Dominions 5

Dominions 5

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LA Jomon: Dragons and Ninjas
By Jake, from State Farm
A brief guide on LA Jomon
   
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Nation Description


This nation is set on Japanese lore and has a variety of unique game summons, ninja assassins, underwater fortresses with strong shrimp and shark warriors and the Ryujin dragon shapeshifting mage. LA Jomon nation is dependent on invading underwater provinces and creating forts to create early Ryujin and to conquer the seas. This nation has extremely high competition when it comes to water if LA Atlantis is in the game. Ranged units tend to be a problem with this nation because none of LA Jomon's units have shields.
Gem income: 1F1A1E1N
Strengths
  • Extremely strong recruitable Ryujin dragon shapeshifting sacred mages
  • Underwater recruitables are very strong, shrimp soldier and Crab General have void sanity (so they can fight in R'lyeh's dominion and not become insane)
  • Underwater shark warrior recruitable is insanely strong and make excellent body guards, they have two attacks with the first one having a length of 5! With a bite ;D grr
  • Heavily armored archers
  • Really good magic diversity with access to everything but blood
  • Ninja assassins that throw shurikens, these poison the commander to ensure successful assassination
  • Samurai weapons that have pierce and slash damage
  • Can recruit two of you national mages in certain terrains outside of fort if lab is present
Weaknesses
  • None of your units have shields so they are very vulnerable to arrows and crossbolts.
  • Your mages are inconsistent with magic paths and sometimes have one path in 4 different paths, making it hard to specialize or use more powerful spells
  • There is no easy way of getting into the water without using gems or using pretender
  • Using your own bowmen often means heavy friendly fire, making using archers seem counter productive
  • Only two recruitable sacred mages: the Ryujin and the Monk of the Fivefold Path
  • Cavarly is expensive and rarely worth recruiting because they don't have shields
Pretender Creation


These are the pretender chasses choices that you have. This part seems to be very difficult for many that choose this nation because they want a good bless with good scales and fast SC early expansion, but that is hard to create without tanking some scales. Some choose to have blesses focused on their mages, and others aim it towards their capital only units (which I never use).

Your scales should take at least one point of production because most of your units are resource intensive. I like to have one order sometimes so I can have more room to recruit my shark warriors and aka-oni samurai, but this is in no way needed. Growth would help in the long run when running into problems with income, luck gives you interesting heroes, one at least that can take units underwater with him. If you are very lucky or plan on using luck in your pretender creation, keep this hero in mind. Magic scales seem tremendously useful and can really help you with getting through levels in conjuration and having early battle mages. Strategies that are based on using shark warriors would be very resource and recruitment intensive, but may prove effective if supported with mages. I like for my bless to be strong with this nation and tank my luck and magic scales, and my bless being aimed towards my sacred mages because the two capital only sacred units seem usless compared to what one Ryujin could do.

In a briefer explanation: you should have production and growth at least. Depending on how strong you want your bless you can tank luck to misfortune by one or two and drain by one. Luck gives you gems, money and a total of three heroes. Only one of them is worth having because they have two water and has water breating (40), so twenty human soldiers.

I am going to show you two examples of pretenders I have made or seen be used that seem to be useful for LA Jomon.



This is one of the common ways to play this nation because it solves the problem with units not having to deal with arrows and getting into the water quickly to build a fort. People usually choose to take negative scales for more magic and blesses or for more production. I personally do not agree with this pretender type because it does not fit my playstyle, but it is quite game changing as soon as you build your first underwater fort and Ryujin. If you do choose this way to play, please keep in mind that your monks that have air can grant air shield on many squares each casting. That means the air shield bless is somewhat repeditive because your air monks can cast it on anyone. Any commander with one priest level and one air can do this very useful spell.

People like this fast way of playing but the Celestial Dragon is not too great without buffs, so it is possible that he may die if sent out not scripted to do mistform, ethereal body or astral shield. Also keep in mind that fatigue may make him die early and be weak before being able to actually attack the enemy, try keeping his fatigue and any thug's fatigue below 30 before they hit battle or they will suffer stat penalties.



The Celestial General is a titan that is chosen for his three paths in magic and ability to have good blesses that can be focused on your sacreds. He is also a good SC when geared up but I would put some flying boots on him just in case he needs to run away. I have chosen him in the past when I want a good reinvigoration bless for my sacreds and sometimes a far caster too for the mages. Keep in mind that this pretender has a weakness because of it's low astral level. This makes him vulnerable to mind battles from other astral mages that have a chance to instantly kill him. I really like to have my bless focus around my Ryujin because they are the most useful mage you will have as LA Jomon.
Mages and Sacreds
This section will have sacreds and their pictures, along with each unit that LA Jomon has. The important underwater units first then the land.

The Ryujin



This guy is a beast. He can fly, shape shift into a dragon, has minor resistances to the elements and starts with three water and two random paths of air, fire, earth or nature with a ten percent chance of an extra path in one of those. This mage is the most important commander in your nation. This commander is also sacred.

All your nation's recruitable mages and the priest except the monks have a 10% chance of having an extra elemental path. Here are the mages and your recruitable sacreds.













Magic
La Jomon has access to every magic path except for blood, with death being accessed through a conjuration summon. There are 28 national spells for Jomon, that's a lot. All of your national spells are in conjuration and the five monk sacred spells that all your sacreds can cast if they have access to those paths. The paths and descriptions of each spell can be found on the dominions 5 inspector https://larzm42.github.io/dom5inspector/

The five signs are five sacred spells that should be used whenever possible because they are very useful and some may undermind them.

Teaching Sign 1H1N: Makes the commander increase all his paths in magic except for holy
Fear-not Sign 1H1A: Grants air shield at a range of 15 and an area of affect of 2 with an additional 2 squares per extra path. This spell is important because it can cover your nation's weakness.
Welcome Sign 1H1F: Charms a unit at a range of 5, magic resistance negates easily. If this spell doesn't fail, the unit joins your side.
Earth-touching Sign 1H1E: Instantly kills anything that is demon or undead at a range of 20 if passes through magic resistance. Magic resistance negates easily. It has 100 precision.
Meditation Sign 1H1W: This spell removes 15 fatigue on an area of effect inside the square of the caster.

Conjuration 5 spell contact nushi, this spell can only be cast in swamps.



This mage costs 25 water gems and can only be summoned in swamps. She cannot leave her home for long without dying, but she is a very powerful mage that can shapeshift into a giant snake. This is your only way to access death for your nation. If I have enough spare gems, I empower her in death to make skull mentors and cast death rituals. In the late game, you can empower her with fire and she can summon Dai Oni, from the EA version of this nation. This may not be a super exciting thing once you summon them because you dominion doesnt have turmoil so you have to find somewhere or somehow to increase unrest so they summon onis. But other than that they can be super cool because they are sacred and super powerful. But i'm not sure if summoning the most powerful Oni should be in conjuration 8, where I can just wait half a year or so to summon a titan.

There is a common theme with the national summons of this nation, not all summonable commanders but a couple lose magical power when they leave the province they were summoned in: Yama-no-kami, Ujigami, Mori-no-kami and the Kaijin (when leaves the sea).

If you are a fan of EA Yomi, you can summon the Dai Oni and all the Onis through conjuration if you have a mage with death and fire, which you don't. Only the Nushi has death and she can summon Onis if she is empowered with fire.
Strategies
The main goal for LA Jomon is for them to get into water usually and use their Ryujin and shark warriors to kill everything. This is hard because the waters are usually contested by the water nations that will be rude and claim you stole their water. So most games you should prepare yourself to get into the water somehow, whether it be by SC pretender, items, mercs or one of your national heroes.

After you get into the water, everything gets a lot cooler with your new capabilities. You get to recruit your Ryujin, which I like to thug up and sent out with crab general thugs and take stuff because it makes me laugh and works, so win-win.

Summary of priorities:
1. Get into the water, build a fort, lab and temple in it
2. Start making Ryujin mages in water fort and conquer as much water as possible
3. Make a fort that is dedicated to making ninjas to assassinate enemy commanders (for taking over indie provinces and detering enemy expansion)

It would be smart to invest in a dwarven hammer early in the game when possible and give it to a mage that can forge many ice brands, vine shields and a reinvigorating item. Regeneration rings are pretty nifty to have too and important, but not necessary unless solo thugging. You can have a nature mage behind your Crab General and cast regeneration on him and protection, just remember he is a crab so he is slow and has a hard time getting to the front lines sometimes. Your Ryujin and Crab Generals are pretty thugable and can really help you out a lot in supporting your armies. The only thing you should really be afraid of when you send these guys out is facing anything that tramples units (undead Behemoth) and LA Atlantis units because they have magical weapons and are cold resistant. Their sacreds also have weapons that weaken whoever they hit, which is really bad for thugs.

Thug examples







LA Atlantis is a pain to deal with because they have units that are cheap with some resource intensive really elite units. They are also cold resistant so they pretty much have one over you in every way, including being in the water faster and easier than you. I have heard that when certain nations are played that they feel like are a direct counter, that they will lose and should restart the game. I ask that you reconsider, and face this challenge, so you can learn from your mistakes and be a better dominions player.

If you are having trouble fighting them underwater, invest in evocation 5 and use the spell poison cloud. You might need to use another spell to not kill your own units from being poisoned. Poison does not affect undead, so you would need a way to kill their undead that they raise. This is another unfortunate weakness that you have: no underwater recruitable priests. There will have to be priests or mage priests sent underwater with water breathing items to help fight the undead if needed. The evocation 6 spell 'cleansing water' is a water spell that does damage to many undead and demons each cast.
Hints, Tips and Tricks
  • Give your ninjas, commanders and mages shields so they can protect themselves from the stray arrows and have a better chance of survival
  • Remember that your units do not have shields and can be shot down by your own units. Keep this in mind in the battle/unit placement setup
  • Your Ryujin have a temporary water gem from their burning pearl, take advantage of this fact so you can have them use higher water magic spells or conjure a water elemental each battle
  • Your Ninjas can scale walls, this means they can assassinate commanders during a siege
  • Your monks are incredibly useful in protecting your units and covering up your national weaknesses. Take advantage of the five types of monks and use them where you can
  • Conjuration 6 has a national death three ritual spell for LA Jomon called summon Gozu Mezu that summons two different very powerful demon units. They are heavily armored and have a length 3 soul catcher magical weapon. One of the demons has a gore attack in addition to the soul catcher
4 Comments
windrider03 Mar 17, 2022 @ 5:37am 
The easiest way to get into the water early is to pick awake Python, but that means important sacrifices in other areas. Great disciple nation though. Second best is to overbid amphibious mercenaries. No sacrifice in pretender build but chancy.
clarkeveritas Sep 2, 2021 @ 7:10pm 
Well, I've been playing all SP and playing very slow and deliberate so what I've been doing would be likely useless against other players. I imagine MP has a much quicker pace.... once I get good with a couple of nations I might try an MP game or two. My current game's goal was to set up an unassailable solid core group of territories (done through Gift of Health and enough temples to get my Max Dominion to 15- all my troops have double HP) and explore all those neat spells that I never had a chance to use before.

Now that I'm looking at a few pages my favorite caster- the Miko- I think is an addition from the modpack I'm using. Forget the name but it's a popular one that includes a bunch of new spells/units and improves the AI combat decisions.
Jake, from State Farm  [author] Sep 2, 2021 @ 7:13am 
if you have any tips or tricks or advice post it here :) @clarkeveritas
clarkeveritas Sep 2, 2021 @ 2:18am 
I know this is a post from a while ago- but somewhat recently got Dominions 5 and I've been absolutely loving Jomon. I'm using a mod that adds more spells so not sure if this is in vanilla- but I've got something called Miko Ritual or something like that that turns the Mikos into Sacred 3 All Elements Caster, which then summons VERY powerful ethereal units sometimes when preaching. I've been doing SP so I've had time to build up resources and play around with all the different cool summons and abilities (the Insane Titan Summoning and Astral Rift one are terrific).