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SABER's next 'Roadcraft' type game
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The nonlethal route with Kirin Jindosh is really, really brutal.
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It's core to the series that the nonlethal options aren't mercy; they're usually fates worse than death. It's fitting to destroy what the character valued, and to do to them what they did to other people. The Pendletons go from brutal slavers to brutalized slaves, Timsh gets everything seized on false allegations of plague like he did to so many other people. Etc.

But hell if reducing Jindosh to a gibbering wreck struggling to string a thought together and begging for death didn't mess with me. Seeing the wonders of his mansion, his creations, and 'the ruined cathedral of his mind' made me wonder if my actions were truly justified.

I'm not going to whitewash him – he was a sociopathic narcissist whose experimentation killed loads of people and whose inventions killed more, and he had no qualms about torture. Fundamentally I don't think he was capable of caring about causing pain, and all he wanted was to feed his ego. Awful dude.

But I thought it was tone-deaf to compare him villainously to Sokolov when in the first game, Sokolov was also kidnapping people off the street to put through deadly experiments, and you find him taking notes about his latest (312th) victim, who's dying in agony in a cage. We destroy Jindosh because he's building an army for our enemies, but Sokolov also built weapons for a corrupt ruler that were used to industrially slaughter the common man, and we just kidnapped him when he did it. Sokolov did not care about this until the sequel chose to make him grow as a character. Excepting Hypatia, all of the natural philosophers we've met are seriously screwed up people and I honestly don't think they went far enough in making Jindosh stand out.

If you listen to all of his Heart quotes, then yeah, he's horrifying. But if you don't go looking for that information and you just go through his mansion, he seems pretty genial. He's a ♥♥♥♥, he loves to toy with people who break into his house, and he's torturing your friend, but the game doesn't show you much evil beyond that, while showing you lots of evidence of what he can create for benign purposes.

He's also working on an electric chair that he hopes can burn out a person's willpower and individuality, which is absurdly evil. But if you read Piero's notes in the first game, he wants to put a person in a pressure tank and keep them there for years in order to see if a human can generate whale oil. And we're supposed to root for Piero. Even Vasco was putting pepper oil in people's eyes and thought it was a curative success. They're all insane.

I don't know. It would have gone a long way for me if Jindosh was actually involved in the coup, and if the game had been more forward about showing the insane callous harm he caused. Like there were scrapped plans for his experiments where he tried to simulate robot ethics by putting innocents in contrived rat-maze deathtraps and seeing what his clockwork soldiers will do, and the player had to navigate the Trolley Problem to get through the level. Give me something like that and I'll feel vindicated about burning his beloved brain out through his ears.

As he is... I would have been happy to throw him to the mercy of one of the gangs, or sabotage his soldiers to cut off his funding and ruin his reputation. But I think I'm breaking my Clean Hands runs from here on out. It's a bit like Lady Boyle; the game just didn't make me hate the character enough to deserve the living hell they got.
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