Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Bloodline of Jesus
57 Comments
Spaceracer Oct 26, 2023 @ 7:50am 
I didn't expect to see catholic exceptionalism from a scott pilgrim pfp
Imperator of Rome Jul 4, 2022 @ 3:16pm 
Jesus wasn't known to father any children. Would it not be more historically accurate to make this the Bloodline of James? One of Jesus' brothers? Or perhaps Jude? One of his other brothers? He was also known to be the great grandfather of Judah Kyriakos, the last Jewish Bishop of Jerusalem.
[+DG+] Sir_Castic Jan 29, 2022 @ 11:31pm 
@bruce wayne
because non-catholics aren't really christians
god of being bad at everything Jun 18, 2021 @ 11:40pm 
haselrig why is that a problem a picture of the prophet is fine honestly you should be able to insult anyone if a person went out to the streets with a painting of jesus and burnt it most christians should be quite fine with it unless they dont understand their own theology
truelove101992 Oct 7, 2020 @ 10:21am 
Could you add an option to give player charecters the blood of jesus?
Karaoglan43 Oct 7, 2020 @ 5:42am 
Timur can you upload prophet muhammad bloodline to a link or can u share it on workshop?
Bruce Wayne Aug 8, 2020 @ 1:37pm 
Shouldn't all christians have an opinion of +100, why just Catholics?
Haselrig May 18, 2020 @ 7:30pm 
It's a well done mod. I often forget it's a mod it feels so natural. It does have a picture of Muhammad. I can see that being a problem.
CrusadeExterminator May 18, 2020 @ 9:25am 
I still have the Bloodline of Muhammad mod even though I am a Muslim, it isnt offensive at all its just a bloodline.
Ar Pharazon May 3, 2020 @ 4:41am 
I guess a bloodline of jesus is as offensive as a bloodline of muhammad.

However I guess those you like are welcome to do so, I am one of them and I think it gives some nice features to my characters
Haselrig Apr 16, 2020 @ 9:04pm 
Maybe they took it down? Links all fail.

Here's the description: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9y6unk/blood_of_the_prophet_a_bloodline_mod/

kingcoap Apr 16, 2020 @ 12:21pm 
How is it activated or who has this bloodline? because i can't find it
Haselrig Apr 4, 2020 @ 6:46am 
There's a good mod called Blood of the Prophet that I like quite a bit.
Koharu Apr 4, 2020 @ 6:09am 
The reason there is not picture of Muhammad is because diplaying the face of the prophet is haram.
Karaoglan43 Mar 25, 2020 @ 3:08am 
Could you please do same for Muslim's prophet Muhammad. Same power +100 opinion for muslim's and maybe +5 strike
Whitewatt  [author] Mar 23, 2020 @ 11:51am 
Sorry about not having updated the mod yet :( since I last worked on it my computer broke and I was unable to do anything for about a month or so. I do have the updated files but I need to review them properly bc IDR what I did and when I have time, although job has been leaving me with very little of it :( I will review the updates, test it and update the mod as soon as I can, can't give a date yet though
Karaoglan43 Mar 23, 2020 @ 2:19am 
Mod still working fine/ There is no error on it
Misha Mar 14, 2020 @ 5:30am 
Am i missing something here? Jesus didn't have any kids, You can't have the bloodline of someone who never had kids.
ᚹᛀᚱᛟᛗᛖᚤᚻᚺᛪ Feb 21, 2020 @ 8:54am 
i didn't get bloodline
lüst Feb 17, 2020 @ 12:25pm 
Does the mod still work?
truelove101992 Jan 8, 2020 @ 9:08pm 
Weird request, but could people with this bloodline who become empire tiered get the option for a special title of God-Emperor/Godess-Empress (since most major sects of Christianity tend to see Jesus as both god’s son and god himself in the flesh), possibly adjusted for culture/language, and maybe a special trait with it or something? Would be kind of fun for role playing purposes lol
ДИКИЙ Jan 7, 2020 @ 8:37pm 
but Jesus not jewish, His mother has been gallian, father - God
Blazefox Dec 26, 2019 @ 1:31am 
jews hate Jesus, have you read the talmud? i dont think a +50 modifier its accurate
Name-Giver Dec 18, 2019 @ 9:01pm 
Hello, the mod does not seem to be working for me, my character receives no bloodline on startup
Haselrig Nov 26, 2019 @ 8:15am 
@WasaSloth, if my experience is typical (I use a lot of mods, so it may not be), you'll end up with it eventually if you're Catholic and zealous.
Myers Nov 23, 2019 @ 10:18pm 
Is there a console command to force the bloodline on my character?
Haselrig Nov 9, 2019 @ 10:36am 
Subscribed and played this mod in my current game. I play with a lot of mods running, so it's hard to say for sure if every aspect worked as intended. I'm enjoying it, though.

Couple of things. In my game, the bloodline seems to have proliferated at an alarming rate. It went from one holder to 85 in three generations. Don't know exactly how it spreads as most of the holders don't seem to have the zealous trait. Limiting it to one group to start (like the Cathars mentioned by a previous poster) might be a better model as it seems to be everywhere at this point in my game and it's not even 1000 AD yet.

The second thing is a suggestion. Would it be possible to add an effect? Something like adding the ability to heal (or remove if that's easier to code) one wound per year seems like it would make the bloodline more interesting. Anyway, thanks for working on this.
Rams Nov 6, 2019 @ 11:31am 
Bloodline details:
founded on 03 April 33 [approximate date of crucifixion -could also be 07 April 30]
Monthly Piety: +3.00
Monthly Prestige: +1.00
Christian Opinion: +30
Muslim Opinion: +10
Jewish Opinion: -5
Church: -10 [debatable, but your presence kinda undermines the church, plus Jesus was more or less against established clergy hierarchy]

@whitewatt if you give me a few guidelines on how to do it, I can make this changes based on your github post
Rams Nov 6, 2019 @ 11:31am 
Conditions:
Either
( ) Religion: Christian group
( ) Lifestyle trait: Mystic, Scholar, or Theologian
( ) Lunatic or zealous
( ) Piety 7500 or more
( ) Prestige 5000 or more
or
( ) Religion: Jewish group
( ) Lifestyle trait: Mystic, Scholar, or Theologian
( ) Lunatic or Possessed
( ) Piety 7500 or more
( ) Prestige 5000 or more
or
( ) Religion: Muslim group [Jesus is a Prophet in the Muslim tradition]
( ) Lifestyle trait: Mystic, Faqih, or Theologian
( ) Lunatic or Possessed
( ) Piety 7500 or more
( ) Prestige 5000 or more
Rams Nov 6, 2019 @ 11:31am 
I really like the idea of this mod and have already subscribed. However I believe there might be some improvements.

I agree with most of what @bobomaximus says, specially the negative opinion from Jewish clergy. Moreover, when Jews nowadays visit Jerusalem, they kinda disdain the holy places of Christendom.

Some points that I may add:

- Either the Pope would surely have an opinion malus since you are usurping his authority, or he'd become your vassal as a decision when you're a king or emperor.
- Also, if such OP opinion modifiers wanna remain, maybe you could make it a event available similar to claiming Alexander's bloodline with different sets of conditions for it to fire:
ayeitsad Nov 6, 2019 @ 5:24am 
is there anyway this can be added to shattered world games?
BoboMaximus Nov 3, 2019 @ 9:24pm 
1. He would have been from the House of David.
2. His Religion would have still been Jewish
3. His culture would have been Israelite
4. Would only affect Cathar Heresy (and Late Templars). They Believed that Jesus and Mary of Magdalene had children (Why The Templers were a hersey in the Catholic Church for 700 years)
5. He would have a - stat with Jewish Leaders and Rabbis
Connor Nov 1, 2019 @ 10:03pm 
Just an idea, but it would be cool if you could expand this to other religions, like for example Abu Bakr for Sunnis, Zarathustra for Zoroastrians, etc. Also, sorry to hear about your nan, hope y'all are doing alright.
Quis Machina Nov 1, 2019 @ 8:11pm 
Also i may be really wrong but would Jews get an opinion boost at all? Since most of the Jews just saw Jesus as a guy? Also for consideration i think that the Catholic head should get a malus to opinion since he would see it as a bit of a blasphemus thing to presume? Also with the idea of Jesus having no kids, the way i would see individuals saying the "Have the blood of christ" for my head cannon at least i imagine the decision saying something like "No vices, at least 5 of the virtues, and 10k piety" and you are trying say they are trying to say they walk the path of Jesus and are somehow related or kin to him. Almost like forging a bloodline to him.
Axis1211 Nov 1, 2019 @ 4:36pm 
But Jesus had no Kids like no mention at all in the Bible or Roman Sources.
Namestnik Nov 1, 2019 @ 9:24am 
Why catholic only, but not all Cristian religious group?
CelticPagan Nov 1, 2019 @ 5:53am 
@Whitewatt, none recorded by history, though many claimed it. Supposedly, on his way to England with the Grail, Yosef of Aramathia dropped off Mary Maggdaline in the Frankish lands, and her children, by Jesus, founded the line. He then went on to Wales and buried the grail and planted his staff above it, which sprang into a huge Oak tree. The Merovingians used this as their "Divine" right to rule, but never amounted to a large house. But hey, this is a game, so do as you wish :)
Star¤Dagger Oct 31, 2019 @ 11:38am 
Jesus' bloodline is basically what made the Royals of Europe "Royal"
Whitewatt  [author] Oct 31, 2019 @ 8:49am 
I'll update either tonight or tomorrow. Sorry for taking so long, my nan just passed and localisation is so annoying to write. Ugh!
Whitewatt  [author] Oct 31, 2019 @ 8:45am 
@truelove101992 It only fires based on the triggers and you're not required to be in that dynasty.
No worry though, since I'm working on making claim events rather than the original method.

@Tabby Yes, I'm making it affect the whole christian religion group.

@Quis Machina I agree tbh, I've lowered them for the next update.

@CelticPagan Do they have any bastard dynasty cadet branches? I could give those the dynasty.

@Richard de Bonn CK2 already has those as well as sins.

@Juke By default in CK2, jewish_group has the localisation "Israelite". I'll be removing it. And I just looked into the great warriors thing. I like the idea so I'll make it happen.
Valarian of Naples Oct 30, 2019 @ 7:22pm 
Looks like blasphemy, smells like blasphemy, tastes like blashpemy... Yup, it's blasphemy.
Juke™ Oct 30, 2019 @ 5:34pm 
Wasnt the israelite jewish deal that they DIDNT believe jesus was the messiah? also why catholic only? (and why great warriors, wouldnt great scolars be better?)
RdB Oct 30, 2019 @ 2:27am 
you should have added all 7 great virtues
CelticPagan Oct 29, 2019 @ 4:18pm 
Not sure this belongs, as it was the Frankish Merovingian dynasty that claimed descendency from Jesus, but they died out by 751 CE.
Human72 Oct 27, 2019 @ 9:36pm 
i like this deus vult owo
Quis Machina Oct 27, 2019 @ 4:13pm 
The only issue i see is the opinion modifier is a "bit" strong having a bloodline give a +100 modifier is reeeeeally strong id say at most +20 - +30 i can see the reasoning for a +100 modifier if your related to Jesus but just from the game perspective youd never really deal with rebellions with the current amount.
BlackCat Oct 27, 2019 @ 10:57am 
Is it possible to make this affect Orthodox as well?
truelove101992 Oct 26, 2019 @ 2:11pm 
Also, could you perhaps make it so it doesn't need your dynasty to be "of nazereth" (idk if it actually does that, but it seems to imply that.
truelove101992 Oct 26, 2019 @ 2:02pm 
the event won't actually fire, even with console cammands
zlatky Oct 26, 2019 @ 1:00pm 
Keep us posted, when you update it then. Until then, can't #sub-soz!