i've never had any issue, and none of my friends are either with the files. i no longer support the mods when my old PC died on me. i can say that it most likely works just fine due to half a thousand people still use this mod and it just could be a steam issue.

like say a long time or something

does this mod and your better bodyguards mod take this long to load in the data files when both are being used?

ermagurd jarl baling

The one thing that always bothered me was Vignar's appearance. Thank you so much!

And thanks~

That part's all fine now...I had an inevitable quest bug and so I have to make a new character...I was going to anyway... :) anyways nice mod

@avalanche22~ That is a bug with the game, not my mod as I don't edit or even touch the aggro behaviors of the Jarls. I was looking up your problem, and you aren't the first person this has happened to. As how to fix it... you could try looking up on wiki the console commands and use them to make everyone in the room passive to you, and then see if you can finish your quest or whatever business you have there. Or you can try reverting to a previous save where you didn't have the issue. This is why I keep at least 2 or 3 saves for one particular character. That's all I can really think of to help you. It's either that or I would just start a new game (wouldn't be the first time for me because of a bug), and just make sure you have multiple saves incase such an issue ever arrises again.

Ulfric is trying to kill me, as an Imperial mesenger. HELP?!?!!?!!!!

i do see the changes :D

@ruthlesswill~ Well generally to the average person some of my efforts don't seem to do much. However, if you pay attention to details a lot more than the average person you'll notice the changes. I didn't do as much facial changes in this one as my others because I wanted the Jarls to remain mostly original, like when my housecarl mod first came out. I may revisit at a later date for more touchups after I examine the changes myself ingame or whatever if I feel like it needs, like how my housecarl one has changed over time. Generally the changes for this mod was small changes to the faces like facial hair, hair style, eyes, nose, eyebrows, facial color, etc. I know I've been wanting to change that dark elf lady's face of his to something more appealing for quite awhile lol.

wait author one thing i barely changes them i see small changes,but rightbelow you talked about guards mod make armor cooler i do like thie wider face and eyes on the yarl of whitrun though :D

Jarl's Right Hands / Guards is planned to be my next mod, probably sometime early January is when I'll start working on that.

makes me want to go download that old movie though

Alright thanks,sorry for my long reply,been doing lots of thinks lately!

@Wildcard~ That's just a cover picture for the mod xD lol I wanted something that looked Jarl~esc

I was really hoping to see more barbarian-esc jarl's atop a thrown cladded in very vivid armor when I saw the picture of the mod then I looked closer and realized you stole it from a movie called Conan the Barbarian done by Aronald Schezneger

@Hersir666~ Just because I raised the level cap, does not make them necessarily not a push over. Jarl Elisif's class is marked down as a Citizen (a non-combat class), coupled with the fact that she doesn't own a weapon on her person shows she is still a push over weakling. However, this mod simply just makes it so she's not a simple walk up to and hit in the face one hit knock out like she was set at (hopefully).

Lol...the Solitude Jarl is a little inexperienced girl, which can be easily seen from the in game dialogue, dont think that she would be kicking the crap out of anybody.

@delaquoowa~ A fix for your issue has been posted in the description with detailed instructions. Sorry for the inconvenience, still trying to figure out why it's not uploading the export for Balgruuf's face.

I 100% agree with this. The leaders should be able to kick the crap out of me if i dare attack them. Especially the Solitude Jarl and the Imperial General! Well atleast until i get to level 60 or so. Furthermore even the guards should be alot tougher than they are. I should be able to win one on one at 30 or so, and only take on a group at around 60. Good mod! I'll be looking forward to the updates.

I see no change...

Ok the issue with the grey face Balgruuf, so far on my side it looks just fine. I even applied a fix that should be what fixes the grey face issue if it was something I did wrong during the editing process.

If anyone else has this issue please let me know and what texture mods you happen to be using would be helpful.

@delaquoowa~ Ok, wow lol. Not sure what's causing that. I'll have a few friends test it and I'll see if the issue is with my mod or if it's something else you have.

@delaquoowa~ Upload with steam, post it in public and I should be able to view it.

How can I send you a screenshot?

His face is still grey like for me, could it possibly be a lighting mod causing this?

Does anyone know how this runs with Xenius Character Enhancement (XCE)? This looks really good but not too sure they'd play nice. Though, far as I can tell I don't think the other mod changes these NPC's directly.

@delaquoowa~ I lightened up his eye areas, after examining the mod a bit more, I realised that the lighting coming from the fires and etc. just make those areas of his eyes stand out way more than expected and a mismatching color effect happens. Thanks for pointing this issue out to me, if you're still having problems please let me know. Also, if it's any better I'd like to know that as well. =p

I got some screen shots but I will disable CBBE real quick to see if anything changes.

@delaquoowa~ Yeah CBBE it will work in a way, but as I stated, your results may vary. I have a friend that uses CBBE and his characters look way different than what's shown in my screenies. I started these mods for the vanilla body users mainly, and it does work just fine with some texture mods. For example, I personally use Final Younger Characters (pretty much removes all the excessive wrinkles and horrible shadow textures on faces), and it works fantastic with that. As not many people have shown me their results with their texture mods, I can't conclude everyone will get the same results lol. I don't plan on making a CBBE version, however you're free to mess with my mod for your personal use. Just make sure you select the NPC you edited and press CTRL+F4 after you finish editing NPC appearances how you like it. I wonder if CBBE changes the skin tones off vanilla, and that is what's causing your issue?

I do have CBBE but in the description is says it'll work fine.I'll try to get a screenshot, I'm also messing around with some other mods atm!

@delaquoowa~ If you can give me a screenshot, I may have forgotten something like exporting his face or something. Should be easy fix if it's really that bad. Also, if you happen to use any body mods, that may be your issue, but let me know and I'll see what's going on.

I'll check again if I have mislooked,but when I saw him his whole face color was different,it didn't even match his arm's skin color. You also make a good valid point for his eyes...

@delaquoowa~ I didn't change his skin color, I actually lightened it up in some places. His eye areas are dark, but I figured I would kind of keep it that way. As the man in the center of all this conflict, he probably doesn't get too much sleep. In fact a lot of the Jarls are like this, in an age of war and conflict for the people in charge (the Jarls) I can't imagine them getting enough sleep all the time, all the stress and pressure from it all. If you're thinking the guy next to him, well he was actually darker by default lol, I made him 2 skin tones lighter.

Jarl Balgruuf's skin looks dark and wierd for me

@squeeklysbigbadshop~ I was thinking about doing the thanes or main guards for the Jarls later in another mod perhaps. Just not currently the focus of this one. I have a lot planned that I want to do, just not in a rush to do it all. Don't want to burn out on Skyrim.

As for why I chose to do them all to max cap 60, well some have non-combat classes so they will still be weak in comparison to a Jarl with a combat class set on them. This is just to make it so they aren't pushover one shot kills like they were set at. I also plan on changing the equipment on many of the tougher Jarls to something more suiting to them than the average Jarl equipment they're all set on. If you compare this mod to my others, this will have about as much work done to it as my Housecarl one when I'm all finished with it.

I like stronger Yarls, however not all of them are mentioned to be fighters unlike Ulfric who was clearly on the streets at one point fighting for what he believed to be right, however the others only speak of tales and other stuff. Ulfric should be the only one stronger then anybody in his castle, however the others should still be enhanced but not quite as strong as their Main hand guard.

=/ mighter? ime pretty sure i respect a old nord man more than some youth slap joinet douche who hasent ruled . pretty sure the stormcloak side jarls need redone so they arnt as , facist. and dochy =p

haha great pic you have used here, Conan the Conquerer?

You're right the Jarls are extremely weak.

So, you changed Ulfric, eh? Interesting.

look good