I have integrated this mod into my fork: Ethics and Civics Alternative - FunEFork

since Petruxa's Ethics and Civics was discontinued, will you update this mod for the Classic version?

Cool thanks!

@LordOfLA I'm waiting to hear back from Petruxa on what he will be doing with ECA. But feel free to update for your own fork.

Hi Relytor. Do you plan to update this for 3.0 or I can go ahead and update it based on my Redux fork of Ethics and Civics Alternative?

This breaks rulers and specialists completely right now

A very quick look shows that it doesn't work with ethics and civics classic, which is a shame, since this (+ Empire United) would be perfect otherwise. Might just make a personal patch for it.

This mod is (partially) broken with 2.8. Multiple civics are showing traits with missing localisations namely "Ascended Meritocracy" and "Wasteful Consumerism":
mod_planet_pops_food_upkeep_mult, mod_pop_category_rulers_produces_mult, mod_pop_category_specialists_produces_mult.

Does this work with ethics and civics classic?[x2]
Thank you

Does it work with 2.8?

I've noticed a bug. when you have the feudal society civic and attempt to intergrate a vassal the decreased wait time causes the wait time to become infinite and for the player to start gaining 1k influence monthly. any fixes or patches for this?

Side note, I think this needs a patch with UI overhaul dynamic.

Does this work with ethics and civics classic?

Cyber Democracy seems to be limited to just Direct Democracy, instead of being available to both Direct and Indirect Democracy.

Interesting mod. How about compatibility? I got the error to start with a single citizen on my starting planet.

Compatible with Stefan's Perfectly Balanced Mod? Thanks

Can this mod be used for multiplayer?

... preferably by just adding an extra job to each government building and slotting the new elite in there.

would it be possible to unlock the "government type" civics in game, for hybrid regimes? So as to spend a government-type slot in having government buildings generating both nobles and philosophers, or both high-priests and science directors?

@LordOfLA I use a local patch that I'm getting ready to release publicly.

So, this, unity and proliferation all override a decent chunk of expanded pops. Is this intended or do you integrate more with a local patch?

@Black Goat None of the new governments added would get the special administrators, so it wouldn't really make sense. It shouldn't "break" it, but you'd be less likely to get the special administrators.

Thanks! I didn't see any kind of issues after loading it.

@Dalthius Yes, you may end up with some unemployed rulers for a while, but other than that it is safe to activate mid-game

Is it "safe" to activate this mid game?

Updated to 2.7.3 and latest version of Ethics and Civics Alternative

@whitespacekilla I'm away from my computer until tomorrow. But my mod is supposed to have ethic_rebuild_governments.txt as blank file, overwriting the original mod. Tomorrow I'll check and make sure it wasn't deleted by accident. This mod has to come after Ethics and Civics Alt to work correctly.

Correction, you would need to define them in a file that comes after "ethic_rebuild_governments.txt" in alpha sort. Sorry.

Noticed something odd while generating a patch for my collection, your mod defines but fails to override any of ethics and civics alternatives' governments. This is because ethics and civics alternatives defines them all in "ethic_rebuild_governments.txt" and you define your alternatives in 00_governments.txt. Since all these ids are LIOS (last in, only served after alpha sort) load order is not enough. You would need to define these governments in a file that comes after 00_governments in alpha sorting (like zzz_governments). Maybe this was intentional but I can't imagine you intentionally defined a bunch of conflicts with the base mod to have them not be applied.

So I was trying to figure out why I couldn't take the cyber democracy civic as an indirect democracy and this mod apparently changes the cyber democracy civic so that it can only be used with direct democracy.

Great! Thank you for the response! Wanted to double check before I did such.

Keep up the great work!

@Magus Any government that you wanted to get those special administrators, you would need to add to the triggers, yes. If you wanted the tooltip to show the administrators, you would also need to change the localisation file.

Quick question!

If I were to patch another mod's governments into this, from what I understand of the mod files, I'd just need to add said mod's governments to the z_administrator_triggers under the right categories for their ethics, correct?

@tsaieric2000 yes

Is this save compatible?

@relytor Consider updating your mod so that the planet_pop_assemblers job uses alloys instead of minerals. That way it is consistent with vanilla and the current robot balance.

@relytor Anyways, enabling it in your mod fixed problem. Thx for reply

@PsychoBelka I only have it disabled because @petruxa had it disabled in the base mod. I only changed civics that affected administrators in this mod.

@relytor Good day, im having compatibility problem between this mod and "Storypack: The Nyblax and the Collector". When you kill Collector (aka Thanos) his planet should create a new empire with predetermined civics, but because your mod disables that civic game just freezes. The civic is "civic_cutthroat_politics". I manually edited your mod to allow civic and it worked. If anything can be done from your side (i.e. Patch) i would really appreciate it.

@明明灭灭 You need the Ethics and Civics Alternative patch for the UI mod you are using. Put the patch after this mod in the mod list.

It looks good, but after using this mod, there seems to be a problem with my ui. When creating a country page, some pages become small windows, and I cannot scroll the page

@relytor: Ignore me, turns out that there is and I was already subscribed to it (*facepalm*)

@jht_89 EUTaB is one I haven't ever looked at, so I could only guess. As long as it doesn't overwrite the vanilla buildings and/or jobs, though, it should be okay.

@relytor: While I'm thinking about compatibility patches, do you know if EaCA/Empire Governance would have any compatibility issues with EUTaB (other than there not be any unique tech or building for the added ethics?

@relytor: excellent, thanks :)

@jht_89 I just finished the Ethics and Civics Alt + Expanded Traits, Civics, Pops, and More mods. I'm getting ready to release a much larger mod pack. Ecology mod is one that I plan on integrating into the mod pack, so I'll start by doing a pathc just for Ethics Alt and this.

@relytor: I'm sorry to chase this as I know you've got a lot of mods that you're juggling, but do you have a vague idea when you might be able to put together the Eco Mod compatibility patch?

It is. I'll have to double check the definition file to make sure it updated correctly, but it will work correctly with 2.6.2

Is this 2.6 compatible? Shows up as 2.5 in my modlist even after a flush and redownload

@relytor: Do you have a rough idea one when you might be release the Eco Mod patch for EaCA?

Would you also be considering a patch for Eco Mod and Empire United?