At the moment I can report the SMTF mod works without this submod (and 47 other mods running!)

Love to see evergreen submods, thanks for this homie!

Probably not, but have not tested it. It only changes a few small things in files that have not been changed since the game was released, so it will likely always work (so long as the main mod does).
If you try it please tell me if it works, and I'll update it if it needs one.

Hey, does this require an update? Thanks

Cool, thanks for the feedback

yes it works, thank you very much!

Does it work now then?

corrupted files after the quick update was the reason for the crash. sorry for the unnecessary frustration!

Then I have no idea why it doesnt work, it worked fine for me, and there shouldn't be any reason for the game to crash. Did you have them all activated?

yes, just sfo, this mod and its parent

Are you using any other mods? (aside from sfo and the main mod of course)

still crashing for me too

stil ctds on launch unfortunately

Does it work now?

Simular problem as @Elnestea. Mods included: 1. Fatigue SFO submod 2. Fatigue Main 3. SFO Main

I'll take another look, worked on my pc, but mabye I overlooked something

Jack o'neil, in CAMPAIGN it is applied to ALL units (if they are added by mods or not), but in CUSTOM BATTLE it need to be applied manually, so it only works for vanilla units in custom battle (since I don't want to go through all the units every update, and campaign is where it really matters in my opinion). The abilities are added one by one as exhaustion gets worse, so "avtive" = -x%, winded = -x% -x%, "tired" = -x% -x% -x%

it seems that since the update this mod prevents my game to launch, stick in loading then abort procedure

Hey, sorry I deleted my comment because I thought I was wrong, but yeah, you don't seem to have the SFO units in here? Also I'm super confused trying to work out how the math on the DB tables work, as they all seem the same for the different levels?

Crashes since update, can't use it with show me the fatigue main mod, therefore campaign files can't be loaded. Update again please, would appreciate

This crashes if I use with the Show me the Fatigue! main mod.

If i use either the main mod or this one by itself it does not crash.

update plz

CTD. I have all the required mods

This mod still causes CTD when enabled.
I have been trying to discover which mod caused CTD and this was the only one that caused it.
Not yet updated or fixed!

This gives me a ctd but then again, i'm using about 230ish mods with sfo 3.0

Apologies for the mod being broken for so long, I took an extended break from modding/playing the game.

I also had trouble reproducing the crash, since it seams to happen inconsistently. After more testing I also experienced the reported crashes.

The mod should now be fixed. It was caused by me misunderstanding how file overwriting works.

I had previously named the file to load before sfo/main mod, and the table was named the same for overwriting. Apparently the table should use the same naming protocol to load before what is overwrites. Anecdotally this seams to not be required in all cases, and I suspect it is more necessary when overwriting large files, but I don't know for sure. Hope this was useful.

tried testing with only this mod the parent mod and sfo and i crashed to desktop,
I wonder if SFO changes to how fatigue works creates conflicts ?
Love ya work, the thumbnail is dope.

Using several (hundred ) mods and combinations, alas, this is the CTD crasher as the others mentioning!

ctd

CTD for me as well

Confirming that this is the only mod that will cause a CTD for me. I'm using 58 total mods and this is the one mod that will cause a CTD while starting the game. Disable it... everything else works fine.

ctd to me as well

CTD for me too, yes this specific mod.
The basic fatigue mod with latest SFO, without this submod load just fine.

Are you sure this mod is the cause, I just tested it and it worked fine. Could it be another mod?

xBlueye, the load order should be automatic, and load the submod before the main mod. The automatic load order is "alphabetically" (+ numbers/signs), and the submod should autmatically be placed before the main mod and sfo. Mods loaded before others overwrite whatever comes after, which is what you want from a submod.

This does not need an update no, it still works.

I also get CTD on the opening loading screen regardless of which order the mod/submod are in

CTD for me

Does this need an update?

If you really want to use the mod and don't mind messing with the files, you could copy over the files in the submod into the main mod (overwriting what's what's there), and that should work

I don't get it either then, the only explanation I can see for why it would "work" but with the vanilla values and not the SFO values is if the SFO submod is loaded after the main mod, but if changing it doesn't work I really have no idea what the issue could be.
You could try just switching the order of the main mod and submod, though I'm not particularly confident that will work. In any case, I'm sorry the mod doesn't work for you

reverse order is what it was originally, where it doesn't crash but the fatigue effects are vanilla and not SFO. not sure what could be causing it to crash if yours doesn't since i deleted the mods and reinstalled them to make sure they are all on the latest version in case that was the problem so i should have the same versions as you.

It works fine for me, I just tried it, mabye your load order is reversed, if you try the complete opposite order, that might work

huh, if i have that load order it CTDs on game launch, even with only those 3 mods installed as a fresh install

Hi, have you checked the load order? It should be 1. "Show me the Fatigue! - SFO submod", 2. "Show me the Fatigue!", 3. "SFO"

I just checked for me, and it works fine (displaying the correct SFO's values), from what you described it's probably load order. The load order should be automatic (alphabetically sorted by file name (not the displayed name)), but if it isn't you'll have to manually sort them or make it automatic again.

Not sure if this is intentional but this mod displays the vanilla fatigue effects instead of the SFO ones, in SFO units lose 5% all stats for each level of fatigue. not sure if its just the display is wrong and they are getting the SFO effects or if they are also getting vanilla effects

My load order is
SMTF! - SFO submod
SMTF!
SFO: Grimhammer

I have changed this to
SFO: Grimhammer
SMTF!
SMTF! - SFO submod

And now it works.

... I'm an idiot! And possibly Total War's auto-configure load order is also dumb. Thanks, nopunctuation, sorry for the silly user error.

Works fine for me, did you remember to install both the main mod, and the submod?

yup this causes crash with SFO

Both mods are needed, thats the case for most submods I belive.

do i need both mods for it to work? the regular and this version?

I've just tested with both the main SFO mod, and the SFO battles, both work fine for me.

Do you have the correct mods installed? (You need "Show me the Fatigue!" and "Show me the Fatigue! - SFO submod", and either "SFO: Grimhammer III Land of Wealth" or "SFO: Grimhammer III - BATTLES")

Have you changed your load order?

Looks like today's update broke this - Game crashes after launch.