheeeze" french editon

Should make them just straight up die when eating cheese like that mod that kills you when you eat without a table

Something I noticed is that if void contact can't get to your pawns at the start of the game they'll linger around and you can box them in wherever they are and wait for them to go down from starvation and just harvest all their stuff that way. Op with vfe ancients. Void won't even go hostile.

You can circumvent their rimatomics icbm shield by sending rimatomics nuclear warheads by drop pod and activating them manually.

Invisibility shouldnt work at all against void imo, you can easily raid their base and steal tons of stuff way too easily

@Lizard_lord wouldnt call that a cheese, even an archo cant resist 10 steel traps and Void members are still made of flesh/bone

something i found is that using bear trap from vfe security, will down a single void member quickly because it is condensed damage to the legs with a 100% chance to trigger, in my testing around 10 or so steel bear traps would down a void member.

theres a low chance when loading into a void base nothing spawns so you get everything free

Can you also make them invulnerable to frostbite pls?
I just oneshot a Dusk champion with a mecha dog from Vanilla Genetics and it was
silly.
Also, they are surprisingly easy to drop with ice psycasts.

Is it possible to mod VOID so their bases have way less loot? Why should I raid other bases for loot if I could steal the best stuff from VOID?

A pawn using a combination of invisibility, plenty of go-juice, having the go-juice impervious gene, implants that buff the pawn's stats, and a hard hitting ranged VOID weapon still has the potential to solo an entire VOID base.

How about nerfing invisibility even further by extending the anti-invisibility radius from VOID pawns to 29?

Lmao I forgot about Mind Control. I thought it had to target a psychically sensitive pawn.
Shouldn't matter, since you can't take prisoners with this patch, but I'll add it.

hey so uh, about that vpe part, you should probably add mind crontrol from the harmonist tree, its literally a first tier psycast, you can get it in maybe a quadrum if you make somone meditate all day, and you can literally mind control a void agent with decent psy sensitivity, draft them, then arrest them if your close and fast enough to get them before they uncontrol themself

:) I'm seeing a lot of updates in the future. Let V.O.I.D be nigh unbeatable again!

Interesting idea. I'll look into it, although it seems harder to make than the rest of this mod's content.

Make it so VOID only attacks colonies with people in them

Updated. VOID members (and all users of the Devil implant) are immune to Deathshield, to prevent easy capture and harvest.
Nerfed Invisibility. It ticks down by five seconds per second per VOID/N4 pawn in a 2.9 radius. This means Invisibility is still good on ranged pawns, still makes it useful on melee pawns that are not trying to solo an entire base, and still scales with the psychic sensitivity of the target.
An alternative would be to make it tick down if attempting to attack a VOID/N4 pawn.

void
more like
roid

I would say cross-mod cheese is a thing, but I don't know how a game is meant to take the Doomslayer or ANY FORM OF MAGIC at all.

Or Vanilla Psycasts Expanded's KO.

CHEESE! FOR EVERYONE!

Good suggestion, Farmer Joe. I'll add that in.
I will also try and figure out a good way to handle Invisibility; vanilla cheese is still cheese.
I'm thinking proximity-based removal.

I personally do not understand how VOID works, so here I am, ready and willing to learn... by subscribing to (and not using) this mod to keep up on the new updates.

Can you make them require less food? In the 1.2 version, I loved when they attacked my caravans because i could wall a pawn in safety and leave the VOID members starve - quick "imprison" them and leave, for free bionics, human meat and/or "recruits".

suggestion. make void immune to Death Shield psycast from Necropath.
since the implant kill pawn on captured. and then the acidifier kick in on dead. Death Shield prevent both of that as the pawn don't die.

Senpai noticed me!

this gets the chicken award for lactose intolerance

randomize the PIN code so it must be discovered each run?

Like hell I'm gonna share my cheese with you, you'll plug up all the holes in my mozzarella

Yes cheese