Total War: SHOGUN 2

Total War: SHOGUN 2

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Jul 12, 2014 @ 3:18pm
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Kneel Fire for Matchlocks

Description
This Mod enables the kneel fire ability for all matchlock units for the sengoku campaign.

You have to research "Attack by Fire" for this.


NOTE:

the KNEEL FIRE ABILITY (not to be confused with the FIRE BY RANK ABILITY) is the ability all the gun units have in THE FALL OF THE SAMURAI.

This enables kneel fire also for matchlocks in sengoku. the symbol pops up over the unit cards. You can chose ingame which fire mode you want to have.


ATTENTION
MOST LIKELY you must already own the FOTS DLC. I don't know if it works without the FOTS DLC. I don't think so, but maybe. I didn't check.



WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?

FIRE BY RANK: The ability the matcholocks already have. The first rank shoots, then kneels down, then the second shoots and kneels down, then the third rank shoots.

KNEEL FIRE: The ability from FOTS. This animation is MUCH smoother, meaning, that the units can fire much FASTER. very useful in land battles, when the enemy chareges you, and you use fire by rank, often your units cannot land a single shot before being charged.
with kneel fire, ONLY THE FIRST TWO RANKS CAN SHOOT. But the animation is much smoother, the shooting starts much faster. In the end, they could land about 4 shots, while the fire by rank can only shoot 3 times before the enemy got them.


best you try it out in a custom battle so you can compare it directly.


UPDATE
I tested around a bit, and it seems (for me), that also when a matchlock unit is in no special mode, ALL of the rows can shoot WHEN they have a clear sight. (third rows will only have some units shooting, because sometimes they would hit your own units.

the Fire by rank ability seems to be WORSE than "normal mode", because the kneeling takes much time, resulting in less shots than the less organised "normal" mode. I didn't test this, but i have the strong impression it is like this.

the Kneel Fire seems to be pretty much the same like normal, with the difference that the first line kneels down first. Altough this, they seem to be FASTER to land the first shots (but only some milliseconds). And if my theory is true, the kneel fire should land more shots, because the second row can always shoot, while in normal mode the second row is sometimes blocked by units in front of them.
Note: In the description, it states that kneel fire would only allow the first 2 rows to shoot, in practice this is not true. Don't be confused ;)


I DID NOT TEST IT VERY INTENSIVELY, I FOUND FOR ME I PREFER THIS SHOOTING MODE (also for the style xD )
However do as you like.

PS: The unit on the left is using kneel fire, while the unit on the right is in "normal" mode.



comments and your personal experience are appreciated !!! Yes please, i'm looking forward to them :)))


- Vandal
56 Comments
Ioseb Dec 12, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
matchlock samurai can kneel fire but not matchlock ashigaru?
ODIN Dec 13, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
Tried this out in custom battle, no other mods active so no interference, and while my gunners do fire faster than before, it seems they only manage to get 2 rounds in the enemy before they're attacked.

I don't know if you've also increased their loading times but that seems to be the cause of the issue; after two rows have fired their volley, the unit is locked in the reloading animation for far too long, until they inevitably get charged and I have to pull them out.

Does this mean I have to have FotS installed for it to work properly or maybe I'm missing something else?
Tora Oct 13, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
I'd probably move this to Gunpowder Mastery, after testing it out some more. Matchlocks should be good, but maybe not this insanely good.
Soba361 Sep 4, 2023 @ 6:46am 
update?
jordandewig Sep 4, 2023 @ 12:36am 
please update
Rök'n'Stön Oct 18, 2022 @ 5:39am 
Does this work for DLC factions like Otomos and Ikko Ikki?
clop1000 Aug 21, 2022 @ 9:45am 
doesn't work for otomo
Buduler Jun 15, 2022 @ 3:54am 
It works fine with vanilla S2TW. This mod make matchlock unit very powerful thx!:cozybethesda:
Brondos Feb 13, 2022 @ 3:54am 
Thanks for making such a great mod, I modified it so that i unlocks with the first military tech for personal use, is it ok if I upload my version to the workshop?
Clock Goblin Jul 11, 2021 @ 8:07am 
doesn't work for otomo