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Tragedy Looper | Complete Edition [2024] [ENG]
75 Comments
Habanero Jan 6 @ 11:50pm 
It arrived. I'm going to look through the Common files that the JP publisher provided, I also might not have to scan everything depending on what resolution the assets here are in. There's a thread here on BGG that goes over differences/changes, but I want to compare with the JP version too for any mistranslations (Transfer Student has a mistake in the reprint, for example).

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3102933/tragedy-looper-new-tragedies-version-comparison

Also, can you add the original playmat as an option? The new playmat doesn't look good, it's a bad upscale (the text is all warped and ugly). I'm guessing the Rei playmat doesn't have a good scan available.
RaiNightcry  [author] Nov 30, 2024 @ 7:55pm 
Yes, that would be a great help. I could update and edit any text changes
Habanero Nov 28, 2024 @ 11:16am 
I'm considering buying the New Tragedies reprint since it fixes a lot of the Z-Man typos, mistranslations, etc. The current TTS uploads use the old Z-Man as a base right? If you're up for updating this I can possibly scan it, or at least provide a transcription of any text changes.
Chronicle  [author] Sep 25, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
You're very welcome. <3
Fake Helix Sword Sep 25, 2023 @ 6:58am 
Thank you very much, I understand the friend thing, though :D
Didn't want to litter the comment section.
I'll publish mine once I write the annotation.
Much love <3
Chronicle  [author] Sep 25, 2023 @ 6:54am 
@Fake Helix Sword, firstly - I apologize for ignoring your friend request. I don't tend to typically accept friend requests on steam from people I don't know.

More importantly though, you have my full permission to publish a localization of Tragedy Looper! Should you do the expansions later, know you also have my permission for those, too!

Enjoy playing! <3
Fake Helix Sword Sep 25, 2023 @ 6:02am 
Greetings! Sorry for my English in advance, just in case :)
I've made a localization of Tragedy Looper (not the expansions, though) based on the assets of your mod.
Don't know whether it's neccessary or not, but I'd like to request a permission to publish mine to Steam workshop. I'll credit your mod and Devantar's gorgeous gameboard, of course.

Here are some screenshots in case you're interested:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2075652812749353298/8CDB1B0733FD684094BACFA30F1F45690F107F3D/?imw=5000&imh=5000
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2075652812749352449/BDC786A77F5256FE62AB27FAC20E6DD0FD7CFBC2/?imw=5000&imh=5000
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2075652812749351164/3DB85857F4A8DEBAEAAAA1365DEFF40CCA441E0A/?imw=5000&imh=5000
Chronicle  [author] Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:00pm 
@Pastel Nightmares, My apologies - the new Steam UI turned off my notifications! In the Mastermind View, there is a small white bag which contains the other player sheets for the other tragedy sets, you can switch it from there!

@ThatOneGuy, Bingo! I'll have that switched as soon as I am able to get back home.
ThatOneGuy Jul 18, 2023 @ 4:16am 
Hello! I did some looking around and it seems the website hosting that image just changed the URL slightly - the old (broken) link is https://bgfons.com/uploads/iron_texture1050.jpg while the correct one should be https://bgfons.com/uploads/iron/iron_texture1050.jpg
Pastel Nightmares Jul 3, 2023 @ 11:08pm 
Also one more question, how to switch to a different player sheet for the tragedy set? I only see the first step and cannot change it
Pastel Nightmares Jul 3, 2023 @ 10:57pm 
Hi, it seems that the table cannot be loaded when I load this workshop item, it seems the image http://bgfons.com/upload/iron_texture1050.jpg cannot be loaded.
Chronicle  [author] Jun 11, 2023 @ 12:27pm 
@ShadowExtreme, gotcha - I'll try and fix that by permanently changing the texture. Must be a server issue.
MirenBlacksword Jun 11, 2023 @ 12:26pm 
update: after a few playthroughs, we realized the missing texture is actually the black part of the table (that is mostly covering the space under the scripts and the token bags etc), and it was showing up for my friends in the states but not for me (who lives in turkey). So we just replaced it with another texture and it works properly now.
Chronicle  [author] Jun 7, 2023 @ 9:48am 
@ShadowExtreme, Tragedy Looper's full of fun mysteries! :D
MirenBlacksword Jun 7, 2023 @ 8:36am 
Thanks a lot! Seems like there is even more in this little gem than i thought.
Chronicle  [author] Jun 7, 2023 @ 8:01am 
If you want to go the randomization path in regards to scripts, you can use this still WIP generator to do so: https://alephtwo.github.io/tragedy-looper-generator/

Please note that this generator could result in some logic errors in regards to certain Main/Sub-Plots later down the line. My advice would be to tweak these scripts as you gain more experience with the sets. Especially the more advanced ones.

If you want to eventually download some custom scripts, you can also start from here: https://github.com/Redless/script-collection
Chronicle  [author] Jun 7, 2023 @ 8:01am 
@ShadowExtreme, this game is infinitely replayable if you design your own scenario using tools you can find online.

To answer your second question; for the most part, yes. However, the human brain works in mysterious ways and we sometimes tend to forget about things we've already done in the past. It really boils down to if the Mastermind remembers how the scenario actually goes.

Tragedy Loopers is a very replayable game with some creativity. There used to be a site for custom scripts called tragedylooperscripts.com , but the site has unfortunately stopped working since a few months ago.

If you want to go about making your own script cards, there was something called 'loopcard-master', but I can't seem to find it anywhere online.

cont.
MirenBlacksword Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:35am 
While im here I had another question, how replayable is this game?

I understand that it's scenario based and from what i can see there is a lot of them, but once we run out, is that the end?

also you cant be a protagonist in a scenario you were already the mastermind of right?
Chronicle  [author] Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:28am 
@ShadowExtreme, you're very welcome! Enjoy your looping through time with your group, and good luck.

You might need it. X]
MirenBlacksword Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:26am 
thanks a lot for the response! it already has some kinda space-y background, and I think it fits the vibe, so all good.
Chronicle  [author] Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:20am 
@ShadowExtreme, Not a problem! The background itself shouldn't be a problem. You can just replace it with something else.

You're very welcome, though! Tragedy Looper is a wonderful game. :D
MirenBlacksword Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:15am 
http://bgfons.com/upload/iron_texture1050.jpg

going off of the website, it's the background, but I wanted to make sure.

Thanks a lot for the mod btw! My group has been craving something like this
Chronicle  [author] Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:12am 
@ShadowExtreme, hmm I'm not having any issues on my end. What exactly is this 'iron' texture?
MirenBlacksword Jun 7, 2023 @ 7:02am 
iron texture doesn't load. Is it an important texture/can I fix it?
Chronicle  [author] Jan 24, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
@BobShick, you're in luck! I think I've got exactly what you're looking for on my hard drive. I'm still keen and available to update this game asap as soon as potential new content launches, so I've still got everything.

I sent you a friend request through Steam. I'll send you everything through a zip file, there. :D
BobShick Jan 24, 2023 @ 10:44am 
Hello, I don't know if you'll actually see this, but I am trying to both make a pnp of the content that hasn't been published in English as well as to change the character artwork in my copy to sprites from various VN. I have access to the image files in the mod which have changed the text to English at a quality that I can't hope to replicate. The problem is that to change the artwork, I would need to use the PSD files of the original cards from the Japanese Tragedy Looper website. Before I had access to the files here, I was going to change the text on the Photoshop files myself, but I do not have the skills to change anything other than the basic ability text with any kind of quality. Were the translations made to the cards in this mod based off of the Japanese Photoshop files? If so, is there any way to access the original translated files (with the three layers), so that I can substitute the artwork?
The Wise Wolf Aug 27, 2022 @ 4:18pm 
Honestly never played anything on TTS with people outside of my friend group..
But I'll tag you if I ever plan on trying that.
Chronicle  [author] Aug 27, 2022 @ 3:59pm 
@The Wise Wolf, Glad to hear it! if you'd ever want players; add me on steam. I'd be down to joining a few sessions. I also usually play as the Mastermind, but I'd love to be Protagonist, more often.
The Wise Wolf Aug 27, 2022 @ 3:33pm 
@Chronicle
Looking forward to those!
Shame it's extremely hard to find people who want to play this in my friend circle (aside from one person, but he would also prefer to be the mastermind..)
Chronicle  [author] Aug 27, 2022 @ 1:56pm 
@The Wise Wolf, silly me. I'll fix that. In regards to Custom Scripts - I've been working on a batch of 12 Custom Scripts myself that I'll eventually add to the game.
The Wise Wolf Aug 27, 2022 @ 12:28pm 
I wonder.. Those scripts are much older than the newest set, so they would be kinda out of place.
Oh well, always can start making my own scripts once we run out.

Also, small thing, it seems in the latest version you left Basic Tragedy set on the table (covering First Steps) instead of in the bag as always.

(I hope those bug reports aren't too annoying..)
Chronicle  [author] Aug 27, 2022 @ 12:01pm 
@The Wise Wolf, not 100% sure on that. I would assume no, but some of those scripts may have been included in the Rei Expansion in English.
The Wise Wolf Aug 27, 2022 @ 11:32am 
Unrelated to the mod directly, but the "Script Collection" japanese expansion was never translated, right? (I guess it was just scripts so a translation would just *be* the expansion)
Chronicle  [author] Aug 27, 2022 @ 1:30am 
@The Wise Wolf, I'll fix that asap. That explains certain issues we had when playing that script.
The Wise Wolf Aug 26, 2022 @ 6:25pm 
@Chronicle
Oh, also, I'm not sure how easy this is of a fix, but base game, scenario 8 has a misprint on the mastermind card.
The Informant should be just a Person (according to Zman games, on bgg forums) as there can't be two Conspiracy Theorists.
Chronicle  [author] Aug 26, 2022 @ 4:14pm 
@The Wise Wolf, You're welcome! <3 I am not well-versed in the scripting department, but with that being said; if you ever figure out how to do it - add me on steam, and we'll talk there! :D
The Wise Wolf Aug 26, 2022 @ 4:03pm 
@chronicle
Thanks!
I assume you don't play on adding any scripting to this mod?
Something like they keybinds to drop tokens (like the Spirit Island mod has, for exameple) would be really neat, but I know how complicated adding such things is.
As a part of that, if I ever spent the time to figure how to add this, would you be interested?
Chronicle  [author] Aug 26, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
@The Wise Wolf, There would be not, unless I am mistaken; but I do not believe I am. I'll make the adjustment for infinite bags, posthaste. I've just been so used to copy pasting the tokens that when we play - we just ignore the fact that they are limited completely! :p
The Wise Wolf Aug 26, 2022 @ 2:36pm 
@Chronicle
Is there ever a situation in the rules where running out of particular type of token matters?
Because I was wondering if having infinite bags for the tokens would be better, since then you can just delete them at the end of the loop.
Chronicle  [author] Aug 25, 2022 @ 8:20am 
@The Wise Wolf, No problem! That would do it. The Extra Cards are also treated as 'Traitor' Cards in the Last Liar Set.
The Wise Wolf Aug 24, 2022 @ 5:00pm 
Oh nevermind, I can't ready.
It says to treat the Extra cards as Curse cards for this set. It's not a separate card type.
The Wise Wolf Aug 24, 2022 @ 4:58pm 
@Chronicle
Cosmic Evil expansion. See for example Player's Handbook page 3 - "Curse cards".
I think specifically used (only?) in Prime Evil tragedy set.
Chronicle  [author] Aug 24, 2022 @ 3:20pm 
@The Wise Wolf, Maybe my memory is failing me but I do not recall any 'Curse' Cards being a part of Tragedy Looper. For which set are you trying to find and use these cards?
The Wise Wolf Aug 24, 2022 @ 2:57pm 
Am I blind, or are there no Curse cards?
Chronicle  [author] May 18, 2022 @ 3:34am 
@Justin Sane, thank you for your kind words! <3
Justin Sane May 17, 2022 @ 9:31pm 
I adore this game. Thank you for showing it love!
AMoose Apr 5, 2022 @ 11:02am 
No problem! There's only the one included by default anyway.
Chronicle  [author] Apr 5, 2022 @ 5:14am 
@AMoose, unfortunately; that has not been officially made yet. For the time being, please add a little note to give yourself and the ones you are playing with a reminder that you are playing with the '+' set.
AMoose Apr 5, 2022 @ 3:02am 
Fantastic mod, thank you so much for this.

Am I missing something with the Augmented scripts.

If they choose to do so, they should should append a “+” to the Tragedy Set’s name on the script cards, for example “Basic Tragedy+”. Adding these rules generally increases the difficulty of a script, so do so judiciously.
In an augmented Tragedy Set, an additional Subplot, Role, and 2 Incidents are available. When creating such a script, choose 2 of the now 8 possible Subplots. The Incidents may be added as any other Incident would be. The new Fragment Role requires some additional accommodation.

Is there anything in this mod as a reference for this, or should I just make a little notecard that explains the Fragment, subplot and incidents?