yay!

Most of what I was working on was in the last pdx update, so I kind of stopped with this (and got burned out trying to make a larger hoi4 mod). The name changes should be fine, but I suppose the province-level changes were broken by the last update. It shouldn't take too long to fix. I'll try to take a look later.

come back, we need you

I'm holding off on any updates to the Wars of the Diadochi until we can evaluate the changes PDX is making for he next patch. It looks like many of my remaining issues will be fixed. I may also change "Lysimachid Empire" to "Lysimachid Kingdom" to parallel the new name for the Antigonids

Unfortunately I defend my PhD in 2 weeks - so I've never had less time in my life haha. I will update in May though

Update please?
This mod is what made this game playable
i think you do have some time during this quarantine

please update it for 1.4 :)

No I still haven't updated it yet. Yes, I believe I gave Thrace about that size. I am very sorry to everyone who enjoys this mod, but I have been very busy trying to finish up a PhD. I'll try to push a compatibility update (without the new 4th War of the Diadochi mechanics) soon.

Also if u want to do actual historical armies thrace should have around 30000 and macedon similar they didnt have less than 30000

Hey is the mod updated yet ?

Sounds like a good option! Looking forward to it.

Not yet sorry - been delayed by the holidays. I'll try to finish it this week (no promises, but I'll try). I couldn't think of a good way to model the war through missions, so it will be done via events. I want to capture the war's escalation, the Antigonid partition, and finally the wars leading to the collapse of Lysimachus' empire.

Has this mod been updated? I liked it a lot.

Instead of "Hellenistic Empire" can you make it "Macedonian Empire" or at least "Hellenic Empire" the "istic" part makes it sound its not greek but its more "greek like"

Also, I may revert Macedon and Bactria back to their vanilla names, I want an event for the Cyrene revolt, and I plan to revisit Athens.

I was waiting for the 1.3 Livy Update before getting back to this. I want to play around with the mission system to see if I can model the 4th War that way (the trick would be forcing selection of this tree at start for the Diadochi). If this does not work, then I will implement a complex event chain. The point is to make the Antigonids lose more often and to somehow model their partition, but not to necessarily force either.

The Fourth war of the diadochi normally sees the Antigonids win and not really lose like they did in real life.

@AndreaParo I need to update it (most likely sometime next week), but that sounds like a problem with another mod - I don't adjust province ownership in any way.

There is an issue with this mod, some cities are uncolonized for example in Egypt.. and if you press over them the game crashes.

No I will continue to maintain this as a separate mod, and anything I create that is not dependent on EHI will probably be added to this mod as well going forward.

"Will be fully integrated into EHI in an upcoming update!" does that mean this will stop being a separate mod?

It's been on my mind. The challenge is that I don't want anything to feel too forced. I still want a player to be able to overcome history. But right now vanilla makes actual history either impossible or highly improbable. My philosophy is that an AI only game should usually play out roughly historically (at least on the major beats). PDX modeled the collapse of Burgundy in EU4; I just cannot understand why a similar model was never put in place for the Antigonids...

Oh, and what would be also great: The Celtic invasion of 279 B.C.

Sounds great @Arthrodira. Please keep up!
I like this "railroading" approach.

Would it also be possible to implement a scripted succession war? As to support one of the potential heirs of the Diadochi in the fight against the other contenders and to be rewarded with territories, as it was the case with Cassander and Glaucias of Taulantii.
We need something to drag Pyrrhus and especially Ptolemy to Macedonia and Greece.

@kinky_german_stuff
I'm planning on adding a sort of event guided mini-game to better model the 4th War of the Diadochi. Where Antigonus has until his death to meet certain objectives or he will lose the relevant territories in a partition. The Antigonids should collapse after this one war if they lose, the game just doesn't allow this to happen naturally though.

Great Mod, any plans of adding more events?

@jakub.morcinek I guess I'm confused - I play tested Athens 6 different times each for 10 years without any conquests. It never seemed like a problem. I will likely adjust the numbers some more though - or else eliminate the pop changes altogether

@jakub.morcinek That's the population of Athens if classical sources are interpretted literally and assuming a 1:6k pop to population model, and honestly the more I dig into the starting pops it looks like it should be a 1:4 model (increasing Athens and others even more).

@arthrodira
There is too much slave pops in Athens what creates the starvation and playing tall is hard
Maybe this is not very big problem but its quit annoying when you want to tall play

@jakub.morcinek
Can you elaborate? What specifically is the issue?

can you please balance Athens? They are nearly unplayable now

Would it be possible to make this mod compatible with Gladio et Sale (or a compatible version)? Would love to play this mod with GeS mechanics, thank you for this either way.

@[Grognard]_JC Coincidentally, I have made a light version of the mod that only changes names

It would be nice if the mod ONLY changed the country names. I fear the edits you've further made are incompatible with some other mods I've installed. Thank you.

Argead was the Alexander's dynasty

I wouldn't call historiography BS though; and if I really wanted historical purity, then the names should be in ancient Greek.

As I said; I plan on adding an event to rename the Antipatrids (I change the name in the next update) to Macedon after the wars of the diadochi conclude and things stabilized historically. I may rename "Ptolemies" to "Ptolemaic Egypt" as well, but I am somewhat averse to calling them simply Egypt.

I know Cassander was crowned king of Macedon - so was Antigonus, at the same time... Antigonus didn't claim the crown of Persia or Asia or something. Is Cassander more valid because he happened to ruled in Macedon at the time? It's not like he held the position that long.
The Antigonids ruled the Macedon that Rome fought. So should Phrygia be renamed Macedon then? The point is that the Antigonids were not at war with the Macedonian people; they were Macedonians. Same for Egypt (though nobody else claimed that crown).

but its your mod and you did a good job so you can do whatever you want with the names, but if you want true historical authenticity and accuracy and not BS historiography names then you should leave macedon and egypt as macedon and egypt.

2 Ptolemy I Soter (/ˈtɒləmi/; Greek: Πτολεμαῖος Σωτήρ, Ptolemaĩos Sōtḗr "Ptolemy the Savior"; c. 367 BC – January 282 BC) was a companion and historian of Alexander the Great of the Kingdom of Macedon in northern Greece who became ruler of Egypt, part of Alexander's former empire. Ptolemy was pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt from 305/304[1] to 282 BC. He was the founder of the Ptolemaic dynasty which ruled Egypt until the death of Cleopatra in 30 BC, turning the country into a Hellenistic kingdom and Alexandria into a center of Greek culture.[2]


Ptolemy I Soter was also crowned officaly as Pharaoh of egypt, and yes it says Ptolemaic egypt but that is a term in historiography and at the time and in real life it was just called egypt.

i have no idea where you are reading though that you never heard of anyone calling it macedon untill after the diadochi wars.

1 "Cassander (Greek: Κάσσανδρος Ἀντιπάτρου, Kassandros Antipatrou; "son of Antipatros": c. 358 BC – 297 BC) was king of the Hellenistic kingdom of Macedon from 305 BC until 297 BC, and de facto ruler of southern Greece from 317 BC until his death.[3]

Eldest son of Antipater and a contemporary of Alexander the Great, Cassander was one of the Diadochi who warred over Alexander's empire following the latter's death in 323 BC. Cassander later seized the crown by having Alexander's son and heir Alexander IV murdered.[3] In governing Macedonia from 317 BC until 297 BC, Cassander restored peace and prosperity to the kingdom, while founding or restoring numerous cities (including Thessalonica, Cassandreia, and Thebes); however, his ruthlessness in dealing with political enemies complicates assessments of his rule.[4][5]"

Cassander literally seized the crown of macedon and was crowned as king of macedon.

It was def referred to as Macedon, before, during, and after the diadochi wars. Just in historiography we call it Antigonids or Antipatrids to differentiate between pre diadochi macedon and post diadochi macedon. But in real life during the time of the game and Diadochi wars, everyone just called the kingdom there Macedon.

and yeah i thought you wanted Historical accuracy not Historopgraphic names. If you want accuracy to the times and what they called it during the times, you should just leave macedon and egypt as such.

It should be named macedon because it's the only diadochi that change dynasty several times.

@ SonofDimir1
I haven't tried, but I doubt it.

@Landstander?
Probably

@Son of Seleukos
I agree, Cassandrids is a bit of an odd one; I will probably change it to Antipatrids. I am not aware of anyone calling it Macedon until after the Wars of the Diadochi though (I am considering an event for it). In historiography, "Egypt" is usually called "Ptolemaic Egypt" or "the Ptolemies." I may add an event for that one too.

same with egypt, it should just be called egypt still.

although you should change "cassanderids" back to macedon, as they were called the Kingdom of Macedon by themselves and everyone since they owned the heartland. no one called them Cassanderids, same with when the antigonid dynasty took over macedon, it was still called macedon.

awesome job man, i hate the stupid name "Argean Empire" when i formed it as seleucids!

Lemme guess, the Armenians and Anatolian Hellenes Must be longing to form the Ottoman empire in future expansions too.

They seriously gave the Hellenistic diadochy empires the option of becoming the Argead Empire. Oh lord Paradox, what the friggin hell?

save game friendly?