it should be compatible with Extended Timeline, shouldn t it

@Brack forgot Emperor Pedro I of Brazil =(

If I'm right... All this mod truly does is add a decision that has the effect of typing 'kill' in the console. As well as cause you lose from 20 to up to 50 prestige. Depending on how old your leader was. And if the first paragraph is right; it probaly activates an event to give you stability in order to counteract your king abdicating. Which the game counts as if your king just died.

Note to all those that want the mod updated. It's really simple to do.
1. open the .mod file of the mod in notepad.
2. look for "supported_version="
3. change the version code in quotation marks to the version of the game you're running.
4. The mod should run on your version of EU IV.

Are you planning on updating this?

@MadMax
Vetranio
Victor Amadeus II of Sardinia
Victor Emmanuel I of Sardinia
Victor Emmanuel III of Italy
Günther Victor, Prince of Schwarzburg
Vukinavanua
Wilhelmina of the Netherlands
William I of the Netherlands
William II of Württemberg
Władysław III Spindleshanks
King Wuling of Zhao
Emperor Xiaozong of Song

@MadMax
Domhnall Spainneach Mac Murrough Caomhanach
Manuel II of Portugal
Marie-Adélaïde, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg
Mary, Queen of Scots
Miangul Abdul Wadud (Badshah Sahib)
Michael VII Doukas
Michael VI Bringas
Milan I of Serbia
Thibaw Min
Muhammad Jamal Khan
Muhammad Mueenuddeen II
Napoleon
Stefan Nemanja
N cont.
Nicholas II of Russia
Nikephoros III Botaneiates
Ibrahim Nooraddeen
Offa of Essex
Pagan Min
Philip V of Spain
Prajadhipok
Puyi
Mohammad Ali Shah Qajar
Qianlong Emperor
Rezā Shāh
Richard II of England
Romulus Augustulus
Saad Al-Salim Al-Sabah
Omar Ali Saifuddien III
Salima Machamba
Shō Tai
Sigeberht of East Anglia
Norodom Sihanouk
Pratap Singh of Idar
Stanisław August Poniatowski
Stefan Vladislav of Serbia
Sulla
Sunjong of Korea
Talal of Jordan
Lucius Tarquinius Superbus
Trần Thái Tông
Rama Varma XV

@MadMax

Farouk of Egypt
Djoumbé Fatima
Faustin Soulouque
Ferdinand I of Austria
Frederick Francis IV, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
Emperor Gaozu of Tang
Emperor Guangzong of Song
G cont.
Gustav IV Adolf of Sweden
Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani
Hassan Nooraddeen II
Heinrich XXVII, Prince Reuss Younger Line
Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor
Lý Chiêu Hoàng
Shivajirao Holkar
Tukojirao Holkar III
Emperor Hui of Jin
Emperor Huizong of Song
Ine of Wessex
Isaac I Komnenos
Isabella II of Spain
Jacques I, Prince of Monaco
Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg
Jigme Singye Wangchuck
Jinseong of Silla
John II Casimir Vasa
Antipope John XXIII
John Balliol
Joseph Bonaparte
Juan Carlos I of Spain
Juliana of the Netherlands
Kaikhusrau Jahan, Begum of Bhopal
John VI Kantakouzenos
Leopold III of Belgium
Leopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany
Louis Philippe I
Ludwig I of Bavaria

@MadMaxBayezid II
Beatrix of the Netherlands
Mansur Ali Khan
Cædwalla of Wessex
Carol II of Romania
Centwine of Wessex
Charles II, Duke of Parma
Charles III of Spain
Charles IV of Spain
Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
Charles X of France
Charles Albert of Sardinia
Charles Emmanuel IV of Sardinia
Charlotte Sophie of Aldenburg
Charlotte, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg
Charles Alexander, Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach
Christina, Queen of Sweden
Coenred of Mercia
Constantine I of Greece
Constantine II of Scotland
Diarmait Mac Murchada
Diocletian
Eadberht of Northumbria
Edward VIII
Eric III of Denmark
Eric of Pomerania

@MadMax False. There are many example of leaders that step down from the throne after a long reign. Examples include important historical figures. Charles V for example, gave up his throne after he became exahusted with ruling during a time of great religious turmoil in the Holy Roman Empire.
The following is a list of rulers who abdicated their thrones for one reason or another: thÆthelred of Mercia
Agustín de Iturbide
Albert II of Belgium
Alexander of Battenberg
Alfonso XIII of Spain
Alfonso III d'Este, Duke of Modena
Amadeo I of Spain
Andronikos II Palaiologos
Artgal mac Cathail

pls update

This mod will ever be updated to 1.8?

anyone knows how make this work on 1.7?

Do you have an external link to download this.
I'm on a MAC and mods using the Steam subscribe system doesn't work.
thanks in advance

I can't disagree with all the commentaries here. It is unrealistic and breaks the gameplay. Historically, a king is a king until his death. There are a very few exemples of leaders stepping away from the throne. Even in France, with Charles VI being called "le Fol", which means he was a fool, who do not fit for the throne, he didn't abdicate.
As for the gameplay, the malus you propose are too weak to be a real painful decision. You should loss -2 stability and legitimacy with this decision. Only prestige loss is very easy to dodge with a war or two. What proposes Ram Man is fine too, but a little bit harder to code, i assume

Should be an event after age 50, your ruler might resign, so long as heir is at least 18 or something. Also annoyance thing isn't realistic at all. Doubt it'd happen often enough to annoy them. In it's state it is definitely a cheat mod.

Overpowered.

I think the prestiege hits by age are good but probably there should be a legitimacy hit if your heir is not of age or there is no heir apparant or the ruler is too young. Legitimacy seems to work as the in-country version of prestiege and both should take hits when it seems like a monarch was "forced" out early.

The advantage of changing your leader is already too good. Such decision should have heavy penalties to be balanced. If you include at least the normal penalties when your king changes that would make it slighlty less OP. (still OP however, this kind of stuff will always be)

I think this is a great idea, but I think its not that realistic. Because a good ruler knows when to step down and let someone younger and more energetic to take things over, but a bad ruler, or indeed any person stupid enough cannot understand 1: being a bad ruler, and 2: why it would be good to abdicate, and 3: that being a ruler means more than just having the largest personal playground. So it should be easy for a ruler with good stats to retire, but the worse stats he has, the harder it should be.
I dont know if this would make the whole mod useless anyway, but just a thought.

As it stands this is a cheat code, prestige loss can be made up in a single good war. Also add a similar hit to legitimacy along with a stab hit, and then you might have an interesting choice.

Good idea

Considering this really just makes the game easier, there should be harsher penalties for abdication. If you're not the emporer and the relations penalties don't apply a drop of 40 prestige is nothing if it means going from a bad ruler to a great one. I REALLY like Ram Man's ideas but I imagine that may be more difficult to accomplish.

I can see a wise and fair ruler to step down for the benefit of the country. But you dont want to use this feature when you got a great leader. You want to use it when a terrible guy is in charge.

If the game describes someone with low skills, hes not a wise and skillfull leader. But he was born and raised to feel like a king. Such a person sticks to the thrown like gum to the boot.

A suggestion: Make it so that the leader skills reduce the costs of the change in leadership. A bad leader will have to be removed by force, while a guy whos smart enough to make room for a better/younger/more talented leader will do it in a peacefull way.

Maybe a stability hit of 3, reduced by 1 for each skillpoint the leader has in Admin&Diplo, but increased by 1 for each point in military?

Some fair but untalented guy with 1-1-0 would be removed easy, while some tyrant style king 0-0-2 wouldnt go without a fight.

Spain in the beginning has no 1/1/1. That would be terrific. Spain has a 0/0/0 instead.

Sounds brilliant, finally being able to get rid of those idiotic 1/1/1 guys/gals (as Spain in the beginning for example, if I remember correctly) :)

Nice. This can be very very powerful. Maybe one of the conditions for the decision would be Stability =3 ? A ruler probably shouldn't do a handover if the country is not fully under control ?

Fun fact: In Japan, It was traditional for a time for the Emperor to abdicate early, to ensure a smooth succession (and not always in favor of his son) , and retire in a buddist temple.
Several of them still effectively ruled from the temple as "Cloistered Emperor", while the nominal Emperor was just a puppet.

Emperor Shirakawa abdicated after 14 years and still ruled 40 more years (and through 3 successive nominal Emperors) from the temple.

It did not always go so smoothly :)

This makes perfect sense. As an example of a notorius abdication - Charles V of Spain, HRE etc. etc. abdicated to his son - Philip II.

Update: small fix so that the lesser partner in a Personal Union cannot abdicate.

Ok Harald, I dont agree but I dont need to :)
Hope this will be successfull

I think the level of the prestige hits is a little harsh.

Update: Prestige loss now age-dependent (see description). Abdicating while being Holy Roman Emperor is now somewhat punished though not impossible. (There's only so much abdication-spamming you can do, and they would die eventually anyway.)

Ram Man: While not for reasons of incompetence (and they wouldn't say so if it was), voluntarily handing the throne to the heir is not unheard of. In recent history it happened in the Netherlands, Belgium, Qatar and with the Pope just last year. Obviously it was more rare when kings held vast power and mostly wasn't as voluntary as it looked, but I'd say there's enough precedent to justify this (if perhaps just barely).

Isnt the whole idea that an undeserving king would step down a little far fetched? All we know is that its exactly the unwanted autocrats that are the last to let go of might.

You should instead rework the thing to portrait a successfull rebellion against a bad ruler. The old ruler is assassinated, the new one takes the throne and you boost the revolt risk in all core provinces a lot for a short time to resemble the potential for a counter-revolution.

I think Kente's idea for it is wise, though having some functionality that it doesn't work with Holy Roman Emperor would also be wise.

Not a very good idea since the Holy Roman Emperor can then spam the button to quickly rack up imperial authority and unify the empire...especially for some nations like Saxony that never runs out of heir.

tennesseeball stronk

i suppose it's not ironman compatible?

Very handy mod. Keep it on!

nice idea, i will give a try. Here my suggestion: you should increase the loss of prestige to -50 until the old king is younger than a age limit (maybe 60), when the king is older than the age limit teh prestige loss can be -20. That's because an old man can abdicated for his son, but a young man he will do only if he is forced

It seems fine for me.

Well maybe a 100 is a bit over the top, but a minus 20 hit is a very low hit and, to me is allways a nobrainer too get a new king if the old one is getting old or just bad.

I could move to 30 or maybe as much as 40, but that's as high as I'm willing to go. 100 seems like far too much.

I think the penalty should be higher than -20 prestige, maybe a 100, but i like the idea of this mod

Brilliant idea my friend. I have to say, I'm not suprised to hear its your first mode because I have seen a lot of great mods that they are first :) I wish you continued success

Update: added 20 Prestige loss.

PsychoBen-Kun: This is my first EU4 mod, so these things sound a bit too complex for me right now. I particularly wouldn't know how to keep the old kings name in memory to dig out later.

I'd add a stability hit, for balancing purposes. Getting rid of a 0/0/1 monarch is well worth it.

That could be of useful

I dont know how hard this would be to implement but what about a random event when the previous king attempts to regain control of the throne or alternatively if your in a war with another super power then the previous king returns as a general, or even takes control of the throne for the duration of the war (like Murad II of The Ottomans) , you could also try to implement forced abdication events.

Would be cool, since it's too easy decision.

Hm, I have been considering adding a small (20 or so) Prestige loss for that, as other more selfish kings think it's stupid and traditional-minded people think you have a duty to stay until you die. How about that?