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They ARE very practical to find new fooder for my banlist though.
One you banned the most annoying 100+ screamers or so the forum is a much more quiet place.
It tends to be, although like Gremlins newborn creatures keep appearing.
What is clear is that Steam ain´t doing anything about it, neither would any companies since I doubt any of this prefabricated drama has reached any devs ears. 100% a localized Steam forums issue.
While this is true to an extent, its the "anti woke" crowd that makes constant threads about anything to do with the topic, here and on the game forums.
I barely see any fanatic "lefty" making a thread crying about missing diversity or similar.
And that's only 26 examples I pulled from the internet of bad games from 2020 and earlier.
Yes, there have always been bad games, ever since the medium started.
It´s specially funny if you insist and ask them what do they mean, what game "can´t be done anymore because of cancel culture/wokeness". I manage to ask it once to a guy that wasn´t even a gamer, so I guess he must have read it online or something, and he answered "Duke Nukem", I remeber bursting laughing, I was like "were you aware that they made one not so long ago, a remake of the old one, and boomer shooters are an actual genre now?"
Same as with the supposed bad writting of "woke games", as if Forspoken/Saint Rows invented bad writting in videogames, hell, bad writing in videogames it´s more of the norm than an irregularity. And if Saint Rows remake was "woke" for it´s "inclusive casting" then wouldnt that mean the old ones where equally "woke"? But those are good so, it´s "woke" good or everything "woke" it´s trash?
It never sustain itself when you stop and think about it for a few minutes. Then again, that would requiere to think, and moob mentality trains their soldiers to not do that. That´s why every Sweet Baby Inc has that "I won´t support a dev collaborating with racist child molesters *insert link to alt-right conspiracy video*", they saw the original one and everyone was like "perfect post, better use it to own the libs".
To a degree I think they are. I've come to realize that for lots of hobbies and such, a certain degree of gatekeeping is necessary for the health and well-being of that hobby. Mainly, you want to gatekeep out those who actively despise your hobby and want to change it to better suit them. It's like, if you have a group that discusses the preparation of steak, you wouldn't let any vegans into that group. They're not there to discuss steak, they're there to tear the place down and make everyone eat tofu. Let them in, and they'll eventually take over, kick all the steak aficionados out and rebrand your steak discussion group into some kind of bean curd appreciation club.
Just keep em unblocked so you can laugh at both.
Very poor understanding of the proposal of the thread. First off, this is a videogames app, politics should not be the primary focus of 50% of threads created in all game forums, which is funny considering the "anti-woke" crowd are the ones claiming politics should stay away from gaes but also the ones constantly bringing politics into any discussion.
And none of those users are creating though provoking post that conflict with my own ideas but at least they are capable of expressing their own. All this users have to "add" to any conversation is screaming "woke", refusing to define what "woke" even is, insulting others, and then use every falacy in the book to never respond anything while continue typing deranged conspiranoid stuff.
Case in point, the message below you goes on a rant about vegans. I know plenty of vegans, not a single one has ever done anything to disturb my enjoyment of meal let alone start a crussade to turn me into "one of them". And yet, I´m sure the user that wrote that is not even being sarcastic, he trully belives that vegans are a violent crowd waiting to beat him up on the street. Yet I only see one side when you see news in America about someone going crazy and shooting a school, it´s never a vegan, or a "lefty", or a "commie"... minus the one time it was a transgender person, every single other time it´s a white male conservative and the aim of their killing spreed is attacking a school that is teaching "woke" according to their manifestos.
So in the end, there´s no echo chamber if you eliminate crazy people from the conversation. In fact, it´s the one thing to do so that the rest of us can continue having a regular conversation, without anyone jumping and screaming "but the game it´s Sweet baby Inc infected!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE".
Out of 100 alt-right accounts, merely 2 are capable of writting anything useful, or express their ideas, or even make any sense (again, vegan message over there, who´s talking about vegans? who´s talking about gatekeeping what?... if I block this user, what conversation or challenge am I gonna miss? nothing, I will simply be avoiding having to read another random rant about off topic issues nobody is discussing).
An echo chamber on the other hand, it´s EXACTLY what the alt-rights are doing, which is clearly when you visit any of those Sweet Baby Inc threads and relaize there´s basically 4 messages, and 200 users repeating those messages. Again, who in this scenario seems more deep into an echo chamber? ´Cause I´m pretty sure every normal person would realize the bunch repeating the same thing over and over, with the same inflection and sometimes even the same grammar and similar phrase composition, those are the ones obviously extremelly deep into cult mentality. Me on the other hand, I just want to hang out with users that are indiferent, or at least not downright hostile to any developer who may have hire one consulting company among the 20 every dev hires for every proyect.
And what´s funny about all of this, is that Sweet Baby Inc doesn´t even involve itself in writting anything, nor are there any proofs that those games took their advices, and in fact in one case (Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew) former employees have actually come out to the steam forums and say that Sweet Baby Inc was hire but NONE OF THEIR IDEAS WERE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. And yet that game forums have 6 threads about the exact same thing, people who don´t own the game, claiming they remove it from their wishlist. Again, what conversation am I gonna miss if I block those users? What great lost wil I endure for blocking level 0-5 accounts with 2 games that are spamming hatred on forums towards a dev that has already disclousure their relationship with Sweet Baby Inc and it´s minimal?
I do find extremelly funny though that someone would claim anything about echo chambers when discussing this thing, when the other side it´s so deep into teir own echo chamber they can´t stop repeating the exact same things over and over "woke, DEI, political agenda, leftoids...." not a single one seems to have their own voice, but rather a compilation of great hits that are repeated over and over, until they lost all meaning.
Meanwhile everyone on this thread has their own voice, phrase structure, speech pattern, ideas.... normal people. Minus the "vegans are gonna kill us all" user, but then again, spoilers alert, I already had him blocked, so either they spew LGBTQphobia on Starfield forums, or he´s one of the few spamming "deleted from wishlist" on Sweet Baby Inc games cause those are the two occasions that have filled my blocklist, never have I blocked anyone for any other reason in more than 10 years using steam. So kudos to me for attractring one user representing precisely my point, he was already blocked, I decided to read what he had written, it´s an off topic deranged rant trying to villify vegans which I know he has never known in person one... well, he probably hasn´t meet in person many people, this type of rant only comes from critically online people with no real connection to the real world anymore, that´s why he can allow himself to say "vegan" and add a tag about violence and intolerance, when just like everything in this world, there´s all short of vegans, including those that wouldn´t call themselves "vegan" because nobody is so obssesed with label as the alt-right seems to think.
We are not trying to create an echo chambers, we are trying to go back to the good old days of playing videogames and then discussing them with other fans. Nobody needs this hate crowd infecting all of steam and screaming every time all the things they hate, life it´s short and I would prefer to live it not interacting with people unable to say anything without vomiting pure hatred and toxicity, cause I know everyone is happier that way.