Please remove automatic filter when starting remote play

[Darkknight1812]

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From Valve's Slouken:
You can set the launch mode to Recent Games, Big Picture, or Desktop in the Steam Link Advanced Streaming Settings before you start streaming.

If you set the launch mode to Big Picture, it won't have the filter applied.

Also, please let us know what games work well, but aren't showing up in the filter.

Thanks!
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Original Post:
Everytime I start remote play now, it loads to my library with the "Remote Play Optimized" filter. This is annoying because I have a Steam Controller and I can play many games that are of yet optimized. I have over 1000 games yet only a handful are "optimized" so this filter is useless to me. I have to remove the filter to play my games which is now an extra step. If you are going to implement automatic filtering on launch, then please have an option to disable and have an option to customize the automatic filter(s).


Update: I have found that if you go into the advanced streaming options found on the Remote Play client, you can choose Big Picture mode. However, it still does not fix the broken filter.

[Menthalion]

Автор сообщения: Darkknight1812

Автор сообщения: Skip

But the next time you start the steam link it's back on. It didn't use to do that, which is why it's really annoying now

I have not had any problems with it reverting back with both the steam link and the android app. What version (beta or stable) for the link and host? I am using the beta versions for everything.

Can you please elaborate in your posts what you are referring back to ?

We're talking about the filter check box for Remote Play Optimized that keeps being reapplied at every restart of the Steam Link.

In your update to the OP you even mention that that's still the case. I have no idea what you refer to as being fixed, but you obviously seem to be talking about two different issues in one post.

It might help being a bit more explicit which issue you see as fixed.

[Darkknight1812]

Автор сообщения: Menthalion

Автор сообщения: Darkknight1812

I have not had any problems with it reverting back with both the steam link and the android app. What version (beta or stable) for the link and host? I am using the beta versions for everything.

Can you please elaborate in your posts what you are referring back to ?

We're talking about the filter check box for Remote Play Optimized that keeps being reapplied at every restart of the Steam Link.

In your update to the OP you even mention that that's still the case. I have no idea what you refer to as being fixed, but you obviously seem to be talking about two different issues in one post.

It might help being a bit more explicit which issue you see as fixed.

Yes, I had problems with the "Remote Play Optimized" filter applying every time I started a Steam Link session (which is why I created this discussion). However, I found that if you (on the client side so the Steam Link), go to advanced streaming options, there is a setting that allows you to change the initial view to Big Picture, instead of the filter.
As mentioned in mine and other posts, the filter itself is broken as it lists only a few games as being "Optimized" (we still do not know what "Optimized" means).

So there are two issues:
1. Streaming starts with the "Remote Play Optimized" filter on
Solution: Problem can be fixed by going into advanced streaming options on the client and selecting another mode.

2. "Remote Play Optimized" filter only has a few select games and cannot be changed by the user (it seems like developers have to set the flag: see steam dev post).

Now it seems a few users, not me, are experiencing another problem:
1. A. Even after setting the option in advanced streaming options to something besides the "Remote Play Optimized" filter, the setting is not saved between sessions

[Exel]

Автор сообщения: Darkknight1812

Solution: Problem can be fixed by going into advanced streaming options on the client and selecting another mode.

I don't have such an option in my Steam Link settings. Not in Big Picture mode and not in device settings. These are the only advanced streaming options I can find and they are in device settings, not in Steam:

- Recent games
- TV mode
- Desktop

Changing the filter from "Remote Play Optimized" to anything else like "Ready to Play" doesn't help either, because the setting reverts back to "Remote Play Optimized" every time Steam Link is shut down and restarted.

[SCAREGRYLLS]

Please fix this. Consider letting us choose are own automatic filters or none.

[Aurora Skye]

It's quite simple the change everyone wants.

Disable the filter by default.
Or allow our decision to persist sessions.

[Gibor]

Автор сообщения: slouken

Please let us know what games should be included in the filter, and we'll talk to the developers. You can set the default view back to Big Picture or stream your desktop from the advanced streaming settings on the client.

Thanks!

Users: This filter is stupid, we don't want it, let us turn it off!

Valve: Please tell us, which games we should add to this useless list.

[Nadix [zapasowe]]

+1

[slouken]

You can set the launch mode to Recent Games, Big Picture, or Desktop in the Steam Link Advanced Streaming Settings before you start streaming.

If you set the launch mode to Big Picture, it won't have the filter applied.

Also, please let us know what games work well, but aren't showing up in the filter.

Thanks!

[dareepa]

Автор сообщения: slouken

You can set the launch mode to Recent Games, Big Picture, or Desktop in the Steam Link Advanced Streaming Settings before you start streaming.

If you set the launch mode to Big Picture, it won't have the filter applied.

Also, please let us know what games work well, but aren't showing up in the filter.

Thanks!

This post needs to be pinned to the top of this discussion. I'd been hearing that the feature could be disabled, but never knew how until I read this.

[Darkknight1812]

I updated my post before, I am guessing few reached the bottom. I placed an update at the beginning now. Hopefully more people will read it.
To Slouken:
What does it mean by "Remote Play Optimized"? So far every game I play "works well" as I use a Steam Controller.

[YenaHena]

Автор сообщения: slouken

Please let us know what games should be included in the filter, and we'll talk to the developers. You can set the default view back to Big Picture or stream your desktop from the advanced streaming settings on the client.

Thanks!

Wow! Did you even read the previous posts? When in Big Picture mode using Steam Link, we are asking for the filter to be automatically turned off by default (or the option to do so), not to add games to the list.

[austinp_valve]

@YenaHena

There looks to be a miscommunication here, Slouken has already shipped the option to turn off the Remote Play Optimized library filter in the Steam Link UI. To do this:

 Go Settings->Streaming->Advanced in the Steam Link App or on Steam Link HW and change the "Launch Mode" setting to "Big Picture". You can also re-enable the library filter by setting it to "Recent Games".

I will mark this post as the Answer so that folks can immediately see the way to turn it off if they find this thread. Thanks!

[LoupDuQc]

Автор сообщения: austinp_valve

@YenaHena

There looks to be a miscommunication here, Slouken has already shipped the option to turn off the Remote Play Optimized library filter in the Steam Link UI. To do this:

 Go Settings->Streaming->Advanced in the Steam Link App or on Steam Link HW and change the "Launch Mode" setting to "Big Picture". You can also re-enable the library filter by setting it to "Recent Games".

I will mark this post as the Answer so that folks can immediately see the way to turn it off if they find this thread. Thanks!

That's a nice bypass of the filter, but it's still not a solution to the actual issue.
Other users want to be able to see their games without having the filter being forced on directly when they open the application, not to be sent on a page where the filter can't be applied and then have to go to their game list.
This solution doesn't solve the issue of a highly WIP filter being forced on the user when starting on the recent game page.

[Menthalion]

@austinp_valve This isn't a solution, just a workaround at best. It's plain bad UX design that you have to disable a filter three layers deep in the technical bowels of the streaming settings instead of just having it disabled and stay disabled after you remove the tick.Principle of least surprise being ravaged at multiple levels,

It's a useless filter too, since people could make better filters themselves if they wanted to, and yet you persist to foist this failure on them for all eternity ? Sounds like Epic levels of hubrid failure to me.

[Gibor]

Автор сообщения: slouken

You can set the launch mode to Recent Games, Big Picture, or Desktop in the Steam Link Advanced Streaming Settings before you start streaming.

If you set the launch mode to Big Picture, it won't have the filter applied.

Also, please let us know what games work well, but aren't showing up in the filter.

Thanks!

Thanks a lot for the workaround. This at least makes this whole thing bearable. But as others stated before: Why isn't it possible to have this filter removed? Is anyone actually in favor of this?

And what is this Filter for anyways? Shouldn't basically all games work on Steam Link? I think I so far hardly had any games, that didn't work at all (one or two very cheap or free games maybe, but no bigger game that was a genuine Steam-game). So why even bother with "adding games to this list"?