update?

-CML-Vagabond
How would they then qualify as "Slayers" as in disgraced Dwarfs, oath-sworn to seek their own, shame-redeeming, Death? A new Kind of Unit for that would fit better. Beastwranglers.

SFO's recent update has made changes to the base dwarf factions that break compatibility with Kraka Drak and your SFO patch. This includes overriding the tier 4 Kraka Drak barracks with a different building and causing multiple bugs on the unit recruitment screen. Your patch will at least load, while the official SFO patch just crashes outright. Hoping for an update, please. More details at the Bug Report discussion thread of the Kraka Drak page. Thank you.

Any chance for an update?

I know there is nothing about this lore wise, either direction. I just always thought it'd be cool thematically, if instead of Norse Dwarf slayers being the same as their southern counterparts, if instead they subjugated monsters. Like wrangled them and broke them to be used as pets.

I'll try to get around to looking into it sometime this week. Thanks for letting me know!

Can you update? SFO changed a lot of names of abilities, which means mods like these are probably the reason for some crashes

Well the good news is Hell Pit will be getting something from me at some point as well. The bad news is that point isn't likely to be soon.

Stout. Me personally, I would actually prefer being able to expand into Hellpit properly, and leave Norsca to subjugated vassals.

Glad you like it! When I get around to finishing Kraka Dorden I'll try to fix those bugs along with it

This is a big improvement over the original kraka drak mod. In the vanilla mod the new units didnt really have a purpose, now they have. I also like the new landmarks.

One bug I found: Longbeards are recruitable from the barracks twice, once without any traits. Slayers are recruitable twice as well.

Oh, if its below 20% thats fine, I assumed it would have to be close to 0.

Mod is great, much more fun than the official SFO patch to me

Yea I'll have to look at the vanilla scripts to see the exact threshold, but I have the insane trait set to trigger after 20 turns the the requirement is met (i think more than 50% corrupted) and to go away after 3 turns in a location that is sufficiently uncorrupted.

Hmmm...It should have walls by default since it replaces Aesling's conclave (which is a major settlement). As for the Insane-remover, I will consider it. I already made the trait go away on its own (when in untainted enough territory...it's been awhile but i think below 20% is the number) in 3 turns I believe, but its possible there needs to be a solution that arrives sooner.

Also, would it be possible to make a building remove negative traits, similar to the brettonian one. Annoying when 3 characters get the 'Insane' perk 20 turns in and theres no untainted areas to remove it.

Is there a reason Kraka Ornsmotek doesnt have walls? Building the gate defence chain also doesnt add them.

I can look into it in greater deal the beginning of next week. Are you sure its not some other mod causing the issues? The mod doesn't change hiring of heroes (or anything but stats of heroes at all)

im getting some glitches with this, no ability to train engeineers and hero hiring menu missing header in the center

OK, cool, thanks for responding.

the attributes one i know--I havent put them in so they dont exist. The other is a bug i believe caused by "Ghost Units" meaning units that appear for the building, but you cant recruit because youre the wrong faction. Unfortunately my present location makes it difficult to perform testing, so it may be a while for a fix to the 2nd thing to roll out. The first thing shouldnt be to difficult

I like the balance of this version and the inclusion of the Daemon Slayers, but I noticed a few minor glitches. Daemon Slayers have no attributes listed on their unit card. There are duplicate units in the recruit menu for Giant Slayers and Longbeards (shields) that also have no attributes listed. Are you familiar with this issue and what may be the cause?

Updated! If you think some aspects of balance should be tweaked due to other SFO balance changes, please mention it! (Mainly new norsca and how Kraka Drak fares against them)

Hang tight everyone SFO should be out Wednesday. Once its out I'll get to work updating this mod (if it needs anything done--it may not).

I've sent a friend request as to not clutter the comment section

Sure I've been considering that. I'm pretty sure that the slayer units will be added, but not sure about the Shieldbearers since they already have a lot of elite infantry and not sure they "fit". If I do add them, they will probably be recruitable from the Kraka Throne Building.

A list of buildings that you believe need a revamped/added garrison would be helpful (and perhaps mentioning the approximate analogue that the regular SFO dwarves have)

If you'd like I could make a list of buildings in need of garrisons and my suggestions for appropriate garrisons to take some work off your shoulders

Hey, since you're making this as a Compatibility patch for SFO, do you mind going above and beyond and not limiting yourself to balance?

I mean adding the SFO units when appropriate to be available for recruitment (Giant Slayers, Shieldbearers and Daemon Slayers), and adding garrison units to Cataph's buildings (Norscans to the Tribal camps and stuff like that).

Ah, you're right. I was using yours and the official patch. Thanks a lot!

I dont think theres any other way that youre getting undying oath and unyielding oath on the same units other than have both the unofficial and official SFO patch enabled (unless there's a mod I'm not familar with that also adds these effects to Kraka Drak units--in which case that would be the cause). If you think theyre not, try deleting both and resubing since sometimes things break and will stay enabled/disabled when they shouldnt from what I've heard.

I just checked my game, and I haven't found any of those things. Are you using my unofficial SFO patch, the official SFO patch, or both? If you have both enabled disabled one. If you want my version of balance take my version, if you want the official version from Venris take the offical patch--they arent compatible since they change alot of the same things.

Love what you've done with Pathgrinders and the Troll Melter. The damage buffs really make them viable weapons now rather than just novelties. A few critiques however.
-It is superfluous to have both Undying and Unyielding Oaths on units, especially so many. Undying Oath is supposed to be a replacement/upgrade of Unyielding Oath and no other SFO unit has both. It should be relegated to the most elite units, so at lowest Wardbearers and up. The rest of the units you should just keep Unyielding oath on and for the ones with Undying, get rid of Unyielding.
-The Crimson Bane have the exact same HP of regular Stormbeards. Should get slight buff.
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-Huskarls (including the RoR version) have less HP than Longbeards, despite them supposed to being the best of the best. On ultra its Huskarls 10240 vs Longbeards and Stormbearers GW 11200.
-Stone Guard have a pitiful 5920hp, several thousand less than other low unit count elite units.
-Grom Bakraz are a little lacking in hp at only 9760, which is less than standard Dwarf Warriors, and their stats aren't impressive enough to warrant such low hp.
-Raiders of the Lost Urk also have lower hp than Dwarf Warriors. Even Ekrund Miners have 100 more HP than them. Should get slight buff.

It is indeed kind of niche, but since I believed I should make it, I thought others may be of the same mind.

Awfully specific mate, but exactly what I needed! Thank you very much friend