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Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe
I know that a lot of people, especially leftist fanatics think that Ukraine is the definition of a saint country, but it couldn't be further from the truth. The vast majority of people there were always extremely poor, while the leaders and a small percent is as corrupt as they possibly can.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine


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What you're saying must be true if there is a YouTube video about it.
China and russia are #1 and #2
eram Jan 26 @ 4:42am 
anyone heard about this country called America?
Shocker Jan 26 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
I was wondering where the silly anti Ukraine propaganda had gone.

Nice strawman mate - nobody idolizes or says the Ukraine is a pinnacle or utopia.

The fact is Russia, or rather Putin is a scumbag and dissing Ukraine in NO WAY makes his actions OK or makes him therefore look better.

That's not how logic works.

So what was the point of your attack when it means nothing?
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.
eram Jan 26 @ 4:47am 
Originally posted by Shocker:
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
I was wondering where the silly anti Ukraine propaganda had gone.

Nice strawman mate - nobody idolizes or says the Ukraine is a pinnacle or utopia.

The fact is Russia, or rather Putin is a scumbag and dissing Ukraine in NO WAY makes his actions OK or makes him therefore look better.

That's not how logic works.

So what was the point of your attack when it means nothing?
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.
dont worry usa is way worse. why focus on the least corrupt instead of the most? seems odd you want to call out the least.
Even if true I bet atm Ukraine has some bigger issues than that
Originally posted by Shocker:
It's true regardless of these YouTube videos.
Nice opinion.
Originally posted by Shocker:
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
I was wondering where the silly anti Ukraine propaganda had gone.

Nice strawman mate - nobody idolizes or says the Ukraine is a pinnacle or utopia.

The fact is Russia, or rather Putin is a scumbag and dissing Ukraine in NO WAY makes his actions OK or makes him therefore look better.

That's not how logic works.

So what was the point of your attack when it means nothing?
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.

How so? Demonstrate how any of these claims above make them in any way responsible for being invaded?

The fact is they did NOTHING to warrant being invaded.

What IS actually true is that Ukraine has a lot of resources that PUtin would LOVE. It is known as the bread basket of Europe because it does grow an AWFUL lot of the world's grain.

Not only that but it's located in a place where it makes pipelines a benefit and profit for Putin. As well as any other resources they have.

Because Putin wants to also bring back the Soviet Union he greatly wants Ukraine, and that's why he tried to install a friendly face in there. Unfortunately for him it went wrong and Zelensky got in because people saw through it and got pissed off with that.

So Putin invaded a SOVEREIGN nation.

So demonstrate how Ukraine is in ANY way responsible for this war and invasion, because noe fo your claims above are even realted to it.
abcd Jan 26 @ 4:50am 
is there some kind of index that lets me see the numerical corruption difference between uklraine and, say, hong kong?
Originally posted by 404NotFound:
China and russia are #1 and #2
If we go with actual stats then the most corrupt country in the world is Somalia.

Ukraine have gone through alot of anti corruption since the war started and is now less corrupt than Russia.
Last edited by Astrallight; Jan 26 @ 4:54am
Originally posted by eram:
Originally posted by Shocker:
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.
dont worry usa is way worse. why focus on the least corrupt instead of the most? seems odd you want to call out the least.
What do you got against the yanks, are you even white mate
Originally posted by Shocker:
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.
Guilty? For what?
Shocker Jan 26 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
Originally posted by Shocker:
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.

How so? Demonstrate how any of these claims above make them in any way responsible for being invaded?

The fact is they did NOTHING to warrant being invaded.

What IS actually true is that Ukraine has a lot of resources that PUtin would LOVE. It is known as the bread basket of Europe because it does grow an AWFUL lot of the world's grain.

Not only that but it's located in a place where it makes pipelines a benefit and profit for Putin. As well as any other resources they have.

Because Putin wants to also bring back the Soviet Union he greatly wants Ukraine, and that's why he tried to install a friendly face in there. Unfortunately for him it went wrong and Zelensky got in because people saw through it and got pissed off with that.

So Putin invaded a SOVEREIGN nation.

So demonstrate how Ukraine is in ANY way responsible for this war and invasion, because noe fo your claims above are even realted to it.
This is all because the Democrat party wants Ukraine to join NATO. Plus they have been murdering Russians. Did you even listened what Putin said when he announced his invasion?
£ Jan 26 @ 4:53am 
Is Russia number 1 and USA number 2?
Originally posted by Shocker:
I'm just stating the facts. Ukraine is just as guilty when it comes to this war, if not even more.

Hey! EU has done plenty too!
Do we really need to nuke someone before we get some attention from other countries!?
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