Has anyone thought of using Linux I'm done with Microsoft.

[Shadowfox394]

I was ranting about Windows in my one thread posts about boycotting Steam and made a heavy decision and a lot of people were ranting on me. I decided to dig some research what I can do to keep using Steam so I have HoloISO installed on my computer as a dual boot. Has anyone tried this Operating System yet I can use it for a lifetime without needing another Operating System. The reason I'm keeping Windows 10 even after EoL to keep using it for MMORPGs I wish Steam adopted MMORPGs to make them playable on Linux as an option my computer has been running faster ever since I installed it. I can finally at least play some Steam games on Linux without having to ever worry about another Operating System it's actually pretty cool I even get to continue buying games from Steam.

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

I was ranting about Windows in my one thread posts about boycotting Steam and made a heavy decision and a lot of people were ranting on me. I decided to dig some research what I can do to keep using Steam so I have HoloISO installed on my computer as a dual boot. Has anyone tried this Operating System yet I can use it for a lifetime without needing another Operating System. The reason I'm keeping Windows 10 even after EoL to keep using it for MMORPGs I wish Steam adopted MMORPGs to make them playable on Linux as an option my computer has been running faster ever since I installed it. I can finally at least play some Steam games on Linux without having to ever worry about another Operating System it's actually pretty cool I even get to continue buying games from Steam.

Linux is great as an OS.

But in terms of gaming, you have to expect that it will likely be a lot of tedious work each time you want to add a new game, and again each time the game/steam updates.

If you only have one or two games that you play often, and don't get updates often, might be worth it.

But someone that drifts around from game to game will likely find it frustrating.

PS: make sure your graphics cards are compatible with linux before your switch (if you haven't already). Sometimes they don't work and sometimes they work with more limited functionality.

[Satoru]

Anyone “thinking” about using Linux is by definition pretty much not ready to use Linux

Again upgrade to Windows 10. That’s the solution. Why you are trying to take the most complicated and convoluted method to “fix” when everything can be address simply and easily

[Spawn of Totoro]

Linux Mint, Ubuntu and Debian are the only ones I am familiar with.

Keep in mind that any OS is going to need updates to continue to use Steam over time. Changing to Linux isn't really going to alter that.

For example: Chromium dropped support for Linux Kernel 3.16 back in 2015. As Steam uses a good amount of Chromium, Linux users had to update their Kernel in order to continue using Steam on Linux.

Steam won't run on previous versions of Ubuntu after you get far back enough (I think Ubuntu 16 or so) so users would have had to update to something more recent like Ubuntu 23.

Not really much difference with changing from Window 7, 8, 10, 11, ect. They are all new versions of the same OS.

[Shadowfox394]

Originally posted by Chronocide:

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

I was ranting about Windows in my one thread posts about boycotting Steam and made a heavy decision and a lot of people were ranting on me. I decided to dig some research what I can do to keep using Steam so I have HoloISO installed on my computer as a dual boot. Has anyone tried this Operating System yet I can use it for a lifetime without needing another Operating System. The reason I'm keeping Windows 10 even after EoL to keep using it for MMORPGs I wish Steam adopted MMORPGs to make them playable on Linux as an option my computer has been running faster ever since I installed it. I can finally at least play some Steam games on Linux without having to ever worry about another Operating System it's actually pretty cool I even get to continue buying games from Steam.

Linux is great as an OS.

But in terms of gaming, you have to expect that it will likely be a lot of tedious work each time you want to add a new game, and again each time the game/steam updates.

If you only have one or two games that you play often, and don't get updates often, might be worth it.

But someone that drifts around from game to game will likely find it frustrating.

PS: make sure your graphics cards are compatible with linux before your switch (if you haven't already). Sometimes they don't work and sometimes they work with more limited functionality.

I just bought a couple of games and went through tutorials on that the GPU I am running on is AMD Radeon RX 580 8G which can run most modern games smoothly. No issues on Sonic Frontiers when playing the game as well. Just bought Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series and the Quake bundle I grew up with that game. It seems HoloISO has a low end option for the Operating System and still allows you to play Steam games. The installation was a success I'm actually getting a kick out of customizing the whole interface to make it look more modern.

I stopped liking Microsoft after Windows 7 and when they removed the Start Menu in Windows 8 it looks like junk and I can't afford to upgrade to Windows 11 so money is kind of tight right now and I need to be looking for jobs I love Steam half to death I wish they brought back the Steam Machine to compete with Microsoft. Imagine Valve making their own computers to rival Microsoft that would be completely Legendary best part is Steam Machines aren't really expensive as well I was debating on buying a used one on ebay.


Also I hate Windows 10 as well the layout doesn't look any better xD

[Shadowfox394]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Linux Mint, Ubuntu and Debian are the only ones I am familiar with.

Keep in mind that any OS is going to need updates to continue to use Steam over time. Changing to Linux isn't really going to alter that.

For example: Chromium dropped support for Linux Kernel 3.16 back in 2015. As Steam uses a good amount of Chromium, Linux users had to update their Kernel in order to continue using Steam on Linux.

Steam won't run on previous versions of Ubuntu after you get far back enough (I think Ubuntu 16 or so) so users would have had to update to something more recent like Ubuntu 23.

Not really much difference with changing from Window 7, 8, 10, 11, ect. They are all new versions of the same OS.

Valve just needs to bring back the Steam Machine I was debating on getting a Steam Deck after hearing about it. I got bad dental work and hopefully it goes good and I come back alive I'm afraid of surgery and never been performed on because I was always cautious. Yes I know it doesn't alter their whole updating policy HoloISO looks pretty stable I wish Valve launched their own Operating System engineered by them even if it's premium it's well worth it to keep using the service.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Not really much difference with changing from Window 7, 8, 10, 11, ect. They are all new versions of the same OS.

At least the general interface stays roughly the same throughout iterations though.
What annoys me the most about Windows is the fact you have to get re-adjusted to some basic functionality every time. Something simple like shutting down your machine has had a different flow in each Windows since 98!
No wonder people create a bloody batch script for this.

[Shadowfox394]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Not really much difference with changing from Window 7, 8, 10, 11, ect. They are all new versions of the same OS.

At least the general interface stays roughly the same throughout iterations though.
What annoys me the most about Windows is the fact you have to get re-adjusted to some basic functionality every time. Something simple like shutting down your machine has had a different flow in each Windows since 98!
No wonder people create a bloody batch script for this.

Apparently Microsoft is in legal trouble for tax evasion people might want to switch to Linux anyway I'm having fun with it. Like I said I wish Valve adopted MMORPGs so they can work on Linux I would like to have the ability to play World of Warcraft on Steam. Maybe Blizzard can compete with RuneScape by going the same route as an option to use it on Steam. Windows appears to be getting worse each upgrade they do I am really rathering Windows Vista over Windows 10 you have to download classic shell just to bring back the classic Start Menu and Windows 12 is probably going to look even worse if anyone wants to check out a Linux based Operating System that runs SteamOS I would also check out ChimeraOS I am digging up research on what can attempt to use Steam for a lifetime.

[Supafly]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Not really much difference with changing from Window 7, 8, 10, 11, ect. They are all new versions of the same OS.

At least the general interface stays roughly the same throughout iterations though.
What annoys me the most about Windows is the fact you have to get re-adjusted to some basic functionality every time. Something simple like shutting down your machine has had a different flow in each Windows since 98!
No wonder people create a bloody batch script for this.

Like that with various things nowadays, like companies employ staff to 'modernise' which is just busy waste of time work that requires all their customer having to figure out how to do basic stuff. Does my nut it and precisely why I delay upgrading for anything put security updates for as long as possible

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Valve just needs to bring back the Steam Machine I was debating on getting a Steam Deck after hearing about it. I got bad dental work and hopefully it goes good and I come back alive I'm afraid of surgery and never been performed on because I was always cautious. Yes I know it doesn't alter their whole updating policy HoloISO looks pretty stable I wish Valve launched their own Operating System engineered by them even if it's premium it's well worth it to keep using the service.

Steam Machines were not even made by Valve.

The Steam OS they used is still available.
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos

And even then it is just Debian that launches into Big Picture mode.

Ubuntu and Mint are two of the most known and new user friendly version of Linux out there.

Originally posted by cinedine:

At least the general interface stays roughly the same throughout iterations though.
What annoys me the most about Windows is the fact you have to get re-adjusted to some basic functionality every time. Something simple like shutting down your machine has had a different flow in each Windows since 98!
No wonder people create a bloody batch script for this.

I've seen such changes in Linux as well. Just depends on what version you are changing to. Difference between Ubuntu 9 and 20 are quite a bit.

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Apparently Microsoft is in legal trouble for tax evasion people might want to switch to Linux anyway I'm having fun with it. Like I said I wish Valve adopted MMORPGs so they can work on Linux I would like to have the ability to play World of Warcraft on Steam. Maybe Blizzard can compete with RuneScape by going the same route as an option to use it on Steam. Windows appears to be getting worse each upgrade they do I am really rathering Windows Vista over Windows 10 you have to download classic shell just to bring back the classic Start Menu and Windows 12 is probably going to look even worse if anyone wants to check out a Linux based Operating System that runs SteamOS I would also check out ChimeraOS I am digging up research on what can attempt to use Steam for a lifetime.

Steam doesn't adapt games. They can try to get them working with Proton, but that is about it. They can't modify the game's code as they do not have the rights to do so.

There are many MMORPGs that work on Linux as well.
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1754&category1=998&os=linux&supportedlang=english&ndl=1

As for Window, I have no issues with Windows. I am not hung up on the looks of an OS either, so don't mind adapting to a change.

[Shadowfox394]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Valve just needs to bring back the Steam Machine I was debating on getting a Steam Deck after hearing about it. I got bad dental work and hopefully it goes good and I come back alive I'm afraid of surgery and never been performed on because I was always cautious. Yes I know it doesn't alter their whole updating policy HoloISO looks pretty stable I wish Valve launched their own Operating System engineered by them even if it's premium it's well worth it to keep using the service.

Steam Machines were not even made by Valve.

The Steam OS they used is still available.
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos

And even then it is just Debian that launches into Big Picture mode.

Ubuntu and Mint are two of the most known and new user friendly version of Linux out there.

Originally posted by cinedine:

At least the general interface stays roughly the same throughout iterations though.
What annoys me the most about Windows is the fact you have to get re-adjusted to some basic functionality every time. Something simple like shutting down your machine has had a different flow in each Windows since 98!
No wonder people create a bloody batch script for this.

I've seen such changes in Linux as well. Just depends on what version you are changing to. Difference between Ubuntu 9 and 20 are quite a bit.

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Apparently Microsoft is in legal trouble for tax evasion people might want to switch to Linux anyway I'm having fun with it. Like I said I wish Valve adopted MMORPGs so they can work on Linux I would like to have the ability to play World of Warcraft on Steam. Maybe Blizzard can compete with RuneScape by going the same route as an option to use it on Steam. Windows appears to be getting worse each upgrade they do I am really rathering Windows Vista over Windows 10 you have to download classic shell just to bring back the classic Start Menu and Windows 12 is probably going to look even worse if anyone wants to check out a Linux based Operating System that runs SteamOS I would also check out ChimeraOS I am digging up research on what can attempt to use Steam for a lifetime.

Steam doesn't adapt games. They can try to get them working with Proton, but that is about it. They can't modify the game's code as they do not have the rights to do so.

There are many MMORPGs that work on Linux as well.
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1754&category1=998&os=linux&supportedlang=english&ndl=1

As for Window, I have no issues with Windows. I am not hung up on the looks of an OS either, so don't mind adapting to a change.

I am only being cautious because the last time Valve canceled services on Windows 7 hopefully Windows 10 doesn't meet the same fate. I have Linux just in case Valve were to end services on Windows 10 which is more open source and less strict policies. Just be careful about those EoL policies because Steam wasn't build to last that long unless they change their mind and say to hell with it use Steam at your own risk on any old Windows which would be nice lol. Ohhhhh in regards to MMORPGs I wish Steam would adopt World of Warcraft as I mentioned that would be really cool to see it pop up on Steam as an option lol.

[Shadowfox394]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Valve just needs to bring back the Steam Machine I was debating on getting a Steam Deck after hearing about it. I got bad dental work and hopefully it goes good and I come back alive I'm afraid of surgery and never been performed on because I was always cautious. Yes I know it doesn't alter their whole updating policy HoloISO looks pretty stable I wish Valve launched their own Operating System engineered by them even if it's premium it's well worth it to keep using the service.

Steam Machines were not even made by Valve.

The Steam OS they used is still available.
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos

And even then it is just Debian that launches into Big Picture mode.

Ubuntu and Mint are two of the most known and new user friendly version of Linux out there.

Originally posted by cinedine:

At least the general interface stays roughly the same throughout iterations though.
What annoys me the most about Windows is the fact you have to get re-adjusted to some basic functionality every time. Something simple like shutting down your machine has had a different flow in each Windows since 98!
No wonder people create a bloody batch script for this.

I've seen such changes in Linux as well. Just depends on what version you are changing to. Difference between Ubuntu 9 and 20 are quite a bit.

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Apparently Microsoft is in legal trouble for tax evasion people might want to switch to Linux anyway I'm having fun with it. Like I said I wish Valve adopted MMORPGs so they can work on Linux I would like to have the ability to play World of Warcraft on Steam. Maybe Blizzard can compete with RuneScape by going the same route as an option to use it on Steam. Windows appears to be getting worse each upgrade they do I am really rathering Windows Vista over Windows 10 you have to download classic shell just to bring back the classic Start Menu and Windows 12 is probably going to look even worse if anyone wants to check out a Linux based Operating System that runs SteamOS I would also check out ChimeraOS I am digging up research on what can attempt to use Steam for a lifetime.

Steam doesn't adapt games. They can try to get them working with Proton, but that is about it. They can't modify the game's code as they do not have the rights to do so.

There are many MMORPGs that work on Linux as well.
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1754&category1=998&os=linux&supportedlang=english&ndl=1

As for Window, I have no issues with Windows. I am not hung up on the looks of an OS either, so don't mind adapting to a change.

Sorry for spam how do I get the actual SteamOS installed on my computer is it possible I wouldn't mind staying stuck on it to keep running services with Steam. I like the whole digital games idea but these policies are my only complaint and are harsh but I am trying to cooperate as best as possible with it. Everytime I download the ISO it will never actually burn onto my flashdrive if I can use SteamOS without compromise I would be set for a lifetime on my computer.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

I am only being cautious because the last time Valve canceled services on Windows 7 hopefully Windows 10 doesn't meet the same fate. I have Linux just in case Valve were to end services on Windows 10 which is more open source and less strict policies. Just be careful about those EoL policies because Steam wasn't build to last that long unless they change their mind and say to hell with it use Steam at your own risk on any old Windows which would be nice lol. Ohhhhh in regards to MMORPGs I wish Steam would adopt World of Warcraft as I mentioned that would be really cool to see it pop up on Steam as an option lol.

It WILL happen to Windows 10 and Windows 11, ect. It is inevitable. Just because an OS doesn't have a number, doesn't mean it won't go out dated.

Ubuntu 12 can't run Steam. Linux Mint has no version number in the name, but has previous versions that can no longer run Steam. It happens with ALL Operating systems. They all have EoL to previous versions.

Changing to Linux doesn't negate that fact.

Chromium will not work on Windows 7, 8, 8.1.

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/7100626?hl=en

Linux

To use Chrome browser on Linux, you'll need:

64-bit Ubuntu 18.04+, Debian 10+, openSUSE 15.2+, or Fedora Linux 32+
An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE3 capable

Eventually these Linux Distros will not longer be supported either as Chromium changes, drops code and gains newer code and features that requires a higher OS version.

So even if one switches to Linux, they still hit the same wall eventually and have to upgrade. There really is no difference in that matter with Steam or any other service that runs on multiple operating systems.

Steam (Valve, as Steam is a services, not a company) doesn't adopt games. The developers choose if they wish to put the game on Steam. Proton only provides a wrapper that lets a Windows program run in Linux. If you want to see WoW running on Linux, then it would be best to contact Activisions/Blizzard as they are the only ones who can do so.

You may be able to find a tutorial on how to get it running on Linux with Wine or a similar wrapper, but that may be a very technical and complex thing to do.

Don't get me wrong. There are many good versions of Linux and it is a viable alternative to Windows, especially with the strides that Valve has made with it.

I just don't want people to think they can install a version of Linux (ie, Ubuntu 18) and never have to update anything on their system again, because it WILL eventually have to be upgraded for a future Steam Client eventually.

Still need updates and still have out-dated versions of an OS, no matter if it is Windows, Linux or Mac/AppleOS.

Originally posted by Shadowfox394:

Sorry for spam how do I get the actual SteamOS installed on my computer is it possible I wouldn't mind staying stuck on it to keep running services with Steam. I like the whole digital games idea but these policies are my only complaint and are harsh but I am trying to cooperate as best as possible with it. Everytime I download the ISO it will never actually burn onto my flashdrive if I can use SteamOS without compromise I would be set for a lifetime on my computer.

SteamOS isn't the end all, be all for games. It is Linux based and so limited to Linux based games and Proton.

There are many tutorials on how to install it out there.

Keep in mind that a new version may be on it's way as Valve may be moving it to the same version as on the Steam Deck. That means a complete reinstall as the current SteamOS is based on Debian and the Steam Deck version is ArchLinux.

[Xautos]

After Windows 7 died in 2020 when support ended, i moved over to Ubuntu. I'm not going near that piece of crap windows 10 or 11 and 12 to come, when it does.

Linux is a really nice OS, lots of options and things you can do with it, steam can run and you can use proton or Glorious Eggroll to play your windows games from. Be aware not every game runs on GE or proton and some games work on one better than the other as well, so do your research into what games work well in compatibility.

[76561199559798421]

leave pc gaming to the big boys, stick to console if your having perplexing issues over operating systems, big boy pc users don't let companies tell them what they can an can not use or expect to give money to a company to restrict what and where they can use the software they paid for.


its time to start using your pc as it was ment to be used, as a gateway to remove the media mainstreaming marketing manipulation. by having a pc that works, and falling for steams gimmicks to change your pc operating system to continue to be its customer is simply silly.

take a hard stance unlock the potential in your computer, do not allow any company, to dictate to you the price or access on the games you want to play.

[Thermal Lance]

I've been using EndeavourOS for some time now. Hands down my favourite Linux distro once I got past the learning curve of using an Arch-based distro.

(It's not as hard as some people try to make it look like.)