New version uploaded here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3548940476

This contains 5 years of misc bug fixes and small things. Enjoy!

Thank you for answering.

I can try to get it on sometime in the next few weeks.

@tsf4 would it be possible to upload the new version of WtWSMS on Steam?

Big thanks to the dev team for this masterpiece! My favourite mod

Safer download now available on the Paradox forum: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/wtwsms-2025-interim-release.1853928/

hear ye, hear ye! Some of us developers got together and decided to release the last few years worth of bugfixes and development to you, even though its not a planned/major release. With Loup being inactive, and development being scare for ck2 now, we thought it best to give you all the latest and greatest. It is fully playable, as my own 200+ year save thats ongoing can attest to. Here is the link, get it on Discord or Paradox forum thread for the mod.

I really hope "Old Saxons" "Old Frisians" & other such cultures should be renamed. It doesn't feel right playing as an "Old Saxon".
AI can do a pretty good job at translating these names into West Germanic, Old Saxon & Old English, which looks a lot better than "Old Saxon" on the map.

@tsf4 I hope there's a update soon, Been watching Ancient Sight on YouTube about Late Roman History and it's really fascinating

Imagine this with HIP map

You can add more stage dates after the year 600 to the mod

@tsf4 Thank you for your answer!

Will provinces this mod get updated in the future? Because it uses a old province setup in some places, such as Italy and Brtain, which makes the mod unbalanced.

So I know that Hellenism being pre-reformed is a design choice because having it unreformed "wouldn't make sense" as it was explained somewhere deep in these comments, but is there any chance the decision could be more clearly explained?

It just kind of baffles me. The pagan reformation mechanic in vanilla is there because the pagan religions are weak and on the decline, so they can be reformed to better defend against the major religions. If this mod were set at the height of Hellenism, I would totally understand making it pre-reformed. But it's not. Hellenism is very much on the decline in this mod, and the Roman Empire hasn't had a Hellenic emperor in over 200 years. And yet Germanic Paganism is still a reformable religion, despite being one of the largest and most significant religions on the map.

It just strikes me as a somewhat illogical and arbitrary game design choice, so I'm really curious if there's substance to the decision that I'm missing.

It's not abandoned. We have made quite a lot of fixes and such, but Loup is not ready to post another version til certain things get done. We are thinking about putting out a release though in the future, containing these fixes.

Thats such a pity thats its abandoned,new Crusader Kings map from last updates could really give the mod second life

Does Theodoric have any events that grant him a claim on Italy?

Question. I've noticed that Jewish characters have a -10 to general opinion because they are Jewish. However I don't think a Jewish person should take a -10 from other Jewish characters. How would I change that for personal use in this mod?

Alguien sabe como activar el mod al juego?, me sale como inactivo

Mod that always makes me come back to CK2 :)

one of the best mod which i played in a long time.

Hey bro I've a question and I want u seriously answer this pz... How do you put bureaucracy picture in laws tab? I wanted really seriously change images from own governmentes I've made and get rid of "anarchy" image. It looks awful and anticlimatic

@TheShooterGlider If it works like vanilla you need to have the heresy in more counties than the religion it's an heresy from.

How do I make arianism no longer a heresy?

Hello, I have a question to developers about making south of France Manichean in the mod - is there any historical information of Manicheans actually living there during this time period? Or was it added as a replacement for other gnostic religion?

*that

I saw somewhere in the files (?) than a Greek holder of Persian Empire can sorta restore Seleucid Empire. It was called something like "Syrian Empire" or "Asian Empire" or something like that. But how do I get it? Can't form

Have "noreligion" problem. What the cause?

is there a way to start during the Islamic conquest or play as them?

oh I see, my files got corrupted, manual reinstall fixed it

No matter which way I install this, and follow tutorials, the start dates before 769 never appear as options.

Yes! Very playable. I encourage you to get the Github of the mod, which contains some more bugfixes. I have a 120 ish year save going right now, zero crashes so far.

is this mod still playable?

Go to the Github link, click the green "Code" button, and then download as a zip. Unzip the files once downloaded, and then copy the folder to Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\mod\WtWSMS , then make sure to copy the .mod file into the "mod" folder and then edit it with Notepad+, and make sure the path line matches. Mine looks like this for example: path = "mod/WtWSMS/WTWSMS"

Do this for the portrait .mod files too.

hello author could you please tell me how to install this mod from github manually because i read installation but could not able to understand , if there is any step by step installation video or any guide to install this and im not very good techie

this mod is great but the plague is a little over the top

Thats why I posted the news of the Git here. Now you all know. Loup just isn't ready to update Steam til certain things get done.

or at least add the git page in the descriptions lol

so it's still being updated on git while not in workshop? just checked, last git update was last nov. nice work, but really, would be appreciated if workshop is updated along

based modders

I thought this mod was abandoned just by looking at the steam workshop update date for this mod. I just downloaded this mod from github. Thank you so much for keeping it updated!

Lotta janky Rivers, particuarly in Germany / Russia / Finland

Is the Paradox EU4 Converter Compatible or the Community made one?

Loup is waiting to update, like I said, whenever certain things are finished. Submods cannot be combined because, in the case of portraits for sure, it hinges on if you own that specific dlc or not. I get it, its annoying. But nothing we can really do about it, save a complete redo of the ck2 launcher to enable "mod packs", that sort of thing.

such a great idea, please update. and also consider combining all the submods (i don't love clogging up my modlist)

No, it is not. We have been making fixes on Github. We are just not sufficiently ready for another release until Loup is. Github is ready and playable though.

is the game abonded?

yay

maybe someone should make a fanfork or something to fix bugs idk

My keeps crashing at the dat 3 August 635. Even if somehow I manage to go pass that date, There are other crashes in different dates.