Project Zomboid

Project Zomboid

Boredom Tweaks
260 Comments
EstusBot Jun 28 @ 12:44pm 
Imagine reading a book for 5 hours straight. I'd be burned out and bored of it.
Commander Thicc Jun 2 @ 10:52am 
I don't think reading skill books should cause boredom. Are you not actively engaging your mind? Skill books should wok like magazines and other boredom relief objects. I do like how transferring items no longer makes you bored though. That's good.
Chadwiko Apr 9 @ 5:09pm 
Love this.
Would it be possible to make it so if you're listening to music on cassette/vinyl (ie from the True Music mod) that you also lose boredom?
RB Jan 2 @ 8:59pm 
@Jon Alright that's understandable! Appreciate the feedback
Jon  [author] Dec 31, 2024 @ 1:44pm 
@Del - Since currently this just looks for the 'action' bar, any task that makes that bar pop up above your head, it probably doesn't currently do anything for the music/radio mods. It might be better for those mods to kinda consider adding it similar to how watching Vanilla TV gives you periodic boredom drops? Or maybe a small constant lowering of boredom to partially counter the increase. Either way it might be easier for those mods to add it themselves since it can be hard to patch another mod if they don't fully expose those functions.

But thanks again everyone who loves it! I'll see about looking into setting things up for b42 if it needs a new file structure. Just not certain if it can be multi-version, I hope it might be like Rimworld in that case, but yeah. I'll post something when I figure it out!
ayden_poh Dec 29, 2024 @ 7:30am 
The best idea in the world, thanks!
FDCN 1654 Dec 28, 2024 @ 6:03am 
can i join in the middle of the game?
RB Dec 26, 2024 @ 10:25am 
Could listening to (car)radio stations affect boredom too?

Probably has been mentioned before, now it has been again, thanks for this neat mod
Viper Dec 24, 2024 @ 6:09pm 
still speaking of b41 here, but after playing for awhile with a character stuck on 50% stress, it appears that the happiness uptick from this mod when you're below 25% unhappiness and not bored is outpaced by the unhappiness tick from the stress. which i think is probably appropriate.
Loot Bukkake Dec 20, 2024 @ 10:36am 
I'm still testing it out to make sure it is actually working, but it seems that all that may be necessary to update this is rebuilding the file structure. Hopefully this helps you bring it to B42!
Wraith Dec 19, 2024 @ 8:54am 
Any plans for 42?
Viper Dec 18, 2024 @ 3:21pm 
alright. i might test it out. I've got a smoker character in a low-loot world and i can't find cancer sticks for him, so his stress is always 50%. So if the stress outpaces the not-bored, it would be a waste of happiness reduction items to nudge it below 25% all the time. I'll see if i can figure it out just from gameplay.
Jon  [author] Dec 18, 2024 @ 3:01pm 
Uhh, it makes sense, but I don't know the actual values cause I didn't realize that was a thing. It PROBABLY shouldn't outpace it, or at least I wouldn't want it to, since it's supposed to be when you are otherwise doing fine and dandy that it makes you happier again.
Viper Dec 18, 2024 @ 7:43am 
@ Jon: do you know if the "not-bored-happiness-uptick (so long as unhappiness is less than 25)" from your mod out-paces or is out-paced by the 50% stress vanilla happiness downtick?

did that question make sense?
Stranger Fengs Dec 7, 2024 @ 11:42am 
Here I was thinking you were just Bored and started making Mod Tweaks..
But they actually help with boredom hehe
Bong Water Dec 6, 2024 @ 3:06am 
this might just be a dumb question, but does this affect the true music mod at all? is that possible? lmao it would be great to be able to give my charater tunes to calm tf down or something
Jon  [author] Oct 21, 2024 @ 4:47pm 
Yeah, it should be fine to add to an existing game!
☣ KeXe5 ☢ Oct 21, 2024 @ 6:56am 
Can i add this mod on an existing SP game, or i have to start over? Constantly getting bored while i keep doing things inside my house seems so unrealistic to me, so i want to give this mod a try...
Adambaked Aug 25, 2024 @ 3:14pm 
legit just cant find the mod in modlist:steambored:
Jamison Aug 8, 2024 @ 3:00am 
Will definitely give this a try. I've been using "Reading is not boring" up until now for skill books, but the overall boredom management is a bit annoying in vanilla.
Monky Jul 27, 2024 @ 12:29am 
nice:WoTB_tank:
Number1NoPickle Jun 27, 2024 @ 1:57pm 
It doesnt work for me :( What am I doing wrong?
Jon  [author] Jun 21, 2024 @ 6:32pm 
Oh, sure! Most of the code anyway is modeled after the vanilla boredom code in the base game, so if you also wanna look at that, I could probably figure out which class I found it all in and you can use a decompiler yourself to look at it all. Though again this mod's code would look awfully similar, so it might not be required :P
RamosRealM Jun 21, 2024 @ 1:12pm 
Hi Jon! Could I use a few snippets of your code for my own traits mod? Im working on a trait that makes it unable to get bored indoors but gets anxious and panicked out side, so you can probably see where this is going...
biNn Jun 15, 2024 @ 12:18am 
This has always been my favorite mod, I love staying at the base organizing things, sewing clothes, eating and more. I don't know why, but I noticed that I'm starting to get bored and sad in a way I never used to... I think maybe there's some incompatibility with a mod I use or it might not be working... Could anyone help? Thanks!!
Saltamontes Jun 5, 2024 @ 1:54am 
So happy with this mod! thank you!

I've always found it incredibly frustrating that you gain boredom when you are rearranging furniture or sorting items etc. It just doesn't make a lick of sense.
R3Ap3R BuNnY Apr 11, 2024 @ 2:16am 
so that how it works. okay, i'll try it again. thanks for the clarification
meolan Apr 10, 2024 @ 10:06am 
Can't sit around all day....
meolan Apr 10, 2024 @ 10:05am 
It took me a bit to figure out how to use it. I was under the impression that doing certain tasks would just reset it, but that's not how it works. Doing the tasks just lowers it so you can sit around for half a day and do two seconds of work and have it all better.

It's actually fairly well balanced, I like it.

Good work author. :)
Jon  [author] Apr 10, 2024 @ 1:56am 
It doesn't remove boredom entirely, so make sure you are managing it still. It's biggest change is to counter some of the boredom gain if you are spending time organizing loot. This doesn't work if you see the moodle to the right of the screen, since I felt that'd be too strong. Boredom is always gaining in the background if you are indoors but doesn't show until it's a quarter full or so.
R3Ap3R BuNnY Apr 9, 2024 @ 9:01pm 
this is not working for me. My character becomes bored and then sad and depressed. Anyone can help me?
Butthole Police Apr 1, 2024 @ 11:10am 
I like the additions, i just feel like its too strong. My character is rarely bored anymore, so I rarely ever get the chance to use the new items! I would love the ability to change the boredom rates in world settings (or mod settings) to make it a bit harder
meolan Mar 29, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
I'm finding that this doesn't seem to be working. Anyone else having issues?
Maveo Mar 17, 2024 @ 6:02pm 
Really enjoyed this mod, it makes my games more interesting.
thecarvalhogamer Mar 8, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
mods que deveriam ser vanilla.
Irmão Feb 17, 2024 @ 4:33pm 
bom
Zefiruz Jan 11, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
Mods que deberían ser vanilla.
randomhan Dec 5, 2023 @ 3:15pm 
its overpowered needs nerfing
Claytonaitor Nov 28, 2023 @ 6:13pm 
This mod is great however it needs tweaking, my character is never bored anymore.
Perhaps instead of decreasing boredom with timed actions, it just does not increase while you are keeping busy?

Also, if not too complicated to do, have repeating the same action (or action type) increase boredom could add to the realism/balance of this mod.

Would be great if these became options in some mod settings
xKilroyx Nov 24, 2023 @ 9:34am 
Great mod! Makes no sense to be bored when You are actively doing something. subbed.
Zing Nov 17, 2023 @ 2:32am 
Thanks for the mod, but I find it a little too powerful. Since installing it, my character experienced boredom only once.
Telos Nov 2, 2023 @ 9:35pm 
@jon Thank you for your mod, it's become a staple on our server :)

Would you be open to adding boredom reduction when around campfires, fireplaces and antique ovens? (I don't know anybody who gets bored around a fire)
Swedin Nov 2, 2023 @ 8:28am 
the best way maintain depression ingame are anti depresants and alcohol. if you found a plastic cup you can turn 1 bottle into 12 shots of happiness by drinking 1/2 from the cup. but i recommed doing that before going to sleep because alcohol makes you tired
Autumn Nov 1, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
@grabnar I mean, that's something that actually happens. The lack of light and time outdoors during winter actually leads to seasonal rises in depression, and it's not like you can just look outside on a cold day and think "yeah, I'm actually way less bored solely because I'm not outside". Stock up on books or something for winter like you would in real life.
Jon  [author] Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:49pm 
That's good to know about, thank you! And yeah, I figured Boredom had to be added for a reason like that, though personally I much prefer systems that reward the player for doing something, instead of penalizing.
jtgibson Oct 12, 2023 @ 9:32am 
@grabnar, @Jon: getClimateManager():getAirMassTemperature() (colon important) polls a cached value that is assigned by the every-ten-minute update in the vanilla game, and is very fast. It will yield the external air temperature regardless of where you are.

Boredom was definitely added to steer gameplay. It's far too easy in games like this to turtle up, which ends up boring the player and making them think the game isn't very good. Same basic principle behind the absurdly fast hunger timer in original roguelike games: push the player into danger faster so that they find the game more entertaining and thrilling.
Condasoft Sep 24, 2023 @ 3:09pm 
I ended up clinically depressed by the amount of time i spent idling at base.
Jon  [author] Sep 13, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
While it makes sense and you have a point, going outside when it's cold doesn't seem like a good idea, I am a bit worried about running a check to figure out the weather/temp every time it calculates the boredom code. It happens very frequently, I'd guess once a game tick really, so something like that if it's not incredibly simple to do, could cause a lot of lag fairly easily. If anything, I think your point is another reason why boredom in general needs a total overhaul, or removal. I feel like it was entirely added as a way to steer gameplay then it was a matter of roleplay elements.
grabnar Sep 11, 2023 @ 11:50pm 
Maybe if it's freezing outside like cryogenic winter then boredom is even slower since you'd rather sit than go outside and risk freezing to death. Had the problem of constantly freezing my character real quick because that feels better than a warm fireplace apparently.
Ashe-StarrDestroyer Sep 4, 2023 @ 11:56am 
It's mods like this that make this game great. Something that was annoying, but too in depth for my dumb brain to articulate or understand. Then this mod explains and solves the issue lol.