there is also an updated version of this very mod that doesn't seem to use any animations anymore that the original mod used to do but it looks very sketchy to me, especially the latter link that i sent you.
what do you think about this?
should i use this?
or shouldn't i use this?
would you use this if you were me in this situation?
steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3542704533
steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3378593407

if your read through the comment section a few people said that this mod touches the animations of the units that were changed by this very mod.
so that's where the incompatibility with your mod comes from.

after some long testing i finally found the mod that was causing some incompatability issues with your mod.
it's this one right here and only this one.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877071147
i had all of my mods active instead of this one right here and malakai makaisson was shooting like he was normally intended to do.

More Giant Attack Animation is most likely broken but it's not the one causing the issue.

Warhammer 1 Update Project Model Fixes does contain animation tables that need to be updated if they haven't already, but it's not touching the units you have problems with.


Guns, Smoke & Spectacle causes issues with VFX, it's out of date. It doesn't seem to cause the exact issue you describe but you shouldn't use it until it's updated. Check out to see if that fixes the issue.

Other than that I don't see anything that could be causing these issues.

If you disable these mods and the issue persists, I'm going to need to see the modified.log


As for Warhammer 3 Visual Bug Fixes, sorry, the author forgot to update the title, my bad, seems to be up to date.

and should i still do a custom battle then with all the mods active for you to check the modified log file or not?

my next guess would be these mods then but i have no idea to be honest.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3237873696
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3276065270

anyway, i just made a mod compilation so you can see all the mods i currently use.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3621231667

what? that mod is not up to date?
really?

That mod contains animation tables and should not be used until it's updated BUT it's not the mod causing your issues as it doesn't touch Malakai's animations (or the Handgunner's).

my guess would be that this mod here causes an incompatibility with malakai makaisson when using it together with your mod maybe?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3278673153

You may have deactivated all the other mods in the launcher but the launcher sometimes leaves them on (hopefully the new launcher fixes this)

yeah that totally happened when i did the testing yesterday, sorry!

should i still do a custom battle then with all the mods active for you to check the modified log file or not?

since when i only use your mod, it doesn't happen in a custom battle; only with all my mods activated.

So this mod doesn't even touch hu3_dlc25_malakai_axe_and_rifle, the animation that Malakai uses which just confirms that you're using something that's messing up your animations. CA updated the animation tables this patch and any old animation mods that haven't been updated are going to cause issues.

You may have deactivated all the other mods in the launcher but the launcher sometimes leaves them on (hopefully the new launcher fixes this)

What you can do to check this: Start the game. Go to custom battle, check that the bug is still there. While the game is still running go to

%appdata%\The Creative Assembly\Warhammer3\logs

and find the modified.log file. Then write the contents of that log file here.

please fix this soon!
i love your mods!

yeah i mean when they stand still, they shoot twice, all of this happens when this is the only active mod!

also, i found a bug where malakai makaisson shoot all of his 3 shots per volley all at once and not after one another like his shooting animation may hint at.

it's very weird and very noticable with trails on too.

Lol, "please fix as soone as possible", like the modder own him money

If by shooting twice you mean when you fire -> move -> they fire again, that’s how it has always worked, because the game doesn’t really track reloading states.
If they are standing still and yet they fire twice before reloading then something in your modlist is breaking this.

some units shoot twice before reloading again like the empire handgunner state troops for example.
please fix this asap!

Read below

slaanesh dark elvs not shooting!!!!

goated comment by the way marthenil

You are using 2 out of date animation mods and yet you somehow thought that this one, the one that just got updated, is the issue?

Matched combat and the patch are currently broken as CA updated the animation tables with ToT.

Breaks dark elf dark shards for some reason....using this and mixed combat animation mods, and submod.

Thanks bro

@Buff_Cosmo
The animations will shorten to accomodate for the shorter reload time.

@一把伞一个人
The self created troops must support the custom animations via the animation tables. Ask around in the modding discord if you want to know more.

Can it be effective for self created troopsCan it be effective for self created troops

What does this do to effects that increase reload skill?

can you add nuln/amethyst ironsides to this please?

hi guns of the empire used to have the reloading animations from here. but for some reason its not happening. what can i do to try and fix that and make a submod fix?

When the units are able to reload faster does the animation speed up as well?

can u do chaos dwarfs

Thank you. That's good advice. I appreciate your time too.

If you REALLY want to keep using the CA launcher go to %appdata%/The Creative Assembly and delete the entire Launcher folder, that should fix it. You will need to reactivate your mods though.

But honestly, just use one of the community mod managers.

Okay, for me, there is no reloading animation. Curiously, again perhaps just for me, the Total War Launcher no longer recognises the mod. I can uninstall it, then reinstall it, and it is invisible when I start the launcher. When I reported the problem initially, the mod was visible in the launcher, but that is no longer the case after I uninstalled it and then reinstalled it.

Like Marthenil said, it looks like the only solution for me is to use a community mod manager.

Yea this definitely still works for Empire handgunners for me, even when running a ton of mods.

Either your mod is not properly activated (use one of the community mod managers) or the units in question are custom and their authors don't support reloading animations.

Noticed it not working for Empire units post 6.3 update

pls update

needs update

pls update

Ironsides not working(
Amethist too

Update pls

Tested with handgunners in a skirmish and the reload and animation was working just fine.

copy that. ty.

Runcher or Prop Joes, up to you, I like both and use both. Can't recommend one or the other.

which mod manager do u use?

Unsub and resub and use one of the community mod managers to make sure the mod is activated, it's working just fine for 6.2.0

seems to have broken with the recent patch empire handgunners have no animation for reloading

Depends on the patch. Generally speaking, it doesn't need an update for smaller patches, only major releases with massive amounts of new skeletons/animations tend to need an update.

Just activate it and go to custom battle with the empire, if the handgunners reload just fine then it doesn't need to be updated, if they stop firing or the animations look janky it needs an update. That's all really.

does this need updating for each patch?I can never remember