Syping の投稿を引用：

A suggestion: Devs should disclosure too if their Anti Cheat runs after booting the PC
Or if the Anti Cheat just runs while playing the game
For example: Kernel Level Anti Cheat (Runs as a service) vs (Runs while playing)
It's a big difference in privacy when a Anti Cheat is still running when not playing the game

Not a bad suggestion i think, though the wording might need correcting a bit: even if it’s a service — there are Manual and Automatic startup types. So "Runs while playing" and "Runs on PC startup", something along those lines.

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

Syping の投稿を引用：

A suggestion: Devs should disclosure too if their Anti Cheat runs after booting the PC
Or if the Anti Cheat just runs while playing the game
For example: Kernel Level Anti Cheat (Runs as a service) vs (Runs while playing)
It's a big difference in privacy when a Anti Cheat is still running when not playing the game

Can you even modify the kernel when the PC is already running? I'd imagine that all anticheats are always resident in memory.

AFAIK what matters if the anti-cheat requires elevated mode or not, i.e. runs with admin rights then it’s considered kernel-mode, it does not have to be resident, and AFAIK you can use injection even when PC is already running. Injection is a form of modifying too.
For example, Genshin Impact uses kernel-level anticheat which does not require separate installation/uninstallation, it only runs together with the game’s .exe, but requires elevated mode, so a regular user would not be able to play it.

Prezidentas の投稿を引用：

Syping の投稿を引用：

A suggestion: Devs should disclosure too if their Anti Cheat runs after booting the PC
Or if the Anti Cheat just runs while playing the game
For example: Kernel Level Anti Cheat (Runs as a service) vs (Runs while playing)
It's a big difference in privacy when a Anti Cheat is still running when not playing the game

Can you even modify the kernel when the PC is already running? I'd imagine that all anticheats are always resident in memory.

Yes, all modern OSes are capable of loading and unloading kernel modules while already booted up. NVIDIA uses this during graphics driver updates.

Another Valve/Steam W… Thank You!

Would be great, if we could filter said games and/or put them onto the ignore list.

JIN の投稿を引用：

Another Valve/Steam W… Thank You!

Would be great, if we could filter said games and/or put them onto the ignore list.

They probably don't want to add such a filter for legal reasons.

Crashed の投稿を引用：

JIN の投稿を引用：

Another Valve/Steam W… Thank You!

Would be great, if we could filter said games and/or put them onto the ignore list.

They probably don't want to add such a filter for legal reasons.

It'd also incentivize lying on the form if telling the truth would result in less visibility in some cases.

Ben Lubar の投稿を引用：

Crashed の投稿を引用：

They probably don't want to add such a filter for legal reasons.

It'd also incentivize lying on the form if telling the truth would result in less visibility in some cases.

Just as someone pointed out a game didn't advertise it has Denuvo because of all the hate there, and of course all the rumors of harm it allegedly causes to PCs or privacy.

Feature Request: Store search needs a related filter to exclude ' [-] ' kernel anti-cheat and such.

Crashed の投稿を引用：

Just as someone pointed out a game didn't advertise it has Denuvo because of all the hate there, and of course all the rumors of harm it allegedly causes to PCs or privacy.

If shopping with a webbrowser, the "Augmented Steam" extension (created by IsThereAnyDeal.com) show an obvious red box at the top of the product info for 3rd Party DRM. For example, when I visit "Just Cause 4 Reloaded", I see this:

So with Steam's new DRM declarations, we will need a filter to leverage it.

retrogunner の投稿を引用：

Feature Request: Store search needs a related filter to exclude ' [-] ' kernel anti-cheat and such.

As already mentioned prior, unlikely to happen.

retrogunner の投稿を引用：

Crashed の投稿を引用：

Just as someone pointed out a game didn't advertise it has Denuvo because of all the hate there, and of course all the rumors of harm it allegedly causes to PCs or privacy.

If shopping with a webbrowser, the "Augmented Steam" extension (created by IsThereAnyDeal.com) show an obvious red box at the top of the product info for 3rd Party DRM. For example, when I visit "Just Cause 4 Reloaded", I see this:

Warning: This title uses 3rd-party DRM (Denuvo Anti-Tamper).

So with Steam's new DRM declarations, we will need a filter to leverage it.

That is the extension messing with the CSS to make it look worse than it really is.

Crashed の投稿を引用：

retrogunner の投稿を引用：

If shopping with a webbrowser, the "Augmented Steam" extension (created by IsThereAnyDeal.com) show an obvious red box at the top of the product info for 3rd Party DRM. For example, when I visit "Just Cause 4 Reloaded", I see this:

Warning: This title uses 3rd-party DRM (Denuvo Anti-Tamper).

So with Steam's new DRM declarations, we will need a filter to leverage it.

That is the extension messing with the CSS to make it look worse than it really is.

Weird that the extension does that when the page already contains a warning (yellow box in the right-hand column) with this text:

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamper

Ben Lubar の投稿を引用：

Crashed の投稿を引用：

That is the extension messing with the CSS to make it look worse than it really is.

Weird that the extension does that when the page already contains a warning (yellow box in the right-hand column) with this text:

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamper

The extension moves it front and center and makes it look bad. I'm sure as a Steamworks developer you know that if a publisher pushes actual malware that Valve would take them down in short order.

After this information is filled in, Is there a way to locate the games in my library which have kernel-level anti-cheat without going to each game's store page?

kalirion の投稿を引用：

After this information is filled in, Is there a way to locate the games in my library which have kernel-level anti-cheat without going to each game's store page?

Likely not. That warning is intended to inform you before you buy/add the game in case it’s important for you. If you’ve already bought the game — well, not much you can do if you’re past refund limit.

valve の投稿を引用：

Players often find it reassuring to know when a game has an anti-cheat system in place

when a player sees "VAC" they start laughing and crying at the same time. Very reassuring indeed.