Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

The Sufi Schools
84 Comments
Literal Lizard Jun 24 @ 6:41am 
Thank you for the information, that may be the issue, that they are rulers and etc. I actually have never been able to use that power in the many years i've used this mod hehe, but despite that the other additions are just too good to pass up and add a lot of flavor to muslim campaigns. Thank you bunches :diplomacy:
Maal  [author] Jun 23 @ 10:00pm 
And I am glad to see people still enjoying my mods. :ambition:
Maal  [author] Jun 23 @ 9:57pm 
@Literal Lizard
I'll have to check to code, let's see...

For it to appear on a character:

The liege must:
You need the Monk and Mystic DLC
Be an adult
A muslim
Not a heretic

The target must:
Be decadent
Of your dynasty
Not a member of a sufi society
A muslim
Not a heretic

For it to be clickable:
The target cannot be incapable
You cannot be incapable
Cannot be inaccessible (stuck in event, seclusion, etc)
The target musn't be a ruler
The target musn't be in a society
The target must be decadent.

It might be limited to your court too, I am not sure if I remember how that line code.
Literal Lizard Jun 23 @ 9:48pm 
Hey, I know this mod is old and such, and I love it so much, a must have for me. How do I go about forcing decadent members into the sufi order? I'm not sure how to use the power exactly, as it doesn't come up in the list of options for decadent characters. Thanks for the great mod!
Maal  [author] Jun 15, 2022 @ 3:55pm 
@plainswalker88
Sorry, I haven't really played CKII for years. So getting back into it to make a new mod I wouldn't use feel a bit of a waste.
plainswalker88 Jun 14, 2022 @ 11:46pm 
Hello! This is almost the mod i was looking for! Is there any chance you could make a version of this mod for judaism?
Maal  [author] Dec 31, 2021 @ 2:11am 
@Big Blue Dude
Ck2 mods only start downloading when you launch the launcher, small tweak mods with few picture smight be instant, but those with new pictures might a tiny bit too slow to show the first time? It's a bit of a messy system.

But there shouldn't be anything that prevent it from being downloaded at all, the file size seen on this page show that something is there to be downloaded.
Big Blue Dude Dec 30, 2021 @ 11:06am 
I downloaded this but it's not showing up in my modlist on the launcher OR my computer files. What do?
HayBinYakzan Jun 24, 2021 @ 5:27am 
Thanks it's a good mod it's make muslim saves more enjoyable
Maal  [author] Jan 19, 2021 @ 5:48pm 
I do not see anything in Frosty3 that could break it. Only severly breaking the monastic order or muslims could do that.
Riekopo Jan 19, 2021 @ 5:06pm 
Does this need updated for HIP?
StraboSE Dec 22, 2020 @ 1:46pm 
This is an amazing mod.
Quis Machina Jun 28, 2020 @ 3:01pm 
@Maal
Hey i totally understand, i still love your mods (Paradox should learn from them) So thank you for what you have added to the community. Best wishes for whatever your future brings.
Maal  [author] Jun 28, 2020 @ 1:47pm 
@Quis Machina
Unfortunately, I sort-of fell-off CK2 modding. Just keeping the stuff alive and drawing traits/society screens/religion icons and other artwork for other modders if they need any like Rise to Power or CK2plus. But I basicaly do not have the time required to properly test CK2 mods these day, which is the longest and most boring part. :(
Quis Machina Jun 28, 2020 @ 7:05am 
Hey Maal i was wondering if youd be able to do anything like say for a Monastic order for Israelite faiths, and maybe something for the pagan religions that take the "Monastic Orders" Doctrine. I mainly ask you because your mods tend to be very compatible, thank you for any info.
Maal  [author] Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:49pm 
@4powerd
I can IIRC. But it'll take a few years for it to reach a decent amount of members and work properly. The game auto-fill societies on game start only. After that it a slow trickle in.
4powerd Jun 5, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Can this mod be activated during a save? Or do I need to start a new game?
mayouhm Feb 12, 2020 @ 12:48pm 
By salafi I mean more traditionalist that was a mistake on my part. I just think it could be a contrast to the Sufi schools. But it's only an idea
Maal  [author] Feb 12, 2020 @ 12:38pm 
@theartisticskeleton
Salafi is something that was created relatively recently. And if it weren't, would they be different enough to be worth an entire society/group by themselves?
mayouhm Feb 12, 2020 @ 11:07am 
Cool mod. Some salafi societies might be interesting as well
Maal  [author] Jan 9, 2020 @ 9:03pm 
@Strozzapreti
Looked at my code and I see that Zaydi is indeed in there, but commented out because it is "un-used" which i guess mean that at that point HIP had disabled that religion or something?

Look at the scripted_trigger file again for the trigger named "has_sufi_societies_religion_shiite".
There is a line of code: "# religion = zaydi #HIP, unused"
Remove the first # and it should work fine.
lelele Jan 8, 2020 @ 9:57pm 
@Maal already figured out how to do it for normal heresies but now I realized Zaydis aren't a heresy anymore. Is it possible to just add them to a pre-existing society or would that require more work?
Maal  [author] Jan 8, 2020 @ 6:58pm 
@Strozzapreti
You mean allow the heresies in or the Kharijites in particular?
radicalkiwi Dec 23, 2019 @ 2:25pm 
This worked, thanks!
Maal  [author] Dec 22, 2019 @ 9:45pm 
@radicalkiwi
They are still an heresy I think in CK2plus.
Go into common/scripted_triggers, find has_sufi_societies_religion_ibadi, remove the "is_heretic = no"

I haven't tested it, but it should be work?
radicalkiwi Dec 22, 2019 @ 7:08pm 
Hi, I want to make it so that Kharijites can join the Ibadi sufi order in CK2 Plus, how would I go about editing the files to do that?
Skidee Dec 3, 2019 @ 8:50pm 
I have the dlc. The only mods I have are graphical or musical
Maal  [author] Dec 3, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
Just tested it and they seem to be working. Are you using any other mods? Also, unlike my other society mods, this one need monks & mystics as the sufi society are 90% copies of the monastic orders, so you need the dlc.
Skidee Dec 3, 2019 @ 7:13pm 
No I made a new game
Maal  [author] Dec 3, 2019 @ 7:07pm 
@Skidee
Did you enable the mod mid-game? I yes it might take a few years for them to properly work as societies have to randomly fill up, specialy for the non-sunni ones as they are fewer characters of those religion.
Skidee Dec 2, 2019 @ 6:03pm 
When does the order appear? It never shows up for me. I like to play in iron century start
al-Sayyid Nov 27, 2019 @ 1:07am 
As long as we have your permission!
Maal  [author] Nov 25, 2019 @ 8:54pm 
@Sultan Abdul Hamid II
Holy orders societies are part of my Orders of Chivalry mod.

@al-Sayyid
This mod is just a bit of art and localization tweaking. I do not really want to manage alternate version for compatibility. Feel free to integrate what you want into the AtE mod/exp and just credits me somewhere, if that's fine with you.
al-Sayyid Nov 24, 2019 @ 1:32pm 
Hi @Maal,
Is there a way I can discuss incorporating this into the islam expansion for After the End with you?
Sultan Nov 19, 2019 @ 8:00pm 
Perhaps you could add a holy order for more fundamentalist Muslims, maybe call it the Salafiyya and make the requirement to join as having the zealous trait. Looks like a cool mod.
Palpatine34 Oct 24, 2019 @ 7:57am 
Love this mod. Thanks
raguel Aug 14, 2019 @ 2:21pm 
Hey this mod is not compatible with Better Sea Kings mod, in the since that with both mods active the raiding troops from BSK spawn for rulers whether or not they are tribal, have the bloodline, and/or have the decision to spawn the troops. I've already left a comment with the other author. In the meantime I'll just deactivate this when I'm playing pagan.
VeryFastPicket Jul 25, 2019 @ 4:29pm 
That Safaviya claim on Persia idea is actually really good. Would it be difficult to implement? I would add it myself just for my own enjoyment but I'm not very experienced
Maal  [author] Jul 9, 2019 @ 10:15am 
@Jessy2299
If anything was added to the indian/christian societies in the latest version, these won't be in this mod's societies. But that's the only thing, everything else will work as usual.
Jessy2299 Jul 8, 2019 @ 2:00pm 
Is it compatible with last version of the game ?
Maal  [author] Jun 3, 2019 @ 12:07am 
@Daniel
I see no reason for it not to be but I'll do a check in the coming days. Perhaps the new heresy won't be enabled as people allowed to join, but that fix won't break an on-going save if I update it after you've started the game with my mod.
Simon May 31, 2019 @ 12:51pm 
is this compatible with 3.2 update?
Enriador May 26, 2019 @ 10:11am 
That's from vanilla, merely for balance purposes. Joining the order gives a fertility penalty in order to not make it a no-brainer - and the final bonus is, well, more to make it stand out than anything else.

Try to roleplay: you get a fertility malus because you dedicate most of your time in your rituals and cerimonies, and then a bonus because you reached the highest level and can afford to spend more time with the ladies.
Maal  [author] May 25, 2019 @ 4:10pm 
@Enriador
I think that he meant that the other ranks have a penalty, only the 4th has a fertility bonus.
Enriador May 21, 2019 @ 6:37pm 
@pdobrzanski What possible reason could there be for a fertility debuff for Mevlevi? The order did not recommend celibacy, quite the opposite.
Maal  [author] May 16, 2019 @ 8:06am 
@pdobrzanski
Weird ain't it? But the person who counseled me about sufism told me it was meant to be positive.
pdobrzanski May 16, 2019 @ 2:58am 
hello. just saying, you forgot a minus in sunni grandmaster and now it gives +15 procent fertility, insteag giving -15 procent fertility
Maal  [author] Apr 15, 2019 @ 10:15am 
@Wolf
Haven't tested the Wonder patch, but it should be as I do see any change to the monastic orders or muslims.
Looked at Furry4 update and see nothing that would affect it either.
Wolf Apr 15, 2019 @ 4:24am 
is this mod compatible to the latest patch and hip furry4?
Maal  [author] Feb 27, 2019 @ 5:23pm 
@Enriador
I guess that I could, will add that to the "to-do maybe" list.