Timbersaw Guide 7.04'd

Timbersaw is an EXTREMELY tanky hero and also a nuker.

He can be played in surprisingly all of the core roles.(Carry,Mid,Off)

His reactive armour (max level + Crimson Guard) makes him literally unkillable with right clicks.

Although he can fall prey to easy stuns,roots,nukes.

Personally I like to run him in the offlane.

Early Game

At the start of the game,I get a quelling blade,Stout Shield, a set of Tangoes, one Clarity Potion.Upgrade Stout Shield into PMS and get Arcane Boots and Soul Ring w/ a Magic Stick and Bottle(ONLY if you are going Mid) by ~8 mins.Then try ganking your own lane or rotate to find big kills and initiate into teamfights.

I skill Reactive Armour first (Mandatory) then max it along with Timber Chain after getting Chakram at level 6.Timber Chain helps him to initiate in and out of the fights also has an impressive damage.Whirling Death is very good skill but just level 1 has 15% stat loss, so does level 4 but the damage is good on it so max other two skills first.

Mid-Game(~25 mins)(Itemization)(Situational Items)

Trees

If you are against an agressive tri-lane and having a hard time, just forget about getting cs,just try to hide in the trees and leech xp.Max Reactive Armour and get Chakram to gank other lanes.

You should reach level 6 by ~9 mins if its an extreme tri-lane with lots of harass.
Play safe and gank other lanes.(Mid is strongly recommended).

If you get an easy laning phase with Timber along with farm to get his Bloodstone(EXTREMELY RECOMMENDED), then you should not worry much about the late game.Usually I get Bloodstone by ~14 mins. But if you still aren't able to get the Bloodstone by 20 mins(Maybe because of weak laning phase/agro tri-lane) then you should go for other items like Crimson Guard or Lotus Orb or Pipe.Then go for Bloodstone.

If the enemies have heavy damage dealers like TerrorBlade/Huskar/Ursa then opt for Crimson Guard ,Hex(Scythe Of Vyse) or BladeMail.(P.S. BladeMail can work well if u get an Octraine too.)

Get Pipe only if the enemies have nukers like Zeus/Skywrath/Puck/QoP/Lion/Lina/Invoker.
Get Lotus Orb/Linkens if enemies have a strong single target Ability/Items like Track/Corrosive Haze/ Dagon/Omnislash/E-Blade.

Get BKB ONLY if the game is getting ultra late and u aren't being that Durable/Tanky and are being targeted by the enemies first.

Get Dagon with E-Blade if the game is too ez and its a guaranteed win.

My ultimate 6-slotted build.

Bloostone,Pipe of Insight,Scythe of Vyse,Crimson Guard,Lotus Orb, Blink Dagger.
(Always carry BoT in the backpack if the game is over 40 mins and one of the teams have Mega creeps advantage.)

Heroes that counter Timbersaw

Now I will talk about heroes that are very good against Timbersaw.( BAN THEM)


1 .Lion (He's the complete package, has stuns, mana drains,disables,nukes) try not picking Timber against him unless you are confident or its an easy loss if Lion is aggressive on you early game.

2. OD(Imprisonment,Orb Damage,Sanity's Eclipse. RIP mana)

3. CM(Slow,Root,Nuke)

4. Treant(Slow,Root)

5. Nyx(2x Stuns,Mana Burn,Ult DMG)

6. Doom(Disable)

7. Silencer,Drow and any other hero who has a long silence.

8. Shadow Shaman(Shackle/Disable/Nuke)

9. Faceless Void (Time Dilation/Time Walk)

10. Skywrath Mage (HEAVY Nukes)

11. Kunkka/Disruptor (They can counter his Timber Chain and call him back)

Heroes that work well with Timbersaw

Heroes good with Timbersaw (Must have them on your team!)

Although Timber can be countered by stuns,roots,disables, these weaknesses can become his strength if he has them on his team. Basically any stunner/disabler.


1. CM (Root,Nuke)

2. Lion / Nyx (stuns, mana drains,disables,nukes)

3. Enigma (Blackhole + 2 Chakrams with Aghs )

4. Magnus (RP + 2 Chakram with Aghs)

5. Shadow Shaman (Disables + Shackle )

6. Oracle / Omniknight ( Can keep him alive throughout the Teamfight + Nukes)

Heroes that suck against Timbersaw

Heroes which are very bad against him ( Pick Timbersaw if you see enemies pick more than 2 heroes of what I'm going to mention below)
1. Natures Prophet ( ♥♥♥♥ Trees,Thats Why and also treants don't do much damage to him thus gaining him reactive armour stacks.)
2. Treant ( I know that I have also mentioned him as a counter but if there's no trees, where will he hide?)
3. Broodmother/Beastmaster and basically any hero who is a heavy pusher and can summon stuff.
4. Alchemist/Invoker/Zeus/Any Other Typical Squishy Mid Hero (These heroes are very squishy early game but can be a threat to him if not ganked/shut down.)
5. Meepo (AoE damage on all of his active skills + reactive armour + Crimson Guard so he shouldn't be a problem.)
6. Phantom Lancer/AM/TerrorBlade (These heroes have abilities/items to get illusions, you can very well counter them as illusions take 200% more damage.)

7. Phantom Assassin ( Phantom Assassin is a hero with moderate HP pool, and usually appears in the front line of battle. Thus she is a vulnerable target for all Timbersaw's skills.)

8. Monkey King (He can be stunned for a long time if Timber finds him in the trees,which can be an easy kill for him.)

Items that counter Timbersaw

Now I will talk about items that make Timbersaw Paper/Waste Late game.

1. Orchid of Malevolence - Silence will just make him nothing but more like a meele creep.

2. BKB - It's the only item that triggers me when I'm on Timbersaw and enemy picks it. Not a SINGLE SKILL GOES THROUGH AVATAR.

3. Scythe of Vyse - An effective way of silencing Timbersaw, as its cast time is instantaneous and difficult to be reacted against.

4. Diffusal Blade - Drains Timbersaw's mana, cancelling out his mobility.

5. Silver Edge - Breaks Reactive Armor's passive bonuses, preventing Timbersaw from building up stacks.

6. Necronomicon - Mana burn makes Timbersaw run out of fuel relatively quickly, but can also make him accidentally kill himself from the Necronomicon Warrior's Last Will.