Can i get a ban or something for refund so many times?

[saniclove]

Hi people, i just wondering if something will happend to my account bc i have so many refunds lol :(

[wuddih]

Publicado originalmente por Villanelle:

Publicado originalmente por Baby Dwight:

The refund system is not there for you to demo games.

That should be at the top of the store page lol. Whenever I bring up and ask for a Demo, The replies I get.... "just buy the game, play for 2 hours etc etc" like, no.

I am surprised they don't get refund banned.

it is completely fine to buy a game and refund it if you dont like it within 2 hours of playtime.
doing this once in while will have to consequences .. but ... there are people that buy a dozen games and then start refunding them as they try them out, resulting in as many of refund requests.
... and that is completely unnecessary in this day and age. on nearly every game there is enough independent footage and reports on it shortly after its release that goes beyond the store page material ... and that should be enough to assess a tendency to like a game enough to buy it or to dodge it, sometimes it isn't though and then Steams refund policy is a really uncomplicated safety net ... it is just not a trampoline.


as for refund restrictions:
as it has not changed ...
you get refund reply emails containing 2 levels of warnings before the refund ability will be disabled for ya, which will be also expressed in a refund reply email.

there are no hard numbers on those.

in the past people might have overlooked those warnings as they were just additional sentences in the very same looking email. dunno if that was changed to make those more visible but personally, mass refunding is a special people issue, no amount of pointing at things will prevent this from happening.

[Cupcake]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

I've seen it before years ago, was an extreme edge case with someone who made multiple accounts to bypass the ban/restriction on refunds. Was back on the old forums. He was doing it to review bomb games. So again it can happen in a variety of different ways and severities.

Just like i've seen a user actually get banned from steam to the point they REMOVED his ability to play his purchased games. I'm only aware of that happening one time in the entirety of steam for instance.

Again, you can keep calling it a "ban" if you want to, but the rest of us who prefer to be precise in our speech will instead use words like "restrict" or "revoke"

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por Hi 😉,:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

I've seen it before years ago, was an extreme edge case with someone who made multiple accounts to bypass the ban/restriction on refunds. Was back on the old forums. He was doing it to review bomb games. So again it can happen in a variety of different ways and severities.

Just like i've seen a user actually get banned from steam to the point they REMOVED his ability to play his purchased games. I'm only aware of that happening one time in the entirety of steam for instance.

Again, you can keep calling it a "ban" if you want to, but the rest of us who prefer to be precise in our speech will instead use words like "restraint" or "revoke"

Sure, feel free to call it that, those mean the exact same thing as ban, hence why they are synonyms.

[white but not quite]

Publicado originalmente por Hi 😉,:

Again, you can keep calling it a "ban" if you want to, but the rest of us who prefer to be precise in our speech will instead use words like "restrict" or "revoke"

Well a "ban" does sound more ominous and more impactful. Maybe that's what he's going for? People would probably be less inclined to request a refund, if Valve told them they can be outright BANNED for abusing them

[Muppet among Puppets]

Publicado originalmente por ree:

Publicado originalmente por Hi 😉,:

Again, you can keep calling it a "ban" if you want to, but the rest of us who prefer to be precise in our speech will instead use words like "restrict" or "revoke"

Well a "ban" does sound more ominous and more impactful. Maybe that's what he's going for? People would probably be less inclined to request a refund, if Valve told them they can be outright BANNED for abusing them

The warning message was posted here some times.
And it mentions what happens if you continue.

I think other shops tell you to not buy from them if you do too many refunds. As real goods have a real refund obligation when bought online.

As steam sells digital products, their "refund obligation is less", so they can just say, no refunds, but you can still buy.

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Yeah, that's what I presumed. Not really a ban, more like a restriction.

There are many types of bans. Forum bans, community bans, content bans, refund bans, etc. Steam has and will continue to issue refund bans, and even ban your ability to buy games from the store over refund abuse.

Steam has even referred to it as ban for instance in the rare cases when it escalates - https://external-preview.redd.it/Th2wFu7kbYsO--v3CULTn_fxUbSKvLFfcPIpVYKfpC8.jpg?auto=webp&s=3030566c26c0dcd65070b114f154dfee8f6e9814

I mean by that logic your using you don't get a forum ban either, you can just call it a "restriction", so your free to play semantics if you want, but yes, too many refunds can result in you being banned from using the refunds ever again, or even banned completely from using the store.

Every refund you do costs Steam money as they lose money with every refunded transaction, do to many and you become more trouble then your worth and you your banned from refunds

Refund bans? Alright then. Banned from refunding... interesting.

[white but not quite]

Publicado originalmente por Muppet among Puppets:

The warning message was posted here some times.
And it mentions what happens if you continue.

I just don't understand why some people go out of their way to continue arguing over semantics in an overbearing and condescending manner

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Refund bans? Alright then. Banned from refunding... interesting.

It's seven years old and it's fake

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

It's seven years old and it's fake

Nope he is correct, you can be banned/restricted/blocked/etc from refunding.

[white but not quite]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

It's seven years old and it's fake

Nope he is correct, you can be banned/restricted/blocked/etc from refunding.

Then what's this about I'm confused:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Yes, ignore those telling you that you can't get banned. They will warn you and then you receive a ban and can no longer refund

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Nope he is correct, you can be banned/restricted/blocked/etc from refunding.

Then what's this about I'm confused:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Yes, ignore those telling you that you can't get banned. They will warn you and then you receive a ban and can no longer refund

What are you confused about? I said to ignore those who say you can't get banned, and that you will receive a warning before you are banned from refunding.

its mentioned all the time on the forums so its hardly surprising information

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3118150513188073964/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1643167006303429228/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/1639794651172977442/

[white but not quite]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

Then what's this about I'm confused:

What are you confused about? I said to ignore those who say you can't get banned, and that you will receive a warning before you are banned from refunding.

its mentioned all the time on the forums so its hardly surprising information

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3118150513188073964/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1643167006303429228/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/1639794651172977442/

I'm confused as to who you were referring to. Also I'm sure people mix up words all the time, especially considering that Steam is a multi-national platofrm and not everyone is a native English speaker. My fave is when people misuse words like 'illegal', or 'hacked', or 'banned' :)

the first guy is Turkish apparently, and the third dude is from Croatia

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

What are you confused about? I said to ignore those who say you can't get banned, and that you will receive a warning before you are banned from refunding.

its mentioned all the time on the forums so its hardly surprising information

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3118150513188073964/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1643167006303429228/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/1639794651172977442/

I'm confused as to who you were referring to. Also I'm sure people mix up words all the time, especially considering that Steam is a multi-national platofrm and not everyone is a native English speaker. My fave is when people misuse words like 'illegal', or 'hacked', or 'banned' :)

As well telling the OP that Yes he could get banned from being able to do anymore refunds, ive seen it happen and people complain repeatedly on the forums.

[white but not quite]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

I'm confused as to who you were referring to. Also I'm sure people mix up words all the time, especially considering that Steam is a multi-national platofrm and not everyone is a native English speaker. My fave is when people misuse words like 'illegal', or 'hacked', or 'banned' :)

As well telling the OP that Yes he could get banned from being able to do anymore refunds, ive seen it happen and people complain repeatedly on the forums.

Aight do you agree with the following statement then: "No, your account will not get banned, but your ability to refund may be taken away" ?

[Muppet among Puppets]

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

As well telling the OP that Yes he could get banned from being able to do anymore refunds, ive seen it happen and people complain repeatedly on the forums.

Aight do you agree with the following statement then: "No, your account will not get banned, but your ability to refund may be taken away" ?

Thats what we try to tell.
Because we have seen it.

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

Publicado originalmente por Muppet among Puppets:

The warning message was posted here some times.
And it mentions what happens if you continue.

I just don't understand why some people go out of their way to continue arguing over semantics in an overbearing and condescending manner

I stated a fact. Nothing else. It was as simple as telling what i have seen.

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por matt -the other-:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

As well telling the OP that Yes he could get banned from being able to do anymore refunds, ive seen it happen and people complain repeatedly on the forums.

Aight do you agree with the following statement then: "No, your account will not get banned, but your ability to refund may be taken away" ?

Yeah there are lots of different types of bans, they are all account based so the OP can indeed have something happen to his account such as losing the ability to ever refund again. If he elaborates later on what his specific concerns are he can get more details, but i've seen someone have their account locked from buying games for committing fraud with refunds, but you'd have to try REALLY hard to hit that point.

Just like you'd have to try really hard for steam to cut off access to your purchased games, but it HAS happened.