Can’t get this mod to work with HIP. Any idea what might be causing the issue or how I could fix it?

I'm not saying it hasn't been practiced or even that it's inherently always all bad, but it is an idea that has led a lot of people to some really harmful ideologies. I'm just saying to be careful and to understand that link so it doesn't take you down those paths of thinking and feed hate or discrimination.

eugenics already practiced in real life for long time until the industrial revolution. But now it has returned with vitro and gene editing.

Also, I will add, in the game is one thing, but be careful about how you apply genetics and breeding concepts to real life humans. That's called eugenics, and has been a motivator for a lot of discrimination and genocide.

@bokonoo Improved Genetics is an apt name still, because it's vastly more realistic than vanilla. And while the vanilla inbred trait is unrealistic in its severity and method of inheritance, it is still a fact that consistent inbreeding has a high risk of bringing out negative recessive genes, so it's never a purely positive thing.

Honestly, while this mod does make Improved Genetics more realistic, I think it also kind of swings the pendulum slightly in the other direction, making it unrealistically a bit too easy to "breed" genius, attractive, etc. family lines that don't experience any drawbacks from consistent inbreeding. The problem is just that there aren't really enough negative recessive traits in the game, and there also aren't any recessive positive traits or dominant negative traits.

inbreeding is a necessary act to select best fit traits for the environment hence why genetic purging primary means inbreeding. So yeah, this is far more realistic than supposed "improved genetics" mod. Plus many breeds you see like racing horses or various types of dog breeds are result of at least 3 generation of sibling mating

@cmeier Read the description lol. I made this mod because I use the Improved Genetics mod for all of my games, which more realistically simulates the way that incest compounds recessive genes. The vanilla inbred trait just made the game feel super unbalanced and unrealistic when also using the Improved Genetics mod, so I removed it. This mod isn't about "making incest not bad". Though of course I can't control how other people use it.

I can't believe you posted a comment about a mod file name radical islam best Islam when you have a mod about making incest not bad! You're really outing your personal views here.

If you installed the mod mid-playthrough, then it could still persist. The mod doesn't fully remove the trait, just its chances of initially appearing. So if, for example, a character is born to someone who already has the inbred trait, the new character could still inherit it. If that's the problem, I'd recommend trying to remove all characters with the trait via console commands, or waiting for it to potentially die out.

If you started the game with the mod, though, or if you're still getting the trait on characters whose parents didn't have the trait, then it's probably a mod conflict. In that case, if you send me a zip of all your mods, I could sort through them and find the conflict, and potentially add them as dependencies to fix the conflict. You could send that through a google drive, mediafire, or dropbox link, or email me at quinstudios@gmail.com.

Thanks for the explanation! I like realistic genetics so this will definitely go into my mod list then.

So that was the primary purpose of this mod. To closer represent the reality of the effects of inbreeding, rather than playing into common misconceptions and stereotypes popularized in the media.

That said, if you want to add back the inbred trait, it shouldn't be hard. This mod only edits one file (if I remember correctly), and it's pretty self explanatory what each line in the file does, so you could easily just remove that line.

@PetLoverSpy No, the trait was completely removed. I created this with one of the Improved Genetics mods in mind, because it adds its own more realistic inbreeding penalties.

For example, if using this with, say, Improved Genetics Advanced, then the more you inbreed the more likely you'll increase recessive genes like dwarfism, harelip, lisp, ugly, clubfooted, imbecile, etc.

The main purpose of the mod is to make the mechanics of inbreeding a bit more accurate to real life (when used with one of the mentioned mods). Inbreeding irl doesn't magically make offspring mutated or lunatics, unlike its portrayal by popular media. All it does is increase the chance of passing on and expressing recessive genes that are already within the family's gene pool. This means that it's perfectly possible, while likely very rare, that if you happen to have extremely healthy genes and very few negative recessive genes, inbreeding may not actually have any negative effects.

So characters can still get the inbred trait from, well, being extremely inbred, yes? Want to make sure I'm not removing that!

@Ethoral Yeah. And at the end of the day, it's just a game. A game where things like child murder are already rather normalized, at that. So this is really just a drop in the ocean that already is ck2...

@QuinoaFalafel This mod definitely useful for keeping certain genetic traits alive in the family. As the saying goes, "incest is wincest". Personally, I use it for memes with friends I play with in multiplayer (although some disagree with it, lol).

@Ethoral Yeah, I get the sus aspect of it. I debated whether or not I should even make it public for that very reason. But I figured there were probably other people out there who used the Improved Genetics mod (or similar mods), and didn't like how the vanilla incest mechanics messed with the realism.

Ultimately, I see it as a tool. The way it's used is entirely on the user. For my part, I definitely wouldn't ever use it to completely disable incest penalties, but of course I'm sure plenty of people downloading it will. It's kind of just a trade-off that I have to accept.

This mod is SUS, but for my eugenics program, i shall have

i dont know how to feel about this one