Native SteamOS Netflix Support Soon?

[KingTurtle]

I read rumors that the official launch is only a few months away (September or October), but there doesn't seem to be any news as to the lack of a Netflix or Hulu native support (without work a rounds). If this is going to compete with consoles this an essential missing feature that needs to be addressed or approached soon. I am really looking forward to having SteamOS in my living room, but I need the Netflix and Hulu support made easy (like an application on a console).

[8BitCerberus]

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

Air eredeti hozzászólása:

That's not the point of this thread. You can't use chrome with a controller.

You can if you use keyboard and mouse emulation by using softwares such as antimicro (multi platform)

Yep, this works great. I'm actually using AntiMicro on my Steam Machine specifically for navigating Chrome and Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime and Plex with a wireless X360 pad. (I should mention I *would* be using my prototype Steam Controller for this, but support for it recently ended so it's just a mouse with a few keyboard buttons now, and I don't like the cable strung across the living room if I can't use it to it's fullest extent anymore. But come November I will be buying one (or probably two) and replacing my wireless X360 pad + AntiMicro with a wireless Steam Controller.)

Actually, I haven't messed with it yet, but the prototype Steam Controller does show up as configurable in AntiMicro. If it actually works, that's pretty exciting.

DigitalJesus eredeti hozzászólása:

I doubt it. I imagine if you were quite desperate you could use a general linux wine netflix install guide i.e. : http://www.howtogeek.com/119204/how-to-watch-netflix-on-linux/
You can thank me later if you wanna follow that guide ^, you don't have to wait on valve.

Netflix finally works natively in Chrome on Linux now, no need for the WINE Firefox install method.

ProfessorKaos64 eredeti hozzászólása:

That's why you follow my guide and add it as a "web app" to BPM. If you are launching Kodi then the Steam plugin in Kodi, I can't help you. I run Kodi , Netflix, Huku, and more just fine from SteamOS.

Brilliant guide, BTW! I tried it way back when SteamOS and IHS first hit, since Netflix wasn't yet working natively in Linux. It was... klunky as all hell, but it was working. Had Netflix, Hulu, et al streaming from my Windows/gaming PC to the Steam Machine downstairs in the living room.

Soon as Netflix went native I just started going to Chrome directly (added it as non-Steam game to my library, couldn't figure out adding the web apps, though admittedly I only gave it a few tries and said "screw it, bookmarks will be fine!" :)

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

It has been almost three months since gdc 2015 where Valve depended on third parties to report to us minions on their current focus with steam machines. This whole beta process has turned from a public beta to a closed beta; which is not what early announcements indicated would be the case.

How do you figure? SteamOS has been available for public download, I believe, since December 2013 when the first 300 prototype Steam Machines and Controllers were shipped out. Not sure how to make the beta any more public than that...

Problem is everyone missed the whole "beta" thing and just assumed it was going to have all this stuff built in from the get go. Valve needs people testing SteamOS and giving them useful feedback, not watching Netflix or Hulu.

I'll eat crow if there isn't a native SteamOS (and subsequently Steam Desktop since they're the same platform) Netflix, Hulu, et al available either at launch or soon after. I know Netflix in particular has been known to drag their heels, but I'm confident Valve has been wheeling and dealing with these content providers/distributors and getting them lined up for the launch window.

[ProfessorKaos64]

8-Bit Cerberus eredeti hozzászólása:

I'll eat crow if there isn't a native SteamOS (and subsequently Steam Desktop since they're the same platform) Netflix, Hulu, et al available either at launch or soon after. I know Netflix in particular has been known to drag their heels, but I'm confident Valve has been wheeling and dealing with these content providers/distributors and getting them lined up for the launch window.

True, if this doesn't happen, it will be quite disappointing. I will have to put in some swap in/out code for Antimicro/Xboxdrv in the launcher files for the web apps system I scripted. It's nothing special, but it speeds things up a bit. I couldn't have done it without the X window code that Sharkwouter, Ryochan7, and Dubigrasu discussed in a prior thread.

[KingTurtle]

Well we could provide feedback on how these applications run on their Operating System. People are getting annoyed with Windows because of the crappy marketing they find on a operating system they already purchased (remember when Bing Desktop was popping up in Windows Update?).

Although Steam OS will be free, it's expected to work with the hardware you purchased.

[^^Yule Nissen^^]

You can install google chrome. it have embedded support for netflix and other streaming solutions.

[ProfessorKaos64]

Spino^^ eredeti hozzászólása:

You can install google chrome. it have embedded support for netflix and other streaming solutions.

This was already discussed above and is not the point of the discussion. We want "native" support for these media sources, not "hacks" like I and others have done. It is okay for now, but I hope they do add support, come November. If you do use my GitHub repository, I have built in gamepad mouse / keyboard emulation for a few controller types now.

[Balderick]

Check this puppy out! http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-shield-android-tv-review-28385295/

How can a $200 arm device trump a steam machine? see the link above ;-)

Netflix - tick
Plex - tick
Play PC game titles natively - tick
Play PC titles using game streaming service - tick
Play PC titles on any screen in console mode - tick
Have access to all the apps and tools you are aquainted with for all your personal computing needs ootb - tick

so much more .... and all for $200 WOW

[KingTurtle]

That could be a reason why Nvidia at least doesn't care too much to fix Steam OS drivers. Now AMD? I have no clue since they actually should be interested for the APU builds (like the one I have on hold).

[Balderick]

tbh with that shield console it sort of nullifies a lot of what steamos was intended to be useful for as it simply far exceeds what steamos can do ootb! you can stream all your steam games from your current windows pc to the shield as streaming client regardless if that pc is windows or linux! http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/side.png image from link above ^
and all for less than half price of the lowest priced confirmed steam machine!

nvidia predicted years ago arm devices would encroach pc gamer space. That time is now!.

[TinMan1325]

KingTurtle eredeti hozzászólása:

Now AMD? I have no clue since they actually should be interested for the APU builds (like the I have on hold).

I agree. I'd like to build myself a Steam Machine with an AMD apu and a Thin Mini-ITX mobo, unfortunately they don't exist, as far as I know. I've only ever seen this http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=1548&CategoryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=186&LanID=0

KingTurtle eredeti hozzászólása:

I read rumors that the official launch is only a few months away (September or October)

To be honest, I would have thought some of those things would part of SteamOS by now, too but I guess it wouldn't make sense to do that just yet, seeing all the audio problems people are having. And yes, pretty sure October is supposed to be the month

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

Check this puppy out! http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-shield-android-tv-review-28385295/

Very interesting, indeed. And you bring up some good points as well

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

tbh with that shield console it sort of nullifies a lot of what steamos was intended to be

It kind of seems the market is so huge right now, anyone can turn a profit. I like competition and all, I just hope the gaming market doesn't become even more saturated with garbage in the future

[ProfessorKaos64]

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

tbh with that shield console it sort of nullifies a lot of what steamos was intended to be useful for as it simply far exceeds what steamos can do ootb! you can stream all your steam games from your current windows pc to the shield as streaming client regardless if that pc is windows or linux! http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/side.png image from link above ^
and all for less than half price of the lowest priced confirmed steam machine!

nvidia predicted years ago arm devices would encroach pc gamer space. That time is now!.

1. How do I upgrade it?
2. What happens when a part inside it breaks ever?
3. What happens if I only have 10 Mbps connection and want HD games?
4. How do I customize the OS?
5. How do I use other controllers with this?

[Balderick]

tbh i do not have answers for those questions (as of yet) and hate answering a question/s with a question but; Would a steam for arm client and a steamos arm port sound more appealing to you on such a machine?
i'll try to summarise or answer some of the points you raise though.

1. and
2. Nvidia provide software updates just like Valve do for steamos by autoupdates. Games will be updated by game devs just like in steamos. The machines hardware is "future proof" which removes the need to upgrade hardware as no current available software uses any where near the available computational and graphic processing power found in the nvidia shield tv/console
3. If you actualy had a look at that review i linked to that you quote or searched the web you would know the tegra x1 mobile superchip found in that machine supports 4K video for playing pc game titles natively ootb so that betters your HD video resolution.(i assume you meant 1080p and at 60 fps - which is what that review shows that thing is producing when using nvidia grid!!!!!) afaik 5Mbps internet connection is all that is needed for 1080p @ 60 fps gaming quality using nvidia grid the cloud game streaming service.
4. There are doubtless many things you can customise os wise and have all of the goodies found in google play store to choose from - which is a lot more than what alchemist repos currently provide.
5. Apparently that machine supports up to four controllers ootb just plug and play - simples

all of that and netflix, plex, google cast and so much more to choose from all optimised for use on the big screen. You can watch any movie, listen to any music and take the choice of a quickly expanding list of AAA pc game titles to choose from all ootb. No hacks, faffing about or stress involved - just plug and play.
For less than half the price of the lowest priced currently confirmed steam machine simply makes the nvidia shield tv/console food for thought for sure.

[ProfessorKaos64]

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

I personally can not see Valve depend on any third parties like Netflix for providing streaming of TV shows, music and movies simply due to the fact Valve are already in the business of digital distribution and are makers of software.

Valve eredeti hozzászólása:

Steam is always evolving and so will your living room with upcoming content like your favorite movies, TV shows and music.

http://store.steampowered.com/universe/steam/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S86iFpbVA8o

I know this is the last year model, which I thought they were coming out with a new device. I am not impressed. I'd rather have a GCW Zero. The specs aren't amazing but are fine for most games. I won't be playing big titles on that, and if I have to have a gaming PC with nice card, and a good wifi connection anyway, that's just not for me. If I wanted a more capable "3DS" that does a lot more, then maybe, but nah. I'd rather slap SteamOS on my gaming PC, and if* my connection was good enough, I'd pickup a Steamlink for 50 bucks. I don't game on the go much, otherwise I have my 3DS.

[Balderick]

you might be more impressed with nvidia shield TV specs which is a console. I linked to a review in post #21 ^ nvidia shield tv is not the portable shield not the tablet shield but nvidia shield tv which was released only yesterday after they were annaounced at gdc 2015 earlier this year. They blow the hand held portable things out of the water. The shield tablet is very impressive too though.

[ProfessorKaos64]

40-1PvtBalderick eredeti hozzászólása:

you might be more impressed with nvidia shield TV specs which is a console. I linked to a review in post #21 ^ nvidia shield tv is not the portable shield not the tablet shield but nvidia shield tv which was released only yesterday after they were annaounced at gdc 2015 earlier this year. They blow the hand held portable things out of the water. The shield tablet is very impressive too though.

Ah, i'll have to check out video reviews of that.

[madjr]

Netflix on SteamOS via the native Steam browser!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjUCuuDVqTo

Thanks HTML5! Probably the best solution for now till it gets a native app / launcher thingy.