MAX SURVIVAL SPECIAL

This is how to achieve maximum negative effect on you special stats. This may be useful if you want more than 10 SPECIAL, but you play on survival and cannot use the console.

Introduction

You can get much more SPECIAL stats than 10 without console and mods. Today we will get there together in this guide. Please fasten your seatbelts!

Warning

This guide uses glitches and may completely corrupt you game enjoyment, if you are conservative please close this guide.

You're SPECIAL!

As you propably know the only basic way how to get stats over 10 is take bobblehead 10+1=11, but there is "You're SPECIAL!" child book in your home under the crib which can raise you stats up to ten.

This book can be duplicated, every copy let you increase one of your skill. With this knowledge we can go over the max cap once we temporarily lowered our SPECIAL with:

- Armor
- Alcohol
- Drugs
- Survival negative effects

As far as i know drug addiction negative effects cannot be used in order to get stats over maximum, but i never tested it.

You need to learn how to duplicate.

I prefer to do this with conveyor belts, you can even make automatic circuit. I recommend to see this method on youtube. Let me explain it in a short way. If you drop someting on runing conveyor belt which have at the end conveyor storage attached to it, you can take the droped item just before is stored, then you get one free copy. This is variation of dogmeat duplication method.

Negative Effects List

STRENGTH 18

-6 Incapacitated (Survival Max Sleep Debuff)
-2 Day Tripper (Drug)

PERCEPTION 99

-7 Severely Dehydrated (Survival Max Thirst Debuff)
-5 Fury (Drug)
-7 Drugged Water (Effects are stacking, can be duplicated to infinite)

ENDURANCE 22

-10 Starving (Survival Max Hunger Debuff)
-2 Overencumbered

CHARISMA 17-18

-5 Starving (Survival Max Hunger Debuff)
-2 Daddy-O (Drug)
-1 Liam's glasses (Headwear) NOT TESTED YET

INTELLIGENCE 24

-10 Severely Dehydrated (Survival Max Thirst Debuff)
-4 Dirty Wastelander with Party Boy Rank 2

AGILITY 16

-4 Incapacitated (Survival Max Sleep Debuff)
-2 Overencumbered

LUCK 20

-3 Starving (Survival Max Hunger Debuff)
-3 Incapacitated (Survival Max Sleep Debuff)
-3 Severely Dehydrated (Survival Max Thirst Debuff)
-1 Tattered Rags (Clothing)

Recommendations

Perception

I recommend to completely avoid Drugged water and Fury.

The maximum potential of PERCEPTION bonus is at 10 for 95% V.A.T.S. accuracy.
Even if you are heavily debuffed you have really good reserve. And you dont have to go search this messy water, cook or find Fury drug.

- 12 Debuff = 22 Perception - No Drugged Water + Fury + Severely Dehydrated

- 07 Debuff = 17 Perception - No Drugged Water + No Fury + Severely Dehydrated


Inteligence

Consider stay only with -10 Debuff, Alcohol Addiction can boost yout damage on Legendary Weapons with Junkie prefix.


Bobbleheads

Do not start collecting Bobbleheads until you maxed your stats with this method.

Phase One

Max your stats to ten.

Phase Two

Sit on chair and wait until you are totaly dehydrated, hungry, sleepy, then fill your inventory with junk.

Have 30-50 stimpacks for healing. You will be periodicaly damaged.

At this point you can boost you stats without any stuff to:

STRENGTH 16
PERCEPTION 17
ENDURANCE 22
CHARISMA 15
INTELLIGENCE 20
AGILITY 16
LUCK 19

Ka-Ching! Now you are PURE MAXED SURVIVAL.

*** Personally, i prefer this build, giving me more sense, but its up to you :)

Phase Three

Go hunt missing stuff and level up you character to boost your juicy stats even more.


PERKS

Party Boy Rank 1 - Level 13
Party Boy Rank 2 - Level 15 - Doubling the effects of alcohol (including negative effects)

Chemist Rank 1 - Level 14
Chemist Rank 2 - Level 16 - If you wanna craft Fury


STUFF

Strength Debuff:
1x Day Tripper

Perception Debuff:
1x Fury
xx Drugged water (-1 Perception Debuff each)

Charisma Debuff:
1x Daddy-O
1x Liam's glasses - NOT TESTED YET

Intelligence Debuff:
1x Dirty Wastelander

• 1x Mutfruit
  
• 1x Nuka-Cola
  
• 2x Whiskey

Luck Debuff:
1x Tattered Rags

Phase Four

Go find Bobbleheads and eat the cherry on top.

STRENGTH 18

-6 Incapacitated (Survival Max Sleep Debuff)
-2 Day Tripper (Drug)

PERCEPTION 99

-7 Severely Dehydrated (Survival Max Thirst Debuff)
-5 Fury (Drug)
-7 Drugged Water (Effects are stacking, can be duplicated to infinite)

It's up to you, how much perception you need. Perception does, however, increase accuracy in V.A.T.S. by 10% per point invested into it, but V.A.T.S. accuracy cannot go above 95%.

ENDURANCE 22

-10 Starving (Survival Max Hunger Debuff)
-2 Overencumbered

CHARISMA 17-18

-5 Starving (Survival Max Hunger Debuff)
-2 Daddy-O (Drug)
-1 Liam's glasses (Headwear) NOT TESTED YET

Please let me know, if you tried Liam's glasses :)

INTELLIGENCE 24

-10 Severely Dehydrated (Survival Max Thirst Debuff)
-4 Dirty Wastelander (Alcohol) with Party Boy (Perk) Rank 2

Consider stay only with -10 Debuff, Alcohol addiction can boost yout damage on Legendary Weapons with Junkie prefix.

AGILITY 16

-4 Incapacitated (Survival Max Sleep Debuff)
-2 Overencumbered

LUCK 20

-3 Starving (Survival Max Hunger Debuff)
-3 Incapacitated (Survival Max Sleep Debuff)
-3 Severely Dehydrated (Survival Max Thirst Debuff)
-1 Tattered Rags (Clothing)

Thanks

Many thanks to reddit user u/Prid3 and his thread this guide is based on.

Original Thread:

PSA: You can have way higher than 10 in all stats without mods/console commands/cheats.

Duplication Circuit

*** UNDER CONSTRUCTION ***

[javilondo7469]

Yes Yistern, in fact, there's 8 different kinds of addictions in the game

[Yistern]

Can't you get even higher stats with addictions? Or do addictions not count toward the amount you can increase them?

[WitmenCz]

Thank you for a tip with the RadAway dshummelii, i will write it down to the list, when i will be playing.

[dshummelii]

Great guide, it helped a lot. Thanks!

Here's another trick I learned from another guide to further boost stats:
1. Be properly fed, hydrated, and "Well Rested."
2. Consume Food items that temporarily boost SPECIAL's, damage resistance (ballistic, energy, radiation, poison), maximum carry weight, health regeneration, or melee damage.
3. Consume RadAway.
4. Temporary Food buffs are now permanent. Sleep and repeat as desired.

I recommend not getting too carried away with the food buffs unless you like playing with TGM in non-survival games.

[John Pork]

I am shithead gaming the first

[Vitex]

very nice tutorial, it works thank you