Vegans, why are you vegan?

[KennyAtom]

just wondering, why do people willingly go vegan?

[Teefa]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ad Victoriam !:

Actually you give a good example here : "carnist", a word nobody use to define themselve, but used by vegans to speak about "others". That's how cults works after all. :)

And racists don’t usually call themselves racist. So what.

Abuse, harm, and exploitation should never be defined by the abuser.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Calling a person that just avoids red meat or a particular meat while eating others a "vegetarian" is stupid...

They are still an "omnivore" and "meat eater" if they are eating other animal products like fish and bird.

It sounds like they just want a "special" term so they can feel like they are somehow "better" than other people because of their diet choices and likes/dislikes.

Hey vegitarian?!? Here's your chicken sandwich and tuna melt. Enjoy eating those meat products that are in no way vegetables, Mr. Vegetarian.

You have "vegan" which avoids all animal derived products, and then you have everyone else that is a normal human omnivore.

So you are either a vegan, or an omnivore.

Could even argue genetically humans are naturally omnivores so veganism is purely just diet choice and likes/dislikes since they are still capable of eating and digesting animal products.

[Netaris]

Początkowo opublikowane przez TDPS:

And racists don’t usually call themselves racist. So what.

Abuse, harm, and exploitation should never be defined by the abuser.

Well, do you know that vegans actually kill way more animals than "non-vegan" peoples ? You know why ? Because an all-vegan diet mean the use of more pesticides to protect cultures from insects, killing them in huge quantities in the process. But insects aren't cute, so we can kill them as we can't make sad pictures with their death. That's why I've said vegans are weak and slaves of their emotions, manipulated by marketing tricks. Their ideology don't even make sense at all and in reality they don't care about life, it's just a pseudo-moral stance and that's it.

[Zilkenian Davenport]

I can't eat meat, so I was kind of forced into it.
I can eat fish every now and then, and egg, but mostly veggies these days, or else my stomach will burn my throat from the inside (happened quite a lot of times).

[ᶻ𝗓𐰁]

Well I'm vegetarian and I don't have a problem with meat eaters. But I do have a problem with people laying into vegans cause they see them as an easy target. It's just pathetic and childish.

[Sexy Salesman]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Xero_Daxter:

If you eat steak well done you’re a psychopath.

Hitler was a vegetarian noob

[Samwise]

Początkowo opublikowane przez DatCrazyNerf:

It isn't practical or very healthy to be. When you choose to go vegan, you choose to make yourself unhealthier. It's also not very environmentally friendly on a large economical scale, so unless the person grows ALL their vegetables in their own garden, they're probably just naively pretending they're saving the world as they pat themselves on the back.

To be a healthy vegan you need to have extensive knowledge on dietary requirements and you also need to be physically active. It's not that good for the body, and it's not good for your mental health either.

Even Ghandi didn't really like being vegetarian and said it always left him so hungry and depressed.

Faux vegans annoy me. There's very few vegans out there that aren't obnoxious about it and that are actually healthy both mentally and physically.

Don't @ me. I don't care about your opinion and will probably unsubscribe after commenting.

Well, looking at obesity rates in US, i think its fair to say meat eaters there arent any healthier than even poorly educated vegan about nutrient needs. Tbh, i think only very few people understand or care about eating healthy. Most people seems to buy what they like for food, and they're also major salad dodgers, and those who aren't seems to focus too much on salad and get other kind of deficiencies.

[Samwise]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ad Victoriam !:

Początkowo opublikowane przez TDPS:

And racists don’t usually call themselves racist. So what.

Abuse, harm, and exploitation should never be defined by the abuser.

Well, do you know that vegans actually kill way more animals than "non-vegan" peoples ? You know why ? Because an all-vegan diet mean the use of more pesticides to protect cultures from insects, killing them in huge quantities in the process. But insects aren't cute, so we can kill them as we can't make sad pictures with their death. That's why I've said vegans are weak and slaves of their emotions, manipulated by marketing tricks. Their ideology don't even make sense at all and in reality they don't care about life, it's just a pseudo-moral stance and that's it.

Who cares about insects and why should they? Does worms even know they're alive, do they have any intelligence or actual minds? I have always thought insects almost same as plants when it comes to existing.

[100% habibi, 0% jihadi]

Anything vegan tastes bad. I need chicken and beef. But i sometimes feel bad cuz chicklings are cute

[crunchyfrog]

Początkowo opublikowane przez DatCrazyNerf:

It isn't practical or very healthy to be. When you choose to go vegan, you choose to make yourself unhealthier. It's also not very environmentally friendly on a large economical scale, so unless the person grows ALL their vegetables in their own garden, they're probably just naively pretending they're saving the world as they pat themselves on the back.

To be a healthy vegan you need to have extensive knowledge on dietary requirements and you also need to be physically active. It's not that good for the body, and it's not good for your mental health either.

Even Ghandi didn't really like being vegetarian and said it always left him so hungry and depressed.

Faux vegans annoy me. There's very few vegans out there that aren't obnoxious about it and that are actually healthy both mentally and physically.

Don't @ me. I don't care about your opinion and will probably unsubscribe after commenting.

You're quite wrong though.

I don't care whether you say "don't at me" you posted here after all. That#'s how discussions work.

WHy are you wrong?

Simples - and it is NOT opinion. It's objective fact. You do not needd to understand complexitiy and remain a higher standard of health. That's absolute nonsense.

You need no more knowledge than what you'd regularly do when eating any other food.

If your claims were so, then how come so many of my friends have existed and are healthy and in their 60s in many cases?

It's simply not true.

[Netaris]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Samwise:

Who cares about insects and why should they? Does worms even know they're alive, do they have any intelligence or actual minds? I have always thought insects almost same as plants when it comes to existing.

That's exactly what I've said, it's a moral and emotional point of view. I'm a pragmatic person, I don't care at all about your feelings and moral stances. Facts are : without bees, no easy agriculture anymore, without worms and various larvaes, no oxygenation of soils, etc. Without insects, the birds gonna die, lacking food and with them a lot of other species. I don't care if worms are intelligents or not, if they suffer or not, we need them anyway.

Vegans are mostly urban peoples who know nothing about nature and, ironically, a hunter who represent evil in their minds is way closest and usefull to nature's balance than them. I'm tired of these ignorants, they don't even know what plants they can eat in a forest, but want to protect nature, they don't even live close to it in the first place !

I see vegans as weak minded and guilty peoples, manipulated by marketing strategies and falling in it because deep down they know they've divorced long ago with their roots, with their natural environnement. These urbans are the most destructives beings in this society, but they artificially wash their guilt with crazy ideologies. They're totally disconnected to the things they pretend to care about. And your reaction only confirm what I already think about these moral stances and cults.

[permanent name]

Yes, you can clearly see worms getting fatigued and deciding where they want to go and why when they are dug up.

We are conditioned not to extend empathy towards other living things. Especially in the face of evidence.

This is a part of why it’s so easy not to care about other people.

[ᶻ𝗓𐰁]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ad Victoriam !:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Samwise:

Who cares about insects and why should they? Does worms even know they're alive, do they have any intelligence or actual minds? I have always thought insects almost same as plants when it comes to existing.

That's exactly what I've said, it's a moral and emotional point of view. I'm a pragmatic person, I don't care at all about your feelings and moral stances. Facts are : without bees, no easy agriculture anymore, without worms and various larvaes, no oxygenation of soils, etc. Without insects, the birds gonna die, lacking food and with them a lot of other species. I don't care if worms are intelligents or not, if they suffer or not, we need them anyway.

Vegans are mostly urban peoples who know nothing about nature and, ironically, a hunter who represent evil in their minds is way closest and usefull to nature's balance than them. I'm tired of these ignorants, they don't even know what plants they can eat in a forest, but want to protect nature, they don't even live close to it in the first place !

I see vegans as weak minded and guilty peoples, manipulated by marketing strategies and falling in it because deep down they know they've divorced long ago with their roots, with their natural environnement. These urbans are the most destructives beings in this society, but they artificially wash their guilt with crazy ideologies. They're totally disconnected to the things they pretend to care about. And your reaction only confirm what I already think about these moral stances and cults.

You talk a lot for a pragmatist. About stuff you have no way of even knowing. Seems more like you just wanna insult people.

[Xero_Daxter]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Grim Reaper:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Xero_Daxter:

If you eat steak well done you’re a psychopath.

did I ever claim otherwise?

I wasn’t talking to you. I was just saying in general.

[Netaris]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rupika:

You talk a lot for a pragmatist. About stuff you have no way of even knowing. Seems more like you just wanna insult people.

Well, as any human being, I'm not perfect. I know talking is useless, but it don't prevent me to do it. Actually, vegans are the agressors in the first place, with violent demonstrations, attacking hunters, butchers and peoples who don't agree with them, treating them as criminals, calling them "murderers", "carnists" and other big words.

It's only natural that some peoples hate you after doing such things to them. Now, deal with it.