I will! Thanks!

@theirishturtle Sure! Please credit me in the description as well!

Can I include this in my mod?

ok, thanks

@tomknudsen37 No, it's just feudal elective, Byzantine, Roman and Holy Roman succession

does it work for elective_gavelkind

ok thanks :)

@darkemperor Sorry, I don't think I can help with your problem. I will have a look into it, but it most likely will remain an issue. Thank you for your compliment about the mod :)

yes it does always. but whenever i use this mod the exporter takes all the time it needs but never exports the game. but i do like your mod since i sometime just want to play a simple game instead of HIP or CK2 plus

@darkemperor I don't know why this mod would effect exporting to EU4. I don't have EU4 or the converter, so I can't test it, but have you confirmed that it works without this mod? I know the converter's meant to be a bit of a mess.

i cant export the game to eu4 while playing with this mod

Apparently it works now, without any reason. Thanks anyway, I'm happy to finally play with this essential mod (I mean, how can we not have an option to refuse the crown ?). By the way, it might be interesting to extend the concept to hereditary kingdoms or even duchies and why not the republics ?

@Yugoslav SFR
I don't have Horse Lords, so I could in theory, but I wouldn't be able to test it and it would end up being a trainwreck. However, anyone can make a submod for this mod to extend its function to nomads if they so wish.

can you make a nomad version?

@Firias Then I really don't know what the problem is. Are you sure the mod is installed properly and enabled?

No that's not that, even if i'm glad for highlight that it's not my case, i'm a vassal of the kaiser. What i mean is if i'm elected kaiser i can't form swiss confederation anymore. The problem is i don't have the decision for refuse the crown.

@Firias I think I understand your problem. You're saying that in your game as the Duke of Savoy, you're not a vassal of the Emperor? In that case you can't take the decision. I will update it now so that you don't have to be in the same realm. Thanks for your feedback

It was supposed to appear anytime or just when you was in the line of election ? Maybe have a claim on the empire don't allow to take the decision ?

@Firias I don't see why it wouldn't appear. For the option to appear in the HRE, you just need to be a vassal of the Kaiser, and you can't already have opted out

The decision doesn't appear for me, for saved game or even new ones. In my saved game i play as a french duke of savoy who want to create the swiss confederation, but i can't if i'm not vassal of the kaiser. And everyone votes for me... Any idea of why it didn't appear ?

@Griffith, Landon IRL @Buluc Chabtan I wasn't sure how much the AI would do it, but I've decided to just change it so that the AI can't take the decision anymore. Thanks for your feedback!

Yeah, not everybody refuses the crown, but members of your dynasty can automatically refuse it, which is nonsense. Also, why random people not even claimants of the throne refuse the crown on a primogeniture inheritance? I laugh so hard at this, because it's like: "Yeah, I know I'm not the firstborn. I'm not even member of your dynasty. Inheritance laws are not even elective but just in case, I don't want the crown, thanks. Signed: A random baron vassal of a random count which is also a vassal of a random viceroy none of whom are members of your dynasty .

This is so fing annoying. Literally every single person in my dynasty instantly refuses the crown. Even like 2 year olds. I feel like this should be for players only or maybe tuned down a bit.

@Oof my Empire Thanks for your answer. Its not about cheating ... well not really, since I am mainly roleplaying. I have an immortal advisor whom I want to become cardinal, but not pope ^^ But I guess thats not really possible.

That's probably the reason, some mods create a different folder for their saves and cache files

No it is up to date, I am using a crap ton of mods which may be messing it up. idk

I think that the decision should give you an opinion bonus with your liege after an election

@Melkor What version are those saves from? If they're from very outdated versions of the game, i.e. pre-Holy Fury, then it won't work because of the succession law added for Byzantium/Rome. I'll look into this issue and see if I can work out what the problem might be

for some reason its not showing up in my mods list :'(

Idk whats wrong then because when I activate the mod it doesn't allow me to access my other saves. Could this be because of other mods I have active?

@_wakakla_ You can give it to an NPC via console commands (the traits are as follows: refuses_imperium for the HRE, refuses_imperium_byz for Imperial Elective, and refuses_the_crown for Elective Monarchy). It doesn't work for cardinals, since it was only intended really for characters to make their own decision on. I wanted this mod to feel as if it could be used without feeling like cheating, so giving it the traits to other characters isn't really what it's meant for. Since the player can't become the Pope, I don't see any real reason to do that within the scope of this mod. If you want, you can always use console commands to excommunicate cardinals you don't like.

can you give this trait to NPC as well and if yes, do they prevent cardinals from being elected pope?

@Melkor It shouldn't mess up your saves, but it's not Ironman compatible.

Is is possible for this mod to not disable my previous saves? If that isn't possible is there any way I can prevent being elected in vanilla? Kill voters?

@1376140376 non linguam orientalem dico

-中央决定了，你来当罗马皇帝
-我一个安条克的牧首，怎么就调到君士坦丁堡来了呢？
-元老院已经研究决定了。
-苟利罗马生死以，岂因祸福避趋之。

I really need this

HIP already has this, so it's not needed, right click your own portrait and you should find it.

Yeah "IMPERIUM NON MIHI EST" is super-correct, and is actually better than using the possessive "meum", because "imperium non meum est" doesn't sound right in latin.

@Ciprian_Bolun It's the possessive dative. If I used meus, it would have to be meum anyway, since it's neuter

Imperium non meus est* Correction. Mihi would mean to me

You should name this mod ,,Jon Snow Syndrom''

@Seses It should be, but I don't know for certain. I've added this to the mod description now, since several people are asking about HIP-compatibility.

Well i could argue being emperor than being back to orignal dominions is also good roleplay and even better play tall, because more income etc etc, faster improvment etc etc. For example there are many good aars, like the Hohenzollern, but its cki, but neverless, totally possible in ckii also. But i also can understand people that desire to stay in the shadow and play a peaceful, great mod neverless, rated up.

Is HIP compatible?

Great idea. Thumbs up.

iloveyounelokouyerper

this is the kind of thing that should be in the game by default, honestly.

@小怪兽(=_=) I don't know for certain, but unless the mod has different succession types for the HRE and Byzantium, then it should be entirely compatible.

Is HIP-mod compatible?