Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Kievan Rus fix
372 Comments
Zugidor  [author] Aug 19 @ 2:15pm 
@Odin
searching kyivan rus still gives you kievan rus as the top hit and there are more kievan rus mentions than kyivan https://iili.io/FyJzVPS.png my point is that both are correct but kievan rus is simply more common and well established in historiography. At the same time, "Kyiv" is better established today as the English exonym of the city's name so I (and Paradox) use "Kyiv" for the barony, county, duchy, and kingdom titles. For the sake of simplicity, I will stick with the English Wikipedia's naming convention, so if they change their page to "Kyivan Rus", I'll update this mod accordingly.
Odin Aug 19 @ 2:02pm 
@Zugidor if you intentially text in search bar Kievan Rus obviously you'll get that lol. Check on Wikipedia there are two options. "
Kievan Rus',[a] also known as Kyivan Rus',[6][7] was the first East Slavic state and later an amalgam of principalities[8] in Eastern Europe from the late 9th to the mid-13th century.[9][10]"
I'm not saying Kievan isn't correct in English, but Kyivan is historically correct transliteration and if there's two option, I recommend using Kyivan for historical accuracy. Because Kievan Rus's capitol was Kyiv that's why it has to be Kyivan. Otherwise the name loses logic and meaning
Zugidor  [author] Aug 15 @ 2:46pm 
@Odin
https://iili.io/Fb34kiP.png
https://iili.io/Fb34eWB.png
This is why this mod uses "Kyiv" and "Kievan Rus"
Odin Aug 15 @ 2:39pm 
Kiev should be Kyiv because in the honour of Kyi knyaz of Polians tribe the city was founded! The city name literally doezn't match founder's name. That's why also Kyivan Rus is only correct option
Viktector Aug 13 @ 7:57am 
Спорно переводить рыцарей как богатырей, так как это былинный термин. Логичнее взять действительно возникающий в летописях и равнозначный понятию "рыцарь" термин "муж" (от слова мужчина) или "княж муж" (мужчина князя, человек князя)
Барбосян Jun 25 @ 12:16pm 
problems with russian localisation
Zugidor  [author] Jun 6 @ 2:54am 
syms2015
I don't know, I haven't tested it, there could be incompatibilities since both mods are trying to do similar things
syms2015 Jun 5 @ 8:55pm 
Is this mod compatible with the "Baptism of Rus" mod?
kudashkins May 26 @ 11:33pm 
thanks! love ya
Zugidor  [author] May 23 @ 9:25am 
@kudashkins
Thanks for the suggestion, just updated the mod to be compatible with Culture Expanded, now all east slavic cultures (severian, ilmenian, volhynian, etc) have knyaz titles and such, same as rus'.
kudashkins May 22 @ 6:30am 
BTW

Need comptach for Culture Expanded. Cause they hav cultures as Vladimirian and Polost, diverget from Rus', so their titles are not Knyaz or smth like that, they have titles like duke and kings.
kudashkins May 22 @ 6:21am 
В крусаках в принципе если и можно рассчитывать на полную историчность - это надо нереально упороться, а этот мод неплохая отдушина и чувачок хоть что-то сделал, мне лично хватило и работы с титулуами, хотя например очевидно, что тот же Иван Грозный вполне именовался в переписках как "Рекс", т.е. королем называть внутри игры вполне можно, но мне охота "князь", хотя если задуматься, это всё одно дрочево, как и "император" и "кайзер".
kudashkins May 22 @ 6:21am 
@Hikki Sadrot это понятно всем, начнем с того, что не было никаких таких империй на территории Руси - если хочется полной историчности, надо просто снести имперские титулы, причем не только в этом регионе.

А за духоту такую тебя надо отправить на СВО копать ногтями окоп, блевать уже тянет, это как мусульмане приходят под мод про арабов и начинают ныть, что в игре пророк Мухамед есть, видите ли очень оскрблены они.
Hikki Sadrot May 15 @ 4:02pm 
Название "Киевская Русь" неправильно настолько же, насколько неправильно название "Россия". Киевская Русь - историографический термин, отражающий период Российской, Белорусской и Украинской истории, когда столицей Руси был Киев. Такие же термины имеются для Новгородской и Владимирской Руси. Само же государство(судя по мирному договору с Византией) называлось "Русь". А так, во всем остальном мод прекрасен, ибо единая культура в 867 году и католическое слово "король" и христианское слово "царь" неправильны.
Zugidor  [author] May 1 @ 2:14pm 
updated
Fettered Soul | RINH XX May 1 @ 10:17am 
upd pls
Zugidor  [author] Apr 20 @ 3:41pm 
@Damianuus
Someone will have to make a compatch mod to resolve the mod conflict.
Damienos_ Apr 20 @ 12:42pm 
together with historical empires mod, west slavia empire appears as a bug in pommerania.
Wildman John Apr 11 @ 8:44am 
No Mikey, it shouldn't.
Mikey Mar 14 @ 8:04am 
Should be Kyivan not Kievan.
Zugidor  [author] Mar 10 @ 6:20am 
idk, I never used RICE (or play ck3 anymore) I just maintain the mods I've already published. Maybe someone else will make a compatch.
Ser_hiRo Mar 10 @ 5:07am 
Will there be a compatch for the new version of RICE?
MaximusFrankius Feb 25 @ 9:56am 
Any chance that you can also cover the Polish lands as well?
Shelldar Feb 10 @ 9:36am 
Thank you from Ukraine
TheLoneWanderer Feb 10 @ 7:43am 
FYI - when using Historic Invasions and the 867 bookmark while using this mod, the "Rurik" invasion event will not function as intended. It's not game breaking, just something to be aware of. The change in Titles results in Rurik not having the proper claim.
irlVector Jan 14 @ 5:17pm 
I see, thanks for the clarification! Liked!
Zugidor  [author] Jan 14 @ 1:29pm 
This is an older mod I made soon after CK3 launched and over 3 years before Baptism of Rus was made. I no longer play CK3 but maintain this mod as many subscribers like and use it. Baptism has more content and makes more use of the newer game features, but otherwise has pretty much the same mission as this mod, to fix the awful vanilla Rus in the game. You can think of Baptism as like a bigger and newer version of this mod or as a successor mod of sorts. People who think Baptism does too much might prefer the smaller/simpler scope of this or my other lite Rus mods.
irlVector Jan 14 @ 12:19pm 
Hello, what is the difference between this and the "Baptism of Rus" mod?
Ser_hiRo Jan 13 @ 9:48pm 
@Gidaka I saw that this topic was raised on the paradox forum a few years ago, but it was actively attacked by Russians with negative feedback. Unfortunately, the voice of reason was ignored by the developers due to the "political nature of the topic".
Gidaka Dec 25, 2024 @ 2:49am 
For your information, Kievan Rus' comes from the center which has the russian version Kiev, and Kyivan Rus' comes from the historically correct name Kyiv

You wrote everything correctly regarding Prince/Principality and Knyaz/Knyazhestvo, but in your mod you already use the titles that were in Rus' with their local names, so it is better that all the titles are replaced and not some selectively

By the way, this is the best mod for Kyivan Rus' that corrects historical errors, I don't understand why the game developers can't do this
Zugidor  [author] Dec 25, 2024 @ 2:34am 
@Gidaka
This is a primarily English-language mod, so I use Prince instead of Knyaz because Prince/Principality is the English translation of Knyaz/Knyazhestvo.
I use Kievan because that's what Wikipedia, Britannica, and other encyclopedias use. If you would prefer Kyivan, then please check out my other mod, Kyivan Rus Rename: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3302258522
Gidaka Dec 25, 2024 @ 2:28am 
In Update 1.5.1: finally fixed the error and changed the English name Kiev to Kyiv
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1158310/view/3095667402103590561

So why do you incorrectly use Kievan Rus' instead of Kyivan Rus' in this mod?

Also why didn't you replace the titles Prince instead of Knyaz? (Knyaz => Grand Knyaz)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_of_the_Rurikids
Tortellobello45 Dec 6, 2024 @ 11:48pm 
This mod seems to be incompatible with CE and RICE, sadly. It causes every historical character to have strange names like ruler_administrative_byzantine_empire_title_5
Zugidor  [author] Nov 20, 2024 @ 2:35am 
@Hieron
I made an alternative mod for that, which just uses Rus' for the title: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3302259738
Hieron Nov 19, 2024 @ 9:55pm 
All good stuff, the only issue I have is with 'Kievan'. Historicallyit is fitting, but we are playing all sorts of alternative scenarios in this game, and Kiev being the centre of the Rus is not necessarily true for those.
Zugidor  [author] Nov 16, 2024 @ 7:42am 
English, French, Spanish, German, Russian languages supported
Zugidor  [author] Nov 16, 2024 @ 7:41am 
Updated: localizations should be fixed for all languages now
florenciacosimo Nov 11, 2024 @ 9:04am 
Does this mod have a Spanish translation?
Zugidor  [author] Oct 31, 2024 @ 7:32am 
@Kraken
I don't know, I never used RICE myself but I tried to keep it compatible with most non-overhaul mods. Give it a try, but I can't guarantee compatibility.
Kraken Oct 31, 2024 @ 7:02am 
Hi! Is the mod compatible with RICE?
Zugidor  [author] Oct 27, 2024 @ 12:35pm 
Updated for 1.13, thank you for your patience
As always, please let me know about any bugs or issues and I will try my best to update with a fix
NerazarPC Sep 25, 2024 @ 10:24am 
Very good mod! I just have the issue that with the new patch, my custom landless character has a tooltip with unlanded_lord_rus [Name] in it and several Rus related decisions are also just tooltips and/or empty / broken! I hope you find the time to update for the latest patch. :) Couldn't play CK3 without.
Roland Sep 20, 2024 @ 4:42pm 
Kyivan Rus’
Zugidor  [author] Aug 16, 2024 @ 1:47am 
@KYR_MAN
I made a mod that uses Kyivan Rus it may be what you're looking for.
KYR_MAN Aug 15, 2024 @ 7:26pm 
Kyivan Rus*
Zugidor  [author] Aug 15, 2024 @ 8:27am 
Mod updated, fixed Rus count, baron, and tribal duchies naming (thanks for the report Popee). Added a note to the description that this mod isn't compatible with mods that edit the same flavorization/localization, like More Provinces Expanded. I tried different mod orders with MPE and either way they conflicted and wouldn't play nice, probably requires a specific compatch.
Popee the Clown Aug 15, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Okay found the mod that's causing the issues plaguing me: More Provinces Expanded. Haven't really looked into that mod yet to determine why, but it's this mod that turns all the feudal principalities back into duchies. I'm gonna dig into it in a bit, BUT strangely enough, it also fixes all the new issues I've had in the 867 start. Turns all the chiefdoms into principalities, gives counts their correct title, etc.
Popee the Clown Aug 15, 2024 @ 4:06am 
So things got a bit more fucked up lol

I disabled all mods and only had KRF. That worked and I was able to get principalities over duchies, all the rulers had their appropriate title, etc. at the 1066 start. But for some reasons, all the county became counts instead of Namestnik :(((

I went into the 867 start at tribal and for some reason, a few of them were Chiefdoms/High Chiefdoms >.< though a few of them were also principalities/their correct titles. I've tried resubbing and that hasn't worked, I'm now on the phase of reinstalling the game entirely/deleting my mod folder.

This only seems to be having an issue on principalities, kingdoms/grand principalities are working fine.

Anyways, I'm gonna keep trying. This isn't that big big of an issue, but is kinda weird and I have no idea where the conflicts may be lol. Could it potentially be RICE, EPE, or CFP?
Zugidor  [author] Aug 15, 2024 @ 3:55am 
It only happens when you transition from tribal to feudal? The fuedal rulers in 1066 are fine? And it only affects duchies/principalities and not kingdoms/grand principalities? I honestly have no idea how or why that could happen. Try unsubscribing and resubscribing to this mod, and try with all other mods off, if it still happens, I would try validating the game files through steam, and if none of those work, reinstall the game.
Popee the Clown Aug 15, 2024 @ 2:01am 
It might very well be a mod conflict, but I'm not sure which... none of the mods I have edit the localization for culture titles and I also have KRF at the bottom of my load order so theoretically anything this mod have should overwrite whatever conflict there may be. Idk I'm going insane