Free games

[Shrek]

How come Epic Games manages to provide pretty good free games and Steam proposes only games that nobody knows? Being in the business since September 12, 2003 they can surely afford this.

[ka3ba chrab]

will steam reply to the challenge of epic games ?

I am just a double agent, going for the free games baby!

[󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧the.jester]

What challenge?

[crunchyfrog]

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

However you slice it, I call that a win.

What I find most ironic is it'll come the day where a dev pulls some shady stunt on Epic and Then people will miss those features on there.

We've seen it with people complaining about Epic stuff in Steam reviews. Now Imagine the moment the game to complain about wouldn't even be here.

You don't realise how useful a tool is until you need it.

Well said, yet again.

[Aachen]

Whence this nineteenth-century-duel mentality?

[ka3ba chrab]

Aachen eredeti hozzászólása:

Whence this nineteenth-century-duel mentality?

its called techniques of marketing and attracting users.

[Crazy Tiger]

I'm still waiting till they give away a game that I don't already own/have played and that I actually want to get. So far it's old hat that they're giving away.

[ShelLuser]

Ghandour Ella7am eredeti hozzászólása:

its called techniques of marketing and attracting users.

Attracting players is one thing, keeping them and persuading them to spend money on your platform is something else. Giving games away may persuade players to register to a platform, but that's just a small part of it and within the context of the bigger picture totally meaningless.

For example.... Being a vivid GTA 5 / GTAO player I couldn't help but notice that plenty of 'Steamers' grabbed the EG deal, only to continue to add the advantages to their R* profile which they then continued to use.... on Steam

Yes, EG attracted users attention. And?


(edit): Meaning... let's wait 2 - 4 weeks to see if their sale figures go up. Once you have that kind of data you can draw some conclusions from things. But right now? They made some waves, big deal. Or... to put this more directly (but maybe slightly unfairly): While EG were giving games away Steam was busy selling plenty of games with some solid discount periods.

... I wonder what would have made more money?

[Mad Scientist]

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm still waiting till they give away a game that I don't already own/have played and that I actually want to get. So far it's old hat that they're giving away.

Wouldnt've minded getting the free GTAV - but requiring 2FA was a solid no for me.

I'll just buy it on a Steam Sale.

Don't believe Epic has any long term goal or solution other than generating buzz now. Steam has been here and continues to be, and to my knowledge, didn't rely on requiring exclusivity or bribes to make their platform popular.

[Aachen]

Ghandour Ella7am eredeti hozzászólása:

its called techniques of marketing and attracting users.

Steam isn’t really having difficulty on that front without engaging Epic on their preferred terms.

Also, “I challenge thee!” is hardly the sum of all marketing techniques.

[crunchyfrog]

Dr.Coomer eredeti hozzászólása:

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm still waiting till they give away a game that I don't already own/have played and that I actually want to get. So far it's old hat that they're giving away.

Wouldnt've minded getting the free GTAV - but requiring 2FA was a solid no for me.

I'll just buy it on a Steam Sale.

Don't believe Epic has any long term goal or solution other than generating buzz now. Steam has been here and continues to be, and to my knowledge, didn't rely on requiring exclusivity or bribes to make their platform popular.

This is precisely what I was getting at when I typed that long winded explanation earlier (to a user that was disgenious with his responses) about why loss leaders can destroy a whole industry.

They can only effectively BE a short term solution otherwise you end up in an incessant arms race to the bottom. Tesco did it in the UK, and now everybody has paid the price for it.

[Crazy Tiger]

Dr.Coomer eredeti hozzászólása:

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm still waiting till they give away a game that I don't already own/have played and that I actually want to get. So far it's old hat that they're giving away.

Wouldnt've minded getting the free GTAV - but requiring 2FA was a solid no for me.

I'll just buy it on a Steam Sale.

Don't believe Epic has any long term goal or solution other than generating buzz now. Steam has been here and continues to be, and to my knowledge, didn't rely on requiring exclusivity or bribes to make their platform popular.

Played GTA 5 on console about 6-7 years ago, so wasn't interested in it.

I've said it before, Tim Sweeney stated they'd stop with the agressiveness when Steam would match the cut. I think that Valve responds by keeping Epic to their word and tries to bleed them dry.

[J4MESOX4D]

Dr.Coomer eredeti hozzászólása:

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm still waiting till they give away a game that I don't already own/have played and that I actually want to get. So far it's old hat that they're giving away.

Don't believe Epic has any long term goal or solution other than generating buzz now

Epic are still trying to establish a regular customer base but one thing for sure is, they wont be able to maintain this business model of giving away X amount of free games every week or two. They can burn money now but there will come a point where that portion of the company needs to be profitable for it to remain viable.

The funny thing is if Valve adopted this agressive model then the Epic Store wouldn't stand a chance in comparison. There will come a point where Epic draw the line, accept their customer base even if 90% are free-riders and then look at other ways to draw people in - maybe sole exclusives or even producing their own published games. Their burn-rate must be insane.

[Tito Shivan]

ShelLuser eredeti hozzászólása:

Attracting players is one thing, keeping them and persuading them to spend money on your platform is something else. Giving games away may persuade players to register to a platform, but that's just a small part of it and within the context of the bigger picture totally meaningless.

The theory is that helping users build a library in the new service eases the resistance of that first purchase because people would feel already 'invested' in the service.

Building a fabricated sense of investment to remove the friction of that 'first purchase' by making it the 31st game in your library.

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

I've said it before, Tim Sweeney stated they'd stop with the agressiveness when Steam would match the cut. I think that Valve responds by keeping Epic to their word and tries to bleed them dry.

The longer they extend the giveaways the harder the fall will be the moment they stop.

[crunchyfrog]

J4MESOX4D eredeti hozzászólása:

Dr.Coomer eredeti hozzászólása:

Don't believe Epic has any long term goal or solution other than generating buzz now

Epic are still trying to establish a regular customer base but one thing for sure is, they wont be able to maintain this business model of giving away X amount of free games every week or two. They can burn money now but there will come a point where that portion of the company needs to be profitable for it to remain viable.

The funny thing is if Valve adopted this agressive model then the Epic Store wouldn't stand a chance in comparison. There will come a point where Epic draw the line, accept their customer base even if 90% are free-riders and then look at other ways to draw people in - maybe sole exclusives or even producing their own published games. Their burn-rate must be insane.

Yup, and that's when it starts to get dangerous because the longer it prolongs, the bigger the risk of collateral damage to devs and so on, as it DOES devalue stuff.

Ergo, my point about Tesco.

however, I do take some kind of perverse pleaseure in seeing the entitled rants come forth when these freebies stop.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Dr.Coomer eredeti hozzászólása:

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm still waiting till they give away a game that I don't already own/have played and that I actually want to get. So far it's old hat that they're giving away.

Wouldnt've minded getting the free GTAV - but requiring 2FA was a solid no for me.

I created an account with email and enabled 2fa by email right away.
Because i read how bad their support is...... :D