Server Number: Can be on any server hosting Sequoia as a map
Map/Mission name: Sequoia
Wave number: Any
Time the bug happened: Any
Describe the bug: A weird clipping area you can get to on the main big tree at the end of the map where the robots come out, can be used as a potential cheese spot, and as far as I've seen, the robots will not target you from all the way up on this clipping spot

This spot also has the potential to be used to cheese sentry busters, too.

Any screenshots: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/976626742410712090/8E512D7BC95338A0CC1B6BAC453C5C0951769BB7/

Also sorry if this report isn't in the format that most others are (having actual server numbers, time, etc.) since this is a spot.

1:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454334778

2:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1089026871

3:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=808821399

4:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454159900

5:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1084992001

Originally posted by Hydrogen:

1. We nerfed downtown, we're checking if it's more sane right now. If all is well, it will get a big nerf tomorrow.

2 & 3. Like Addictedgamer said, the creator of the mission isn't the creator of the map. I'll pass this thread to Sntr (creator of downtown) for him to review.

Thanks for your feedback! One of the objectives of the tour is to get feedback of maps to mappers, in addition to providing something new for players to play. Thanks for taking the time to explain your thoughts!

Thanks, downtown is pretty hard and had me staying up until 3:00 AM to finish the first time i played it.

There are some to alot of things wrong with the map that I think need to be changed:

1. The difficulty level.
We can all agree that this map is almost impossible to do, hell, the last wave is easier than the wave before it, and yet it's rated "advanced" when it should really be "expert". To bring it down to an advanced level, however, I'd reconsider the speed on some of the robots, as it's easy to lose right off of the bat thanks to a faster than average heavy or soldier. I'd also reconsider the amount of them in certain waves as it can be very overwhelming for people, that is, unless you'd like to promote this mission to expert level instead of advanced level instead of changing, it can at least be a good resolution.

2. The wideness of it all.
The map is HUGE, but it's mainly wide as well. you're pretty much screwed when B is capped, since the robots tend to flank and spread out throughout the whole map, completely screwing up your team's defense. A solution to this is limiting the routes that can be taken from the robots, and also limiting the cap speed to a certain extent. Also consider making it to where 1 person can re-cap a point, but slower than 2 people, 3 people, etc.

3. Useless areas.
Contributing to the fact that the map is huge is the fact that there are a bunch of useless areas stuck into places players don't visit. This includes point B, since I didn't even know where B was on the map to begin with because of how overwhelming the map's places are. A solution to this is to get rid of these areas, and make it similar to being enclosed and simple like Rottenburg. I also suggest re-placing B at the area where 2-3 random robots spawn after B's original position is capped. The place where B originally was could be used as a windows for snipers or engies to peek out of instead as a suggestion.

Lemme know what you think about it too.