good god the DMR is insanely strong

If it does, it's an exploit.

With zero aim time, does combining this with something like simple side arms mean you can swap between weapons for infinite pew pew pew?

@Bungee Gum
It requires a research project that's in VWE.

Thanks for the great mod series! Just FYI this mod says updated to 1.5 in the tag, but the image still labeled 1.4

Ummmm... Why is this the only Vanilla Weapons Expanded Add-on that's dependant on original Vanilla Weapons Expanded instead of the framework?

@turkler
Ye, reported that, asked to remove.

@Neitronus ce player here, for some reason the CE patch for this mod also renames the guns here, unlike every other ce ve patch.

@Oskar Potocki
Is there any way to trace it? I'm pretty sure that the only mod that patches this mod is CE.

They don't. Perhaps you have some mod that changes them?

Why weapon names ingame differ from the ones in this mod's description?

Feel like this one needs some new addons, maybe some crossovers with other newer VE weapon mods like bullpup gauss rifles or charge variants

I think the infographic on the PDW is wrong... they have the same base damage as the heavy smg, 12, instead of 4. Might be useful to add that to the changelog :)

"Does this mod really require VE Weapons? They are both only XML and textures, can it be used on it's own? With VE Framework?"

Plus!

Me: *Sees the famas* aUEgh AErgh frEnCH Ewww

Does this mod really require VE Weapons? They are both only XML and textures, can it be used on it's own? With VE Framework?

Does this mod and the other vanilla weapons mods have compatibility with Rimmu Nation² - Weapons mod?

HAYO looks like the Bullpup-DMR doesnt register as a heavy weapon, where the standard DRM does. minor tweek needed. the boys love their DMRs <3

FINALY a mod that adds the P90 PDW
been looking for ages

Is it just me or do these weapons look incredibly strong?
Especially the pistol and rifle.

I don't know where to report this, but the research for "Quick Draw" keep showing up even with this mod disabled, even though it adds nothing (?)

@UltramarineMewtwo It also looks like the GM6 Lynx

how to use automatic pistol with shield or it can't? or any firearm weapon in expand can use with shield?

Ah, that's fine. Though it does look a lot like the QBU-88.

You won't be in luck, it's custom made for the sake of the mod, not an actual real life gun, sorry!

Could you help with identifying the bullpup DMR? I'm trying to find the actual name of the weapon, but googling for it doesn't help that much.

To clear up confusion I'm talking about the bullpup DMR's name, where it came from, etc.

I'm a bit confused; does it already come in CE, or is it just built in compatibility? My reading comprehension is shit at the moment.

Hello, can you add Industrial Gun tag to P90 and Bullpup DMR?

Automatic pistol as better stats than PDW ? LOOOOOL
Bullpup rifle range ? omg joke right ?

Also thinking stun grenades could inflict a hearing/vision/movement penalty that lasts longer, if spamming them is still an issue. They'd be more about tossing one into a group for a lasting debuff. They would be more useful in coordinated assaults and spamming would serve no purpose.

Thanks for reading keep up the great work!

Hi Oskar/team!

Can I suggest adding stun grenades to the quickdraw package?

I love the new changes with long cooldown that make them non-spammable, but id love to use them to breach and clear rooms with the rest of the quick draw set. Lot of opportunities t odo so with the new large scale ruins your mods and the expansions add.

In order to use them as part of the "quick-draw/high-speed low drag tier one operator slaying bodies" set, pawns need to be able to toss them the moment a door opens or a wall is breached to capitalize on the element of surprise. Would really reinforce the quickdraw playstlye.

Maybe make this "no aim time" only true for use-limited grenade belts in general, or give the stun grenade toss an extra second on cooldown?

Always thought long aim times for grenades were silly anyways..

Also, a couple quickdraw charge weapons would be so cool!

You'll want to recheck the weapon tags, I have a tribal chief armed with a bullpup.

Against him, there is a Space Pirate armed with a derringer from your other mod, Frontier. Non sensical too.

why there is a research item that is called "QuickDraw" but it doesnt unlock anything when researched?

Oskar, u da best <3

I was wrong, this doesn't remove EMP grenades, it was just patch that added EMP when you research the Microelectronics....ants ate my brainz

What the fuck mate

1.3 update please, thank you!

No it doesn't.

this mod removes EMP grenades

thanks

Is possible.

is possible to do a mod that cover al weapon in quickdraw?

You don’t need to, there is no code difference between 1.1 and 1.2 versions of this mod.

seems don’t have folder of 1.2, Please check

I think DMR rifle shoukd be buff rpm and nerf accuracy. Because it's quick draw?
For now ,I can't find a reason to make DMR instead of Marksman rifle.

I know that the autopistol in wiki is way worse then the quickdraw auto pistol, which i am glad considering the work and tech for the quickdraw one.

if the armor pen on wiki is right for vanilla then the Quickdraw weapons are a tiny bit better over all in that way, which is fine, it is a later tech.

you know what it probably was, just bad luck on my RNG, of hits and situation.

if anything, my math stats that the quick draw compared to wiki weapons of similar use, are slightly better in raw #, thought the PDW is basily the same as the heavy smg in all but 0.10 time total.
Which is all fine, I just must of had bad RNG.

I am looking at the wiki here to compare, something must be off on the wiki, that or Its how i move pawns in combat that affects this. Something the Numbers cant speak of here.

Either way, when looking at the wiki of these to others, in math theory you are correct.

I just am weird in how i feel about them I guess. Sorry.

Fun fact: Weapon stats are pretty much Exactly the same as vanilla counterparts, with the only difference being warmup swapped to cool down.

I know this might sound weird but after playing a good amount in a game, i got the feeling these were only good for the first round or two of combat, but then did worse then Vanilla weapsons after that in longer fights.
All the while feeling way more research grinding, and work to get going.

I guess what I am asking is why really use these if the first burst fire doesnt down the enemy?
and in end game that is going to happen often.

I guess i just dont understand the trade off or benefits well enough.

not sure if this is intended, but the bullpup rifle has 31 range instead of 22.9