Oxygen Not Included

Oxygen Not Included

[Deprecated] Traits Reworked
41 Comments
Dakon Aug 10, 2023 @ 3:24pm 
I just returned to the game after 3 years. So sad to see this mod getting left outdated.
It used to be one of the must have balance mods.
Самодѣр̆жецъ Jul 1, 2023 @ 7:29am 
update please
Tristan_Potato Feb 21, 2023 @ 4:54am 
WRENCH
Tristan_Potato Feb 21, 2023 @ 4:53am 
WRENCH
Bartender Tails Jun 10, 2022 @ 12:29am 
*More sad noises*
Pseudonym Apr 22, 2022 @ 5:13pm 
Idea: Make bottomless stomach able to eat rot piles. Rot pile quality is always grisly, no matter what the former food was.
tonimark Jan 6, 2022 @ 11:59am 
UPDATE PLEASE
Cobalius Dec 22, 2021 @ 7:52am 
pls update
Orsmorf Oct 11, 2021 @ 3:09am 
just loaded this mod for some idea i had in testing. found out it's not working atm.
SADGE
Splakra Sep 8, 2021 @ 1:39am 
First up
This mod looks amazing
Unfortunately the big merge broke it (Even with the mod updater installed)
I know you are probably very busy and I´m very thankfull for you updating the other mods
I still would like to request you updating this one next
Have a great day ^^
sharkovilya27 May 22, 2021 @ 3:09pm 
Anemic -3 instead -5
qqqbbb Jan 2, 2021 @ 10:49am 
The first thing you should have fixed is anemic. It's the worst .
Enlonwhite Dec 8, 2020 @ 12:40pm 
Alot of these changes are in the Right direction, but are either too much, or too good a change.
404 May 12, 2020 @ 10:17am 
Will there be more updates to this mod?
Shame Apr 26, 2020 @ 2:56am 
I think there is bug compatibility with this and having duplicants auto-assigned to med bays with the mod that makes them go to it automatically, where if they have lower than average max health (70) and they are hurt, they will not go to med bay under any circumstance. Either that, or you can't assign them to med bays period, which is quite bad.
Teirdalin Mar 9, 2020 @ 6:32pm 
SirBubbleGum that has to be one of the most pretentious comments to a mod I've ever read, but yeah that does seem to be a bit of a stretch, maybe pacifist could have something more related to conflict with creatures or flee more easily.
Forlorn Mar 5, 2020 @ 6:27am 
Awesome mod, fixes a lot of problems with the trait system, the only two traits I find myself unable to choose are allergies and trypophobia (the one that prevents digging). These two traits are just so bad I cannot justify ever picking them (except allergies on maps without bristle blossoms).

Possible buffs or adjustments for these two?
SirBubbleGum Feb 25, 2020 @ 12:33am 
"actual non selective pacifism implies veganism"
Nope.
Veganism isn't just as black and white as "Stop killing animals for food"
Yes a lot, if not most, vegans would say that's their motive to become vegan but I think at it's core it's more about the conditions the animals are bred, raised and slaughtered and less with the actual killing of the animals. If it was, vegans would despise carnivorous animals. Also, I've heard lots of vegans say they don't like people "enjoying the fruits when the blood is on someone elses hands" but my dupe sure kill their own prey.
So no, "actual non selective pacifism implies veganism" is false.
The Deer Feb 20, 2020 @ 9:36pm 
"pacifist doesn't mean vegan"
You're right, but actual non selective pacifism implies veganism. Is the slaughter of animals not violence? Eating meat is supporting the very thing a pacifist thinks is unjustified.

A selective pacifist that only thinks that towards humans, you might be right. But selective pacifism is a flimsy notion in of itself.
Coin786 Feb 7, 2020 @ 3:58pm 
pacifist dosent mean vegan please fix also divers lungs making you less athletic makes 0 sense bottomless stomach would mean you have less athletics because you eat more so you become fatter also you can fart in space you know that right and being squeamish dosent mean you get hurt easier it just means you cant stand to look at wounds also gastrophobia is retarded they wouldnt know that its was made in a gas range unless they were looking at it while it was being made
akontio Jan 28, 2020 @ 5:23pm 
@Sentry Ward

1. Does not mean a vegan != pacifist aswell.
2/4. If they breathe LESS air they probably won't be as athletic, similar goes for mouth breather, vice versa. (To be fair though they should be renamed to something like "light breather" and "heavy breather")
3. I agree, Narcoleptic changes doesn't make sense.
Sentry Ward Dec 5, 2019 @ 12:22pm 
Some feedback:
+1 Pacifist != Vegan
+1 Divers Lungs decreasing doesn't make any sense
+1 Narcoleptic ignoring sleep when carrying - doesn't make sense too :(

Mouth Breather is now Positive trait :)
Plasma_spy-c Dec 3, 2019 @ 4:14am 
why not add trait:
VEGAN-
-cannot eat meat
+morale bonus when eating tofu.......................
DarkLinkX5 Nov 29, 2019 @ 5:08am 
fish is meat but whatevs
Acecool Nov 28, 2019 @ 2:25pm 
Because it makes so much sense that you are less athletic with divers lungs.
Investa Nov 6, 2019 @ 9:28am 
I like the idea of balancing some traits, but the changes you made don't make a lot of sense. Mouth breather giving athletics can make some sense, cause they breath harder? Divers Lungs decreasing doesn't make any sense though. Bottomless Stomach adding makes some sense, but narcoleptic ignoring sleep when carrying stuff is directly counter to what narcolepsy does.

Again, I like the idea of balancing things out to make everything usable or make good traits less good, I just think it should be done with logic in mind as ONI game-play is based firmly in reality as far as physics and stuff goes. So logical inconsistencies is immersion breaking, you could say.
Fenrir Nov 5, 2019 @ 7:18am 
-Fixes a bug in the stock game where Duplicants who eat in lit areas waste 15% of the calories eaten.
Could you provide this as an single mod?
Meat Man (Alfons) Nov 4, 2019 @ 11:22am 
Flatuent would be miles better if they only let their gas when using a toilet. So they won't just go by your farm and let out a single gram worth of gas and ruin some crops day
mmmihkel Nov 4, 2019 @ 6:18am 
Have agree with @Umbra. Oxygen isn't a problem, in fact the overflow of it is a problem in my current colony - it's as a side waste of hydrogen for me.

In my opinion Diver's Lunges should affect how long dupe can hold breath (loose the oxygen line in unbreathable enviroment).

Gastrphobia in your mod is weird ... it's not a phobia anymore, seems more like an allergy.

Pacifist is turned into vegetarian ... imo looses it's idea. Better add a new trait then.
宇宙妹控 Nov 4, 2019 @ 4:50am 
Very interesting mod, but there are many negative attributes
Yodarkore Nov 4, 2019 @ 12:45am 
@Stephen: This. PhailRaptor put a word on what i was thinking about your version of diver's lungs. Crippling ahtletic skills is a dupe killer. Have you ever rolled an anemic dupe in vanilla just for the sake of testing? Its a painfully slow dupe therefore useless.
PhailRaptor Nov 3, 2019 @ 9:16pm 
@Stephen -- I think you misunderstand. Diver's Lungs is not "superior" (hint -- it's not) because of the benefit it provides. It's value is in the fact that it's consistently good (if weak) no matter what other conditions are present. Sure, when looking for a specific Dupe to fill a specific base role, it's sub-par. But if you just need a body, Diver's Lungs is never a bad option. It's also iuseful for your 3 starting Dupes, while you're still in the process of setting up your early, quick, and dirty O2 supply. The fact is that it's a small value, that is pretty much irrelevant outside that very early game setup period. Like, by cycle 3 when you're getting your 4th Dupe, the period of maximal benefit is over.

In exchange for this, you've crippled the top speed of any Dupe with that trait by 20%. So I guess it's only good for a dedicated Chef who has all their ingredients delivered for them, ensuring they don't have to actually move anywhere once they get into the kitchen.
Zargachi Nov 3, 2019 @ 8:33pm 
the people who think this, don't know how to manage their oxygen suply, the "balance" you made on the traits mostly don't have logic, your "balance" is more to "un-balance to make game harder"
Stephen  [author] Nov 3, 2019 @ 8:12pm 
-2 on Diver's Lungs is for game balance purposes - many players believe that Diver's Lungs is significantly better than the other positive traits, so this change aims to give it a small downside.
Zargachi Nov 3, 2019 @ 5:49pm 
what is the logic behind a person with Diver's Lung have LESS athletical capacity??? various maratonists train under water to have more breathing during the maraton, your debuff on this trait don't makes any sense.
Lily Nov 3, 2019 @ 10:32am 
yodakore i don't know how you've been playing the game but i never took any traits basides like 3 of them because the vanilla traits are either so intensely nothing or so intensely terrible, these new traits to me with 2 exceptions (gastrophibic pacifist) don't do this and i thus think this mod does a good job at balancing these traits
Yodarkore Nov 3, 2019 @ 8:37am 
Uh i dont find the new traits being neither useful nor fun... The idea of the mod is good... but nerfing all traits beside mouth breather is not good... And -2 athletics to diver lungs is the thing that prevented me to test that mod. You should make another version with improved positive traits (no need being cheaty there)... ;)
Oniwabanshu Nov 2, 2019 @ 11:36pm 
I had no idea of this:
"Fixes a bug in the stock game where Duplicants who eat in lit areas waste 15% of the calories eaten."

Though, everything else made me lose interest.
PhailRaptor Nov 2, 2019 @ 9:14pm 
I don't understand the thinking on giving Diver's Lungs a negative Athletics score. The real life concept of "having a diver's lungs" is that you are able to hold your breath for a really long time, which suggests that overall the body in question is just a little bit better at running on less oxygen than the average.

Sure, when doing long duration breath holds, you go out of your way to move as little as possible in order to consume as little oxygen as possible. But... that's not related.
Skyrunner  [author] Nov 2, 2019 @ 8:04pm 
Fantastic. Makes a lot of the awful drawbacks less awful, and makes the optimal drawbacks less optimal. A must-have for any avid ONI player.