Wait . . Steam is trying to force me to buy a "smartphone"?

[Naota]

This cant't be right, but I read it in another thread.

I don't have a "smartphone", and I have no reason to buy one.

[6inchдÄцÖ]

Don't have one

[Black Blade]

Blue Shark~Vault Boy /CZE/ の投稿を引用：

Ok, I'll pay the 10 for the phone if you provide the additional costs to get it delivered to my country. Deal?

Not a single person here managed to answer my questions yet, thou.

What reason there is for me to get one, other than Valve's arbitrary decission to put resctrictions on me without one?

Why is Valve not using the more logical SMS two step verification like my bank or google?

You really should stop excusing billion dollar company being cheap and lazy. It's lame.

Valve did reply on that all ready
Its not only abut the Auf, but also abut confirming trades, that is why it need an app and not just SMS or using other Auf app

[B3ATS]

DSIg@meboy の投稿を引用：

Valve under stands that, but they also under stand you can get a phone for $10. All you need is a wifi

most people do tho

[Black Blade]

Evil Ninetales の投稿を引用：

The only phones to my knowledge that run android are ... ( Wait for it ) ... smartphones.

to say "you can get a small android tabled for less than a full price game" is unacceptable.

Why should i fork out MORE MONEY for something else just to get steam stupid auth app.

So don't
And wait 3 days

[Hassat Hunter]

@ Black Blade:

Yeah, that's not a valid reason. As stated other companies can do just fine with SMS if they need a freakin' phone in the first place.

[Hassat Hunter]

Sure... also; give my money to non-Valve corporations and their bedbuddies.

Makes me feel much better than paying apple $10+ a month just cause Valve said so, and have an iPhone-shaped paperweight.

[Tito Shivan]

Hassat Hunter の投稿を引用：

@ Black Blade:

Yeah, that's not a valid reason. As stated other companies can do just fine with SMS if they need a freakin' phone in the first place.

Volume.
The systems you refer to don't deal with the volume of SMS steam trading would require. Daily.
You're escalating a system to delivery two SMS to every trade happening on Steam.
Also, SMS codes are vulnerable to MitM attacks. The trade verification is not.

[Starwhite]

You should still run the crapp in emulator, no phones or tablets ever needed, period.

[Nobody]

i have a smartphone,i simply refuse to use that POS mobile app.

[Black Blade]

Hassat Hunter の投稿を引用：

Sure... also; give my money to non-Valve corporations and their bedbuddies.

Makes me feel much better than paying apple $10+ a month just cause Valve said so, and have an iPhone-shaped paperweight.

Will be nice if you start using the quote, so it will be easy to know who you reply to man

[Forcen]

Evil Ninetales の投稿を引用：

Forcen の投稿を引用：

You don't need a smartphone, any device that runs android is fine.
You can get a small android tablet for less then a full price game on Steam and you never need any new accounts to use it, just download the steam app from this website.

The only phones to my knowledge that run android are ... ( Wait for it ) ... smartphones.

to say "you can get a small android tabled for less than a full price game" is unacceptable.

Why should i fork out MORE MONEY for something else just to get steam stupid auth app.

Because you want to trade instantly right? If you don't then don't buy one.
I'm sure you have heard the reasons why you need to do this to trade instantly so won't post them.

My point was that you don't need a phone for the app, you can run the app on anything that runs android (more than phones) and just add the number of your non-apple non-android phone that can recieve SMS and you are done.

Secondly android devices has more uses, I'm sure one of the many might interest you. http://www.computerworld.com/article/2487680/smartphones/smartphones-18-great-uses-for-an-old-android-device.html Some of these are not for new devices but you get the picture.

Just to be clear, they won't change this so figure out how much money and time you want to spend to trade instatly. If the answer is $0 then fine, get used to the trade hold.

I'm just trying to clear the misconception that you need to be a smartphone user and have to stop whatever phone solution you have now because this is not true. It doesn't have to cost you the price of a new iphone for you to be able to trade instantly and you don't need a google account either and you can keep using your old phone.

[ｃｈｉｇｇａ]

Nope

[Starwhite]

Forcen の投稿を引用：

Just to be clear, they won't change this so figure out how much money and time you want to spend to trade instatly. If the answer is $0 then fine, get used to the trade hold.

I'm just trying to clear the misconception that you need to be a smartphone user and have to stop whatever phone solution you have now because this is not true. It doesn't have to cost you the price of a new iphone for you to be able to trade instantly and you don't need a google account either and you can keep using your old phone.

Could people just already understand that the crapp really runs just fine in any of the Android emulators for PC and stop talking about irrelevant cost of useless phones? I spent 0€ total to get the crapp working and so can everyone else. You don't even need a phone at all as you can use any of the free SMS receiving services online.

[Forcen]

Starwhite の投稿を引用：

Forcen の投稿を引用：

Just to be clear, they won't change this so figure out how much money and time you want to spend to trade instatly. If the answer is $0 then fine, get used to the trade hold.

I'm just trying to clear the misconception that you need to be a smartphone user and have to stop whatever phone solution you have now because this is not true. It doesn't have to cost you the price of a new iphone for you to be able to trade instantly and you don't need a google account either and you can keep using your old phone.

Could people just already understand that the crapp really runs just fine in any of the Android emulators for PC and stop talking about irrelevant cost of useless phones? I spent 0€ total to get the crapp working and so can everyone else. You don't even need a phone at all as you can use any of the free SMS receiving services online.

True, this is also a solution. It might be a bit less unsafe and portable, can you password it somehow? Touch password? Malware could remote your stuff and look for emulators and copy the whole thing with the app and everything and use it to take all your stuff.
This is why separate hardware is what valve wanted and a bit safer if you can afford it.

[Starwhite]

Forcen の投稿を引用：

True, this is also a solution. It might be a bit less unsafe and portable, can you password it somehow? Touch password? Malware could remote your stuff and look for emulators and copy the whole thing with the app and everything and use it to take all your stuff.
This is why separate hardware is what valve wanted and a bit safer if you can afford it.

I'm sure you can somehow, but it's of no interest to me. I want less hassle for simple card trades, not more, which is why I don't want to use my tablet for it either. And my PC is already much more secure than any phone.

People should also stop calling the phone more secure since it's separate hardware, when it's much less secure 1FA. Sure if you trade on PC you need to do extra hassle of confirming it on the phone. But why would they do that when they can just get malware on the phone much easier and require no other device at all.