Necro time limit and pertinence?

[swillfly]

I just received a warning regarding necroing old threads. I am thankful for the warning instead of instant banning but am really curious as to what is necroing and what is acceptable discussion continuance.

There are many, many threads about a plethora of topics done before so rather than start a new thread that has been overdone I sometimes will just reply to a pertinent older thread using the official Steam Forums search tool provided.

However... apparently necroing an old thread is a no-no regardless of whether or not it is germane.

I can start new threads regurgitating the same-old stuff covered in countless other threads. Not a problem for me. However the flip side is that some people will post links to other threads that have previously covered that topic or become irritated about starting yet another thread that has been overdone.

Catch-22

Also, I'm not sure what constitutes necroing a thread. 'm guessing it has to do with a certain amount of time - is it over a week? over a month? over a year? I have no idea.

May be better to err on the side of caution and receive community ire than bans for starting topics that have been done many times before.

Constructive/helpful opinions?

Thx!

[Aachen]

If you mean, by “to necro,” “to post in a long-dormant thread,” then it is certainly possible for a necropost to comprise spam, yes.

[Matt]

İlk olarak swillfly tarafından gönderildi:

That said, I wish I knew what time frame constitutes "spam" or "necro" of a thread.

For you, and for you only, don't post in threads older than 3 days.

I'm not really sure if you're sarcastic or just dismissive of feedback, but if you can't see why a one word post, in an 8 year old thread, where there were 9 additional replies, none of which were yours, is not ok, then I just don't know what to say. Dropping non-value added comments in old threads because your can--or think you can--or cause they skirt the rules--does not mean it's ok. If there was even a reasonable purpose to your post, like an 8 year old help thread, to which you added meaningful comments asking for help, then I could understand. But that wasn't the case. Perception is reality, and what I get after reviewing the comment, the warning, this concern, and then you're suggestion thread, is that you were looking for the exact response that you're receiving now. This is not your first rodeo; your account is 11 years old and you've got >4,500 discussion posts. You should know the lay of the land by now. You're welcome.

[swillfly]

İlk olarak Matt tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak swillfly tarafından gönderildi:

That said, I wish I knew what time frame constitutes "spam" or "necro" of a thread.

For you, and for you only, don't post in threads older than 3 days.

I'm not really sure if you're sarcastic or just dismissive of feedback, but if you can't see why a one word post, in an 8 year old thread, where there were 9 additional replies, none of which were yours, is not ok, then I just don't know what to say. Dropping non-value added comments in old threads because your can--or think you can--or cause they skirt the rules--does not mean it's ok. If there was even a reasonable purpose to your post, like an 8 year old help thread, to which you added meaningful comments asking for help, then I could understand. But that wasn't the case. Perception is reality, and what I get after reviewing the comment, the warning, this concern, and then you're suggestion thread, is that you were looking for the exact response that you're receiving now. This is not your first rodeo; your account is 11 years old and you've got >4,500 discussion posts. You should know the lay of the land by now. You're welcome.

I'm not being sarcastic nor dismissive of feedback.

Why the 3 day limit for me only? That is awfully exacting.

Apologies though. I was merely asking questions and possibly offering a productive suggestion.

I don't always pay really close attention to the dates of stuff - that's why I offered something that could help me - and possibly others too.

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

Interesting discussion. I’ll ponder about this and get back to you with my thoughts in about 8 years. See you then. Try to survive covid, we have lots to talk about.

[crunchyfrog]

İlk olarak swillfly tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Aachen tarafından gönderildi:

Spam is less about when a post is made and more about it’s content (or, frequently, lack thereof). :spicecrystal:

I dunno. In my other post in Steam Community someone else hard defined necroing as spam.

Whole lot of vague and unknown rules to abide by... just saying.

There's the thing right there.

What ONE person may use for a term, doesn't mean another does, and while there are defined terms of usage for a word or words, they can be flexibile because language is meant to be that way.

So yeah, it doesn't help that people interchange "hack" with "phish" or "scam", etc. But it IS valid, because if they managed to get their conversation across, that's all that matters.

You're right though, when it's vague, it's best to nail these things down.

[twiigss]

İlk olarak Gus the Crocodile tarafından gönderildi:

There is no rule against "necroing", and mods shouldn't be using it to describe infractions.

I too just received a warning for necroing. I checked out the link on the rules, and I didn't see anything specific about the term necroing. I'm genuinely confused about it. It was a 6 year old post, and I remembered it and wanted to add back to it. But something in the warning mentioned spam, which it wasn't, as the content was on-topic. If there is a defined rule on the term "necro", I honestly can't find it in the Discussion Rules and Guidelines.

[Mad Scientist]

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I'm genuinely confused about it. It was a 6 year old post, and I remembered it and wanted to add back to it. But something in the warning mentioned spam

Well there's the problem, it's a 6yr old thread, so needlessly bumping something compared to making a new thread can be considered "spam". The matter has been said and done, 6yrs if untouched is especially unwise to bump.

Its just a warning, and they don't need to define every rule to the smallest point. If you knew it was 6yrs old, leave it be

[Gus the Crocodile]

Game hubs are a different story; companies can and regularly do have their own expectations beyond Valve’s rules for Steam generally. Valve pretty much lets them run their hub as they see fit.

[Spawn of Totoro]

İlk olarak twiigss tarafından gönderildi:

I too just received a warning for necroing. I checked out the link on the rules, and I didn't see anything specific about the term necroing. I'm genuinely confused about it. It was a 6 year old post, and I remembered it and wanted to add back to it. But something in the warning mentioned spam, which it wasn't, as the content was on-topic. If there is a defined rule on the term "necro", I honestly can't find it in the Discussion Rules and Guidelines.

Honestly, yours was spam as it contributed nothing to the discussion. It was just a complaint about "+1" not being spam and pointing out there is no rule against necroing. Nothing in regards to the topic of the thread you posted in.

If you had posted and contributed to the thread in question, then I could understand an issue with the warning.