This doesn't show up in my mods, not sure why. Prob the steam workshop being silly again, please fix it if you can, this mod is awesome!

will there be an update?

Update please

You could also work with the Expanded High Elves Mod for compatability as this is a really cool idea!

Glad to see people like the mod, I may update it in the future

This place is full of spider webs. Can someone clean it?

Update please

Dead.

Will you update then :P

If you guys really like the mod I’ll update it, but I’m very busy atm.

Update??

The white sash is from the Lorthern Sea Guard torso. I'm hard at work on a very large project at the moment so I'm not taking requests. I've been considering opening up a paypal or a patreon and doing commissioned work for people like yourself that want something very specific. Is that something you'd be interest in?

Ah gotcha ya, thank you for the response. Well would it be to much trouble to see if you could do a version with a white sash and armor like the spearmen in Haughty elves Mod....Get my army to match lol All good if you can't. Thank you for the time ethier way.

Unfortunately I cannot becuase the flowing cloak animation is tied to the eternal gaurd animation. If I used the high elf animation, then the cloaks would remain static and look awful.

Love the look of the cloaked version, Awesome unit! But the cloaked version doesn't use Standard High spear animation...more like the Dread spear...any chance you could change ....Please...

Update please :)

ah, thank you. another question, how do you create mods?

@Rogue

check the unit size setting under graphics.

hi, is it possible to increase the number of soldiers? 60 are a few for an elite unit, could you bring them to 80 per unit?

How about making SFO version of this? I'd recommend lowering the number of troops from 120 to 100. Makes no sense supposedly better unit than original spearmen has to rely on numbers :)

Big Changes

reduced melee attack to 22
reduced normal damage to 18
reduced AP damage to 10
increased bonus to large to 16

reduced upkeep from 325 to 265

I am playing Eltharion's custom LL and startpos but other than that I don't think any of my mods should have an effect, my friend has suffered a problem where his habitable climates have changed to match mine so that's also weird :S

Wtf

My silver spears are dying from attrition because the game thinks they are undead

Lowered melee attack to 26
Lowered melee defense to 45
Decreased HP by 1
Decreased weapon attack to 18 normal damage and 12 AP, bonus to large is the same.

Patch notes:

-Decreased armor from 100 to 90
-Decreased melee defense from 60 to 50
-Increased recruitment cost in campaign and multiplayer to 1200
-Changed recruitment requirement from forge 1 to forge 2

I think that might be a good idea actually. I believe they are set to teir 4, upping it to 5 to be equal to SM might be a good idea. They should beat white lions, but only because they can outlast them, so they should take a good amount of damage from them and the white lions should perform better against infantry than the SS. So if you had to choose between the two for an anti infantry unit then he white lions should be the better choice because they are more cost effective in that role.

Their upkeep is at 325 now (compared to SM at 300), I think it might do well to up them to 375.

The rest of the changes seem pretty solid so I'll give it a go.

As for the number of units I want to keep it at 120 so you have the option of a large unit in the end game where as all the other choices only have 90 men. Lore wise, they're good, but not that good individually to have 90 men, so they do need 120.

In 1 vs 1,they win the white lions and are less expensive in the campaing...thats the problem,the AI recruit most Silver Spears
I test it in an entery campaing and thats the problem....no more Lothern sea guards or normal spears....all are silver spears
Maybe i think they are a little bit OP because i think in this unit as a middle-high tier,not as elite unit
I will change the melee defense to 50(now is 60) and the armor to 80 or 90 (like white lions or sword masters)
If not,only decreasing the number,of 90 to 75(80 if you can do it,i dont know) or increasing they upkeep and recruitment cost to do it elite units,but I personally prefer a middle-high tier unit than a elite unit
This are only personal suggestions based in mi experience with the unit
The skin and the cloak are really cool!
Thanks for your great job!

@avnerarik

I think that's a great way to put it.

i think the unit fullfils the role of "holding the line" more than "charging"...

What stats were you thinking of reducing? I'm down for some suggestions if you've tested them already and have some numbers for me.

Testing in custom battles and campaigns has shown they are really solid and don't feel op. Really tanks, slow, low damage output, and high survivability. In large battles, they will have 15-40 kills while SM and PG will have 100-200+ kills, but the SS come out with more health.

I really like this unit mod,but i test it in a campaing and they are to op
Can you reduce a little the stats?

You're right that it would probably prevent clipping while marching. However, the clipping is minor enough to not outweigh the style change. I feel that, even with the small amount of clipping, the spearmen legs are still better. The Silver Helm leggings are cavalry leggings which makes the spearmen leggings are more practical and appropriate.

so, would you change the legs for the ones of the Silver Helms, instead of the "dress" of the spearmen? it will help with the cloak getting "into" the dress while marching...

Of course, I'll have it out in a few days.

Love this mod! Any chance you'd make a version compatible with SFO?

coude you make a version for SFO ? woud be great =D

Thank you!

Subbed and rated good job Remake.

The reason why they wear silver helm gear is because they, like the silver helms, come from upper class HE society or at least have a lot of money to spend. Silver spears must purchase their commission and armor. Back in the day, in order to become and officer in the British military, you had to buy you commission, meaning you had to pay to be an officer and for every rank afterwards. This limited the british officer core to aristocrats or the people they liked. The silver spears and the silver helms come from roughly the same strata of high elf society where as the silver helms are the higher end (and are nobility)and the silver spears are the lower end or elves who have simply saved enough money to buy the commission (it is not cheap). It would make sense that these two units have very similar armor.

They have the silver helm helm and chest piece, which is a different shape and has ornaments. If you put the two units side by side you'll see they look as different as they need to be. The idea is that they need to look like a spearmen but with more advanced/intricate armor so that they look like the next tier of the same thing rather than a diffferent unit all together. Same idea with dwarf warriors and long beards. Same concept, stylistically, you don't want to add to many elements present in different units like sword master helms or lord tower shields because it makes those pieces less unique and both units become less cool.

I think giving them swordmasters helmets (or ny healmets with feathers on them) could potentially look way better and set them appart nicely from vanilla spearmen.

is very nice, is possible this skin for normal spears?

please normal spearman with this skin

The blue gen that you see is from a private mod that I use that eliminates the red from the color scheme and replaces it with the same blue as the primary color. Everyone else will have a red gem.

very very nice, is possible white emblem of the shield and red gem autor?
thanks