UK to ban mail ordered knives

[Fake]

The British government is set to ban deliveries that drop off packages with knives on doorsteps from companies such as Amazon.

This after it was revealed the Southport attacker had ordered knives online.




UK, why not pass laws that make it illegal to stab people? Or how about banning assault knives? No one needs a knife that is longer than 1 inch. And sensible knife registration and background checks.

[unskilled-]

Originally posted by BOT PLAYER:

Originally posted by unskilled-:

Imagine Musk or someone else inventing a Helldiver's type delivery system where your stuff gets dropped in from orbit.

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Thus the delivery from low orbit/high orbit/space/whatever.

Just... *WHAM* ... there's your package, a huge crater and debris flying as a result, lol.

[ZheZleepiest]

OI BRUV, YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT?

[BR B-263-54]

Originally posted by Fake:

The British government is set to ban deliveries that drop off packages with knives on doorsteps from companies such as Amazon.

This after it was revealed the Southport attacker had ordered knives online.




UK, why not pass laws that make it illegal to stab people? Or how about banning assault knives? No one needs a knife that is longer than 1 inch. And sensible knife registration and background checks.

The British legislators have a serious cultural issue of not actually being honest with their constituents and failing of rooting out the core problems related to criminal issues.

Instead what they'll do I "look busy" by creating pointless legislation that ultimately impacts on the lives of the vast majority and do relatively little to stop the actual problem.

I can cite numerous examples in recent years where this has been the case but just to start:-

1. "There is no law on the books to prevent spiking" Reality - numerous laws exist in Britain which prohibit spiking including a specific one found in the sexual offences act 2003 and a generic piece of legislation found in the Offences Against the Person Act - there is a specific offence of administering a substance to commit an indictable offence in British law that has LIFE imprisonment.

2. "We cant arrest protestors for blocking major roads and motorways" - Reality - Public Nuisance laws - brought in by the conservatives to tackle the just stop oil protests, this was previously an offence at common law with unlimited sentencing powers attached to it however the government facing public backlash wanted to look like they were doing something and so codified it in statute unnecessarily reducing maximum sentence to 14 years and created a cumbersome, specific definition for a public nuisance.

New laws drafted have to align with the HRA and as such any such provisions will be watered down including sentencing powers.

Knives are already heavily regulated in the UK, the problem isn't the tool, the problem is a lack of policing and if I'm being totally honest failings from security services.

Government won't like that last point however.

[Violent Rainbow]

They'll ban sharp objects altogether soon, you'll all be using safety scissors like toddlers. They really will do literally anything to avoid addressing the real problem.

[mai72]

Can I use butter knife?

[BR B-263-54]

Originally posted by Violent Rainbow:

They'll ban sharp objects altogether soon, you'll all be using safety scissors like toddlers. They really will do literally anything to avoid addressing the real problem.

This I feel is actually on the cards.

There was a anti-knife NGO group that tried to have the British government bring into law that only blunt, rounded knives with no point could be purchased in the UK.

Conservatives rightly said no, labour however is riddled with emotionally driven people with very little common sense but lots and lots of good intentions and misplaced empathy.

It wouldn't surprise me if they authorised this.

[Dusk of Oolacile]

That will probably completely stop people from, you know, just walking into a store, and buying knives, the thing that is widely available everywhere...

[Violent Rainbow]

Originally posted by BR B-263-54:

Originally posted by Violent Rainbow:

They'll ban sharp objects altogether soon, you'll all be using safety scissors like toddlers. They really will do literally anything to avoid addressing the real problem.

This I feel is actually on the cards.

There was a anti-knife NGO group that tried to have the British government bring into law that only blunt, rounded knives with no point could be purchased in the UK.

Conservatives rightly said no, labour however is riddled with emotionally driven people with very little common sense but lots and lots of good intentions and misplaced empathy.

It wouldn't surprise me if they authorised this.

Not to mention that sharp objects are far from the only thing you can use as a weapon, I mean imagine if they ban all pointy things and then certain people start throwing molotov cocktails at daycare centers. What then? Ban petrol? And fire? And what if then they start attacking people with... I don't know, angry squirrels tied to a stick? Ban all squirrels? The only thing they need to ban is the you-know-who's that keep committing these crimes.

[BR B-263-54]

Originally posted by Dusk of Oolacile:

That will probably completely stop people from, you know, just walking into a store, and buying knives, the thing that is widely available everywhere...

Labour has generally always taken the "big stick approach" they don't value the individual instead they value the "group" and as such when they draft legislation they don't really care if it impacts on individuals lives just so long as it looks like they're doing something and it aligns with their world view of being "empathetic above all else."

Conservatives were a little better in this regard but often would sacrifice individual freedoms and common sense for blanket powers under the guise of "protecting groups."

[talemore]

Pointy is scary

[BR B-263-54]

Originally posted by Violent Rainbow:

Originally posted by BR B-263-54:

This I feel is actually on the cards.

There was a anti-knife NGO group that tried to have the British government bring into law that only blunt, rounded knives with no point could be purchased in the UK.

Conservatives rightly said no, labour however is riddled with emotionally driven people with very little common sense but lots and lots of good intentions and misplaced empathy.

It wouldn't surprise me if they authorised this.

Not to mention that sharp objects are far from the only thing you can use as a weapon, I mean imagine if they ban all pointy things and then certain people start throwing molotov cocktails at daycare centers. What then? Ban petrol? And fire? And what if then they start attacking people with... I don't know, angry squirrels tied to a stick? Ban all squirrels? The only thing they need to ban is the you-know-who's that keep committing these crimes.

My dad was a bit of a Libertarian in his younger days (he's gone soft in his old age) but in order to live in a free and fair society you must accept every now and again awful things will happen because you live in a free society, that is the risk of freedom - the issue is ensuring your police, security services and judiciary are robust enough to adequately deal with these people when they appear and appropriate messages are sent to those who'd do your society harm.

US politics always understood this, Britain however has alot of guilt over its colonial history which has allowed very empathetic people to enter politics who have taken over civil services who would be horrified at the British state taking any kind of action against people or nations that would do us harm.

The extreme left of labour in my encounters with them actually believe Britain deserves what happens to it as a means of atonement for historical wrongs.

We're talking obscene mindsets at the very top of our political system.

[Sixtyfivekills]

What about cooking knives? You know, the ones advertised on TV to be made indestructible and how every other knife in existence sucks compared to it?

[abcd]

u got a lolicense to be a chef? u allowed to cook boy?

[Painkilleruk]

Originally posted by Fake:

The British government is set to ban deliveries that drop off packages with knives on doorsteps from companies such as Amazon.

This after it was revealed the Southport attacker had ordered knives online.




UK, why not pass laws that make it illegal to stab people? Or how about banning assault knives? No one needs a knife that is longer than 1 inch. And sensible knife registration and background checks.

here in the UK shops can sell combat knives,hunting knives etc however you are not allowed to buy them lol I know figure that one out. Still got the rambo bowie knife around here somewhere. TBH anythign can be a weapon, my ex's baking could be a weapon especially her muffins that were rock hard or her lemon merrang pie that will put you in hospital

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by abcd:

u got a lolicense to be a chef? u allowed to cook boy?

Not how it works.

You don't need a licence. It's just if you managed to get stopped for something and have those knives on you, you got to ptovide proof you are in fact, a chef.

Not markedly different to the US where you might have to show a licence or something for trading in guns. But it most certainly is not a licence.