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24 oct. 2023 la 16:36
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Noi prețuri necesare pentru Argentina și Turcia până pe 20 noiembrie
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Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Postat inițial de ah_puch:

I did. You have no clue what it means to have USD as currency in those two countries and you never will.



Regional pricing is ABSOLUTELY being removed. No one and I mean no one will pay for a $70 game even if it's down to $45-50 with this "regional pricing". That's like 5 times more expensive compared to non-USD pricing.

Would you pay $350 for a $70 game? Considering income to purchase ratio in those countries, would you pay $650 for a $70 game?

I though you said regional pricing wasn't removed no?

Which one is it?


wtf are you talking about? 650$ for a 70$ game??


> Regional pricing is ABSOLUTELY being removed. No one and I mean no one will pay for a $70 game even if it's down to $45-50 with this "regional pricing".

Where are you getting this from? did Steam say they will remove regional pricing? read the article as I suggested. Also, you can't really talk for everyone else what they can and can't buy.
Regional pricing is officially not being removed and Steam still uses recommended prices.

But the problem is companies do not care about these regional pricing. Steam still had regional pricing before this change and there were still recommendations.

For instance, $70 price game was recommended to be 595 TL but the last Call of Duty game price is 2000 TL (which is around $70.79).

But before, even if the companies did not apply these regional prices, when they didn't update the prices for a long time like a year or two, due to currency losing value, it was becoming $60, $50 etc. in time and becoming more affordable with especially sales combined with this.

But now, companies basically put $70 price tag immediately and it will stay like that! When our currency lose value, it will become even more expensive so even with sales, the price will be more for us!

While this is not the reason why I am thinking of switching to Playstation from PC, Majority of users will not be able to afford any game leave the platform!

Another thing is banks overcharge us when we buy something with a foreign currency. There is currency exchanfe difference like $1 = 28 TL but banks sell it from 29 TL which makes it more expensive for us! And this difference becomes even higher during value losing times and also there are taxes if we buy something with USD.

And another thing, when we buy something with USD with a credit card, we pay it at the end of the month (or whenever you pay). For instance, you buy a game in October 1 and you pay your credit card debt in October 28. For instance, 1 USD = 28 TL on October 1 and then become 35 TL, you pay it from 35 TL!

So you buy a $70 game thinking it will cost 1960 TL but you have to pay 2450 TL now instead! We can't know the currency situation. Nobody will want to take this risk including me. So what I will do is completely abandon this platform and only play the games I bought beforehand only.
Here in Mexico 🇲🇽 we support this new change. Well done, Steam 💪🏻.
Steam who?
Huh.
Guess I'll just buy any online coop I want before 20th, and will move to Epic games.
The devs do set the price, but that would not do any good. They don't care about regional pricing.
Editat ultima dată de Ebrahimi; 4 nov. 2023 la 7:29
International pricing is a nightmare lol
I can either sell my game in Vietnam for .0045 cents a copy, or not at all.
Argintina is less bad, but I only make 2 bucks on each sale instead of 7. We need a single international currency; but that isn't going to happen based on how all over the place each nations economy is.

In the end it hurts game devs AND customers. Customers have to live in terrible countries with low wages, and devs have to live in developed countries with high costs of living.

I am keeping my game on their markets just because, but I don't really make any money off the sales, especially Vietnam, I might as well just make my game free there with how little I make from a sale.
New Pricing, does that mean only the currency will be changed or also the price
Postat inițial de Yuniac:
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reason to pay normal price for games, not 10x less with no reason for this :)


> not 10x less with no reason for this :)

First of all, educate yourself before you run your mouth. Games weren't 10 times less then their american price. Secondly, games in those regions are cheaper FOR a reason, because people in those regions can't possibly afford to buy games in their standard 60$, for various reasons due to their country's currency and economy, etc.

I don't understand why do people who don't live in any of the mentioned regions nor know anything about the topic want to insert their ignorant opinion.
You educate moron... Salary in my country is 8x less like people in germany but my country have the same prices in euro for very long time... now we have PLN but prices in PLN is the same like in Euros for most games... sometimes even higher...
Editat ultima dată de pelikulas; 5 nov. 2023 la 14:10
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Postat inițial de Yuniac:


> not 10x less with no reason for this :)

First of all, educate yourself before you run your mouth. Games weren't 10 times less then their american price. Secondly, games in those regions are cheaper FOR a reason, because people in those regions can't possibly afford to buy games in their standard 60$, for various reasons due to their country's currency and economy, etc.

I don't understand why do people who don't live in any of the mentioned regions nor know anything about the topic want to insert their ignorant opinion.
You educate moron... Salary in my country is 8x less like people in germany but my country have the same prices in euro for very long time... now we have PLN but prices in PLN is the same like in Euros for most games... sometimes even higher...


So wtf are you talking about? what is 'not 10x times less'? do you know what the original topic of this thread even?

But I should have known better and not replied to someone with that pfp to begin with
Postat inițial de Yuniac:

wtf are you talking about? 650$ for a 70$ game??

I'll make it simple for you. I will even shed the use of currencies since it's confusing for you.

Let's say you earn 6000 a month. Steam's regional pricing meant you could buy a new game for 80-100. With these changes, you will pay 2400-2500 instead of 80-100 because of switching to USD.

That's about a 30x price increase overnight.


Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Where are you getting this from? did Steam say they will remove regional pricing? read the article as I suggested.

So, a price hike of 30x means they aren't removing regional pricing? Do you know what regional pricing means?

Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Also, you can't really talk for everyone else what they can and can't buy.

I sure can. No one in Argentina or Turkey will buy any games at USD. Simple as that.

Why are you trying to chime in when you don't even know anything about these two economies?
Editat ultima dată de ah_puch; 6 nov. 2023 la 3:48
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You educate moron... Salary in my country is 8x less like people in germany but my country have the same prices in euro for very long time... now we have PLN but prices in PLN is the same like in Euros for most games... sometimes even higher...


So wtf are you talking about? what is 'not 10x times less'? do you know what the original topic of this thread even?

But I should have known better and not replied to someone with that pfp to begin with
most games in argentina region was 10x cheaper than in EU...
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Postat inițial de Yuniac:


So wtf are you talking about? what is 'not 10x times less'? do you know what the original topic of this thread even?

But I should have known better and not replied to someone with that pfp to begin with
most games in argentina region was 10x cheaper than in EU...

WAS
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Postat inițial de Yuniac:


So wtf are you talking about? what is 'not 10x times less'? do you know what the original topic of this thread even?

But I should have known better and not replied to someone with that pfp to begin with
most games in argentina region was 10x cheaper than in EU...

Talk for yourself then, not everyone lives in Argentina
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Postat inițial de Yuniac:

wtf are you talking about? 650$ for a 70$ game??

I'll make it simple for you. I will even shed the use of currencies since it's confusing for you.

Let's say you earn 6000 a month. Steam's regional pricing meant you could buy a new game for 80-100. With these changes, you will pay 2400-2500 instead of 80-100 because of switching to USD.

That's about a 30x price increase overnight.


Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Where are you getting this from? did Steam say they will remove regional pricing? read the article as I suggested.

So, a price hike of 30x means they aren't removing regional pricing? Do you know what regional pricing means?

Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Also, you can't really talk for everyone else what they can and can't buy.

I sure can. No one in Argentina or Turkey will buy any games at USD. Simple as that.



> I sure can. No one in Argentina or Turkey will buy any games at USD. Simple as that.

No, you cannot and no one can. You don't know what will happen to the prices let alone talking about people from two different countries lol

Why are you trying to chime in when you don't even know anything about these two economies?


Because you and others cant seem to be able to read. Who the ♥♥♥♥ said it will be 30x times more?

Prices will be in USD but will not (hasn't been confirmed or deconfirmed) be as much as the American Steam.

So yes, in USD but still at a regional price.
Editat ultima dată de Yuniac; 6 nov. 2023 la 8:20
Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Because you and others cant seem to be able to read. Who the ♥♥♥♥ said it will be 30x times more?

Prices will be in USD but will not (hasn't been confirmed or deconfirmed) be as much as the American Steam.

So yes, in USD but still at a regional price.
What I understood is this: the old prices for Turkey and Argentina were around what equals to $10 (which I think some publishers doubled a while ago because of inflations in those countries) for new AAA games that is priced at $60 in USA ..
But now seeing the new system starting Nov. 20th, the new prices that are being suggested by Valve the $60 in USA is $27 in those two regions

The second point is because you are not paying in your local currency; there will be extra fees for currency exchange. so if a game is sold for $27 in those regions you will be paying what equals to $29 or something like that because of those exchange fees.
Postat inițial de A.M.R.:
Postat inițial de Yuniac:
Because you and others cant seem to be able to read. Who the ♥♥♥♥ said it will be 30x times more?

Prices will be in USD but will not (hasn't been confirmed or deconfirmed) be as much as the American Steam.

So yes, in USD but still at a regional price.
What I understood is this: the old prices for Turkey and Argentina were around what equals to $10 (which I think some publishers doubled a while ago because of inflations in those countries) for new AAA games that is priced at $60 in USA ..
But now seeing the new system starting Nov. 20th, the new prices that are being suggested by Valve the $60 in USA is $27 in those two regions

The second point is because you are not paying in your local currency; there will be extra fees for currency exchange. so if a game is sold for $27 in those regions you will be paying what equals to $29 or something like that because of those exchange fees.


The prices in TURKEY were NOT 10$. Where do people get this info from? the prices varies, 5$, 10$, 20$, 30$, 40$, etc., up to the publisher. Idk how it is in Argentina. We merely had regional prices that publishers respected or not. Not 30x times less. Not 10$.

Yes there will be fees when you purchase something, that sucks no way about it, how much will it be idk though
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