Bestowing ceremony appears to use the same code, so it should also matter only at the start.

@VitaKaninen For Ideology, it's tested that only the cleanliness at the launch of the ritual matters.
For Royalty, if it can fail the ceremony, it's only ceremony for higher titles, you should be able to design the ceremony room beeing dirt proof, or keeping a janitor.

I think that it is a very good thing to have your people cleaning during the ceremony, since your honor rewards and also Ideology rewards are largely based on the room impressiveness.

One time, when I was first starting a colony and was trying to get my first psylink, I got the room impressiveness well over the threshold and invited the Empire to bestow my title on me.

During the the ceremony, all the guards kept wandering in and out of the building, and dragged so much dirt inside that they lowered the room impressiveness by over 30 points and they failed me right in the middle of the ceremony, when they were the cause of it.

I see. As far as I can judge it's "startingVal" in RitualOutcomeComp_RoomStat.

Because some people like me think (wrongly?) that the room stats matter until the end of ceremony ^^'
I will check and patch it tonight

@Yoann: Why would anyone want pawns to clean during a ceremony? It looks rather silly, and room stats for rituals are computed just once at the start.

@llunak I will think about it, as I think player normaly cannot force pawns participing the ceremony to clean

Can you please add "SpectateCeremony" to the list of jobs that do not clean (added by Patches/CleanOnOpportunity.xml)? The great avil thinks that a proper marriage, bestowing or role change ritual is one where pawns run around obsessively with brooms instead of paying attention to the ceremony.

Nothing, only updated the tag.
I need to play 1.5 to see if opportunistic cleaning happens in new bad circumstances.

guessing just an offical 1.5 tweak?

wow an update since 2022! what changed

It should still works with 1.5, only new jobs would not be covered.
If the outdated tag version is bothering, you are free to edit the about file.

I haven't time to update any of my mods/patches.

would love to see this updated to 1.5

I will look if the wedding ceremony is a seperate event. I skipped the ceremonies because the cleaness of the room can have impact for somes.
For the events of VE, I will not patch them. If it's real issues, you can try to ask to the authors of Common Sense or Vanilla Social Interactions Expanded to fix it. Or do a little patch by yourself (nothing hard to do, I just don't have time).

It would be great to also add "Wedding Ceremony" events, and events related to Vanilla Social Interactions Expanded, including "Dating" as exceptions. These events are now causing issues with Common Sense.

@tw_boring I don't think, it will affects also the cleaning bedroom for no-sick people.
It's a request to do for Common Sense mod, not this patch.

Can you add cleaning are disabled for sick person?
sick person. they are prefer to clean more then rest.

I hope you can find time to update it soon!

seems handy

Thanks

Nice

Extremely useful