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Tragedy Looper | Complete Edition [2024] [ENG]
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Habanero 6. jan. kl. 23:50 
It arrived. I'm going to look through the Common files that the JP publisher provided, I also might not have to scan everything depending on what resolution the assets here are in. There's a thread here on BGG that goes over differences/changes, but I want to compare with the JP version too for any mistranslations (Transfer Student has a mistake in the reprint, for example).

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3102933/tragedy-looper-new-tragedies-version-comparison

Also, can you add the original playmat as an option? The new playmat doesn't look good, it's a bad upscale (the text is all warped and ugly). I'm guessing the Rei playmat doesn't have a good scan available.
RaiNightcry  [ophavsmand] 30. nov. 2024 kl. 19:55 
Yes, that would be a great help. I could update and edit any text changes
Habanero 28. nov. 2024 kl. 11:16 
I'm considering buying the New Tragedies reprint since it fixes a lot of the Z-Man typos, mistranslations, etc. The current TTS uploads use the old Z-Man as a base right? If you're up for updating this I can possibly scan it, or at least provide a transcription of any text changes.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 25. sep. 2023 kl. 13:16 
You're very welcome. <3
Fake Helix Sword 25. sep. 2023 kl. 6:58 
Thank you very much, I understand the friend thing, though :D
Didn't want to litter the comment section.
I'll publish mine once I write the annotation.
Much love <3
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 25. sep. 2023 kl. 6:54 
@Fake Helix Sword, firstly - I apologize for ignoring your friend request. I don't tend to typically accept friend requests on steam from people I don't know.

More importantly though, you have my full permission to publish a localization of Tragedy Looper! Should you do the expansions later, know you also have my permission for those, too!

Enjoy playing! <3
Fake Helix Sword 25. sep. 2023 kl. 6:02 
Greetings! Sorry for my English in advance, just in case :)
I've made a localization of Tragedy Looper (not the expansions, though) based on the assets of your mod.
Don't know whether it's neccessary or not, but I'd like to request a permission to publish mine to Steam workshop. I'll credit your mod and Devantar's gorgeous gameboard, of course.

Here are some screenshots in case you're interested:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2075652812749353298/8CDB1B0733FD684094BACFA30F1F45690F107F3D/?imw=5000&imh=5000
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2075652812749352449/BDC786A77F5256FE62AB27FAC20E6DD0FD7CFBC2/?imw=5000&imh=5000
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2075652812749351164/3DB85857F4A8DEBAEAAAA1365DEFF40CCA441E0A/?imw=5000&imh=5000
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 22. juli 2023 kl. 15:00 
@Pastel Nightmares, My apologies - the new Steam UI turned off my notifications! In the Mastermind View, there is a small white bag which contains the other player sheets for the other tragedy sets, you can switch it from there!

@ThatOneGuy, Bingo! I'll have that switched as soon as I am able to get back home.
ThatOneGuy 18. juli 2023 kl. 4:16 
Hello! I did some looking around and it seems the website hosting that image just changed the URL slightly - the old (broken) link is https://bgfons.com/uploads/iron_texture1050.jpg while the correct one should be https://bgfons.com/uploads/iron/iron_texture1050.jpg
Pastel Nightmares 3. juli 2023 kl. 23:08 
Also one more question, how to switch to a different player sheet for the tragedy set? I only see the first step and cannot change it
Pastel Nightmares 3. juli 2023 kl. 22:57 
Hi, it seems that the table cannot be loaded when I load this workshop item, it seems the image http://bgfons.com/upload/iron_texture1050.jpg cannot be loaded.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 11. juni 2023 kl. 12:27 
@ShadowExtreme, gotcha - I'll try and fix that by permanently changing the texture. Must be a server issue.
MirenBlacksword 11. juni 2023 kl. 12:26 
update: after a few playthroughs, we realized the missing texture is actually the black part of the table (that is mostly covering the space under the scripts and the token bags etc), and it was showing up for my friends in the states but not for me (who lives in turkey). So we just replaced it with another texture and it works properly now.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 7. juni 2023 kl. 9:48 
@ShadowExtreme, Tragedy Looper's full of fun mysteries! :D
MirenBlacksword 7. juni 2023 kl. 8:36 
Thanks a lot! Seems like there is even more in this little gem than i thought.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 7. juni 2023 kl. 8:01 
If you want to go the randomization path in regards to scripts, you can use this still WIP generator to do so: https://alephtwo.github.io/tragedy-looper-generator/

Please note that this generator could result in some logic errors in regards to certain Main/Sub-Plots later down the line. My advice would be to tweak these scripts as you gain more experience with the sets. Especially the more advanced ones.

If you want to eventually download some custom scripts, you can also start from here: https://github.com/Redless/script-collection
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 7. juni 2023 kl. 8:01 
@ShadowExtreme, this game is infinitely replayable if you design your own scenario using tools you can find online.

To answer your second question; for the most part, yes. However, the human brain works in mysterious ways and we sometimes tend to forget about things we've already done in the past. It really boils down to if the Mastermind remembers how the scenario actually goes.

Tragedy Loopers is a very replayable game with some creativity. There used to be a site for custom scripts called tragedylooperscripts.com , but the site has unfortunately stopped working since a few months ago.

If you want to go about making your own script cards, there was something called 'loopcard-master', but I can't seem to find it anywhere online.

cont.
MirenBlacksword 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:35 
While im here I had another question, how replayable is this game?

I understand that it's scenario based and from what i can see there is a lot of them, but once we run out, is that the end?

also you cant be a protagonist in a scenario you were already the mastermind of right?
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:28 
@ShadowExtreme, you're very welcome! Enjoy your looping through time with your group, and good luck.

You might need it. X]
MirenBlacksword 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:26 
thanks a lot for the response! it already has some kinda space-y background, and I think it fits the vibe, so all good.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:20 
@ShadowExtreme, Not a problem! The background itself shouldn't be a problem. You can just replace it with something else.

You're very welcome, though! Tragedy Looper is a wonderful game. :D
MirenBlacksword 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:15 
http://bgfons.com/upload/iron_texture1050.jpg

going off of the website, it's the background, but I wanted to make sure.

Thanks a lot for the mod btw! My group has been craving something like this
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:12 
@ShadowExtreme, hmm I'm not having any issues on my end. What exactly is this 'iron' texture?
MirenBlacksword 7. juni 2023 kl. 7:02 
iron texture doesn't load. Is it an important texture/can I fix it?
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 24. jan. 2023 kl. 13:12 
@BobShick, you're in luck! I think I've got exactly what you're looking for on my hard drive. I'm still keen and available to update this game asap as soon as potential new content launches, so I've still got everything.

I sent you a friend request through Steam. I'll send you everything through a zip file, there. :D
BobShick 24. jan. 2023 kl. 10:44 
Hello, I don't know if you'll actually see this, but I am trying to both make a pnp of the content that hasn't been published in English as well as to change the character artwork in my copy to sprites from various VN. I have access to the image files in the mod which have changed the text to English at a quality that I can't hope to replicate. The problem is that to change the artwork, I would need to use the PSD files of the original cards from the Japanese Tragedy Looper website. Before I had access to the files here, I was going to change the text on the Photoshop files myself, but I do not have the skills to change anything other than the basic ability text with any kind of quality. Were the translations made to the cards in this mod based off of the Japanese Photoshop files? If so, is there any way to access the original translated files (with the three layers), so that I can substitute the artwork?
The Wise Wolf 27. aug. 2022 kl. 16:18 
Honestly never played anything on TTS with people outside of my friend group..
But I'll tag you if I ever plan on trying that.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 27. aug. 2022 kl. 15:59 
@The Wise Wolf, Glad to hear it! if you'd ever want players; add me on steam. I'd be down to joining a few sessions. I also usually play as the Mastermind, but I'd love to be Protagonist, more often.
The Wise Wolf 27. aug. 2022 kl. 15:33 
@Chronicle
Looking forward to those!
Shame it's extremely hard to find people who want to play this in my friend circle (aside from one person, but he would also prefer to be the mastermind..)
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 27. aug. 2022 kl. 13:56 
@The Wise Wolf, silly me. I'll fix that. In regards to Custom Scripts - I've been working on a batch of 12 Custom Scripts myself that I'll eventually add to the game.
The Wise Wolf 27. aug. 2022 kl. 12:28 
I wonder.. Those scripts are much older than the newest set, so they would be kinda out of place.
Oh well, always can start making my own scripts once we run out.

Also, small thing, it seems in the latest version you left Basic Tragedy set on the table (covering First Steps) instead of in the bag as always.

(I hope those bug reports aren't too annoying..)
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 27. aug. 2022 kl. 12:01 
@The Wise Wolf, not 100% sure on that. I would assume no, but some of those scripts may have been included in the Rei Expansion in English.
The Wise Wolf 27. aug. 2022 kl. 11:32 
Unrelated to the mod directly, but the "Script Collection" japanese expansion was never translated, right? (I guess it was just scripts so a translation would just *be* the expansion)
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 27. aug. 2022 kl. 1:30 
@The Wise Wolf, I'll fix that asap. That explains certain issues we had when playing that script.
The Wise Wolf 26. aug. 2022 kl. 18:25 
@Chronicle
Oh, also, I'm not sure how easy this is of a fix, but base game, scenario 8 has a misprint on the mastermind card.
The Informant should be just a Person (according to Zman games, on bgg forums) as there can't be two Conspiracy Theorists.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 26. aug. 2022 kl. 16:14 
@The Wise Wolf, You're welcome! <3 I am not well-versed in the scripting department, but with that being said; if you ever figure out how to do it - add me on steam, and we'll talk there! :D
The Wise Wolf 26. aug. 2022 kl. 16:03 
@chronicle
Thanks!
I assume you don't play on adding any scripting to this mod?
Something like they keybinds to drop tokens (like the Spirit Island mod has, for exameple) would be really neat, but I know how complicated adding such things is.
As a part of that, if I ever spent the time to figure how to add this, would you be interested?
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 26. aug. 2022 kl. 14:42 
@The Wise Wolf, There would be not, unless I am mistaken; but I do not believe I am. I'll make the adjustment for infinite bags, posthaste. I've just been so used to copy pasting the tokens that when we play - we just ignore the fact that they are limited completely! :p
The Wise Wolf 26. aug. 2022 kl. 14:36 
@Chronicle
Is there ever a situation in the rules where running out of particular type of token matters?
Because I was wondering if having infinite bags for the tokens would be better, since then you can just delete them at the end of the loop.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 25. aug. 2022 kl. 8:20 
@The Wise Wolf, No problem! That would do it. The Extra Cards are also treated as 'Traitor' Cards in the Last Liar Set.
The Wise Wolf 24. aug. 2022 kl. 17:00 
Oh nevermind, I can't ready.
It says to treat the Extra cards as Curse cards for this set. It's not a separate card type.
The Wise Wolf 24. aug. 2022 kl. 16:58 
@Chronicle
Cosmic Evil expansion. See for example Player's Handbook page 3 - "Curse cards".
I think specifically used (only?) in Prime Evil tragedy set.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 24. aug. 2022 kl. 15:20 
@The Wise Wolf, Maybe my memory is failing me but I do not recall any 'Curse' Cards being a part of Tragedy Looper. For which set are you trying to find and use these cards?
The Wise Wolf 24. aug. 2022 kl. 14:57 
Am I blind, or are there no Curse cards?
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 18. maj 2022 kl. 3:34 
@Justin Sane, thank you for your kind words! <3
Justin Sane 17. maj 2022 kl. 21:31 
I adore this game. Thank you for showing it love!
AMoose 5. apr. 2022 kl. 11:02 
No problem! There's only the one included by default anyway.
Chronicle  [ophavsmand] 5. apr. 2022 kl. 5:14 
@AMoose, unfortunately; that has not been officially made yet. For the time being, please add a little note to give yourself and the ones you are playing with a reminder that you are playing with the '+' set.
AMoose 5. apr. 2022 kl. 3:02 
Fantastic mod, thank you so much for this.

Am I missing something with the Augmented scripts.

If they choose to do so, they should should append a “+” to the Tragedy Set’s name on the script cards, for example “Basic Tragedy+”. Adding these rules generally increases the difficulty of a script, so do so judiciously.
In an augmented Tragedy Set, an additional Subplot, Role, and 2 Incidents are available. When creating such a script, choose 2 of the now 8 possible Subplots. The Incidents may be added as any other Incident would be. The new Fragment Role requires some additional accommodation.

Is there anything in this mod as a reference for this, or should I just make a little notecard that explains the Fragment, subplot and incidents?