What happend to Disney?

[ハイイロギツネ]

What happend to the quality of Disney in recent years?

Marvel is no longer selling out cinemas and no longer can Hollywood rely on big names like Star Wars and Indiana Jones to make the big bucks.

So the question is what happend and how can they become the top dog again?

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

New answer:

Not molotovs, unfortunately.

[Devsman]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Your_White_Knight:

Well there is talk about Dismaly selling things off to stay afloat...

The real question would be A. Can FOX afford it? and B. Would they want it?

Right now... it's pretty much damaged goods... from the actual comics to the movies it's toast.

X-Men is the hottest intellectual property on earth. I would make MILLIONS were I in charge of such a thing.

Everything Disney is trying to do with Marvel? It's what they SHOULD be doing with X-Men.

X-Men is BASED in racial disparity. If they want to do those type of stories? X-Men is the best possible outlet.

Instead, they want to sell it off. Because Disney is run by the most incompetent people to have ever lived.

If you were in charge of the hottest IP on earth, you'd make millions? What, you planning on selling it two days later?

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

Develop what mean with end games.

Games with a lot of stress on the Hardware & 8K Resolution Games





If you were in charge of the hottest IP on earth, you'd make millions? What, you planning on selling it two days later?

You could make a Movie, put it on the Stream Disney +,
& then go, & sell Disney, cause you don't know if the Movie
will make any money at all, or if it'll cost you money instead.
Selling it right away would protect you from any bad sales,
& it would only hurt whoever bought it, or you could stick
to it, & hope it does well.

If there was any Company i'd want Control of?
I'd have to be Terminator. James Cameron already has a script out there,
all I'd have to do is get a crew together to make it. I mean Cameron
has been nudging the script for a good while, & never followed
through with it at all. You wouldn't even need Arnold at all to do it,
but you would at least need a Cameo of him which would be a small issue.

But most of the work would be easy to put together, because
the material is already there to work with.

And I guess that is why i'd want Control of it.

[talemore]

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Develop what mean with end games.

Games with a lot of stress on the Hardware & 8K Resolution Games





If you were in charge of the hottest IP on earth, you'd make millions? What, you planning on selling it two days later?

You could make a Movie, put it on the Stream Disney +,
& then go, & sell Disney, cause you don't know if the Movie
will make any money at all, or if it'll cost you money instead.
Selling it right away would protect you from any bad sales,
& it would only hurt whoever bought it, or you could stick
to it, & hope it does well.

If there was any Company i'd want Control of?
I'd have to be Terminator. James Cameron already has a script out there,
all I'd have to do is get a crew together to make it. I mean Cameron
has been nudging the script for a good while, & never followed
through with it at all. You wouldn't even need Arnold at all to do it,
but you would at least need a Cameo of him which would be a small issue.

But most of the work would be easy to put together, because
the material is already there to work with.

And I guess that is why i'd want Control of it.

The stress on the hardware is created from power spikes. This is why experts on pc try to create natural choking on the hardware by undersupplying the computer.

The computer will over time demand more power. This is a trick to make the computer life last longer by making sure the computer do not use too much power.

The computer will stll be able to run the game. Consistency over performance.

Memory has been their gatekeeping over years, each 4-6 year they unlock more memory and lock memory. The GPU itself reached maturity. It won't develop further on its own.


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IP do not last forever but is like real estate, you just keep it until someone hopefully buys it in the future.

Hedgefunds uses mentality of the market. They need real living being in flesh and bones to obtain liquidity since themselves are landlocked in their own trades.

While people buy they sell to you because you only buy the lowest price no matter what order.

Liquidity issue for the hedgefunds is why they need the companies to steal money from the retail traders.

No good news is good news since a price who increases reduce the amount of buyers. Likewise the market today already predicted the future prices. What smart money does is buying the shares when the stock increases to a new mark. The drops in the markets are fake and made by the hedgefunds since it's all just dollar in the end. If the dollar would collapse all markets connected to dollars will follow since the value is measured in only dollar. In god we trust, Distrust humans, show anger and hate and despair to increase the value of dollar who is your collar. Don't question who rule you.

It's why all news are bad and buy the rumor and sell the news.

[crunchyfrog]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Your_White_Knight:

Listen.. a "Thor Love & Thunder" isn't going to hold a candle to "Taxi Driver" or "Goodfellas"

It's hard to have a hard effort quality job and have people think that "The Emoji Movie" counts as something "the same" and "worthwhile"... it's not, he's just saying his opinions and he has every right to say it...

Whether you think he does or not... he does.

So that's the bar then. Must be as good as Goodfellas to count as a movie.

Yeah, I'm on the Internet alright.

That's rather dishonest as he didn't say that exclusively.

He gave that as an example. And when you have the respect and likes that film and his others offer from the GENERAL public (and critics as well if you want), then yes, that IS a good metric.

[Jackie Daytona]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jackie Daytona:

X-Men is the hottest intellectual property on earth. I would make MILLIONS were I in charge of such a thing.

"Hottest intellectual property on earth"???... maybe in your world, not this one. Both Marvel and DC print numbers are in the basement... the worst it's been in their history...

I mean seriously?... "Hellfire Gala" = "intellectual"... you really want to be on that hill?

I will agree though on the "Disney is run by the most incompetent people to have ever lived" part..

But even X-Men won't save Marvel now... what Marvel didn't kneecap itself Dismaly finished.

Okay. Okay. I was exaggerating a bit. (Well, more than a bit.) Let me rephrase...

The hottest thing Disney acquired in the Fox merger was the rights to X-Men. Which they have done NOTHING with. And now think they should cut their losses. Before releasing ANYTHING X-Men related.

X-Men prints aren't doing well because of the people running it. I saw a video meeting of the people that run Marvel comics. They think that a scene of Wolverine, Jean Grey, and Cyclops "getting together" (all at once) is a good storyline.

They don't understand the characters. They don't understand their motivations. They don't understand the audience.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jackie Daytona:

X-Men is the hottest intellectual property on earth. I would make MILLIONS were I in charge of such a thing.

Everything Disney is trying to do with Marvel? It's what they SHOULD be doing with X-Men.

If you were in charge of the hottest IP on earth, you'd make millions? What, you planning on selling it two days later?

No. I'd make a dozen television shows, and eight movies. Merchandise like crazy. The "X-Men" label is a license to print money.

The only Marvel property more valuable than X-Men is Spider-man.

In a week I could write an X-Men comic story that would outsell most of the industry. I could write an X-Men movie script in 6 months that would break even. (At the very least.)

My point is that Disney doesn't know what they are doing, or the gold mine they are sitting on.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Garbage executives and garbage writing, and that the cost of a single adult theater ticket easily costs upwards of $15 in many places.

If the executives and writers stopped pushing ESG money backed political agendas from BLACKROCK and the like, and started making movies like it was the 80s or 90s again, with theaters not charging above $10 per ticket...

Then they might make BIG money once more and everything wouldn't just be garbage reboots.

[Ulfrinn]

Critical Drinker had a video that was actually pretty good that goes in depth specifically about female roles in movies today which highlights an overarching issue with the writing. For example, in the 80s he mentions how you had protagonists like Sarah Conner, Ellen Ripley, and more who were for all intents and purposes, average women faced with overwhelming odds against them, and overcoming with characteristics about them that gave them a different kind of strength.

Fast forward to Disney, especially with stuff like Captain Marvel, and what you have is a female character who has powers that greatly exceed everything else, and the only thing stopping her from destroying all her enemies are perceived limitations from society. It's pretty trash writing. It's worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPE7-PRL0M8

[Spencer]

They got converged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrhshJgHTec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN1FtGp3UM8

[Devsman]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jackie Daytona:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Your_White_Knight:

"Hottest intellectual property on earth"???... maybe in your world, not this one. Both Marvel and DC print numbers are in the basement... the worst it's been in their history...

I mean seriously?... "Hellfire Gala" = "intellectual"... you really want to be on that hill? :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

I will agree though on the "Disney is run by the most incompetent people to have ever lived" part..

But even X-Men won't save Marvel now... what Marvel didn't kneecap itself Dismaly finished.

Okay. Okay. I was exaggerating a bit. (Well, more than a bit.) Let me rephrase...

The hottest thing Disney acquired in the Fox merger was the rights to X-Men. Which they have done NOTHING with. And now think they should cut their losses. Before releasing ANYTHING X-Men related.

X-Men prints aren't doing well because of the people running it. I saw a video meeting of the people that run Marvel comics. They think that a scene of Wolverine, Jean Grey, and Cyclops "getting together" (all at once) is a good storyline.

They don't understand the characters. They don't understand their motivations. They don't understand the audience.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Devsman:

If you were in charge of the hottest IP on earth, you'd make millions? What, you planning on selling it two days later?

No. I'd make a dozen television shows, and eight movies. Merchandise like crazy. The "X-Men" label is a license to print money.

The only Marvel property more valuable than X-Men is Spider-man.

In a week I could write an X-Men comic story that would outsell most of the industry. I could write an X-Men movie script in 6 months that would break even. (At the very least.)

My point is that Disney doesn't know what they are doing, or the gold mine they are sitting on.

Are you planning on them being so bad that after the initial fans that will watch regardless, you destroy the property for the next decade, and only after riding the crash, selling it? Because that's literally the only other way to make millions with an M on the "hottest IP on earth."

If you have even the slightest clue what you're doing it should be billions with a B easily.

[Jackie Daytona]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Devsman:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jackie Daytona:

Okay. Okay. I was exaggerating a bit. (Well, more than a bit.) Let me rephrase...

The hottest thing Disney acquired in the Fox merger was the rights to X-Men. Which they have done NOTHING with. And now think they should cut their losses. Before releasing ANYTHING X-Men related.

X-Men prints aren't doing well because of the people running it. I saw a video meeting of the people that run Marvel comics. They think that a scene of Wolverine, Jean Grey, and Cyclops "getting together" (all at once) is a good storyline.

They don't understand the characters. They don't understand their motivations. They don't understand the audience.

No. I'd make a dozen television shows, and eight movies. Merchandise like crazy. The "X-Men" label is a license to print money.

The only Marvel property more valuable than X-Men is Spider-man.

In a week I could write an X-Men comic story that would outsell most of the industry. I could write an X-Men movie script in 6 months that would break even. (At the very least.)

My point is that Disney doesn't know what they are doing, or the gold mine they are sitting on.

Are you planning on them being so bad that after the initial fans that will watch regardless, you destroy the property for the next decade, and only after riding the crash, selling it? Because that's literally the only other way to make millions with an M on the "hottest IP on earth."

If you have even the slightest clue what you're doing it should be billions with a B easily.

The X-Men audience will buy everything you put out. I'd buy a $20(usd) Rogue figure based on her early 1990's appearance.

Disney's biggest problem is that they aim for billions instead of millions. Just get what you can get. Duh.

I could make X-Men so good that it would (not only) have wide-appeal, meet ESG standards, be acceptable by Hollywood... It would also make tons of money.

[Ganger]

It's to easy to say 'go woke, go broke' but it's deeper than that. Now we have on demand TV such as netflix and amazon prime and on top of that we have people watching rumble and youtube (which has some of the best content for documenties, story telling, podcasts, talk shows, travelling etc). And then we have gaming which as alot of people hooked. All of this is taking away customers from disney and with all the woke BS and changing known character races and pushing sex on kids again all due to a woke agenda, people really are starting to dislike disney and the mainstream.

[Ulfrinn]

It's definitely a case of people having a lot more options available to them, that there's no need to deal with the politicization anymore. When I stopped watching TV, I was already limited to just documentaries, but science and history channel crap became pretty politicized too, and then was replaced completely with reality shows. There are definitely far better content creators than those channels ever were, available elsewhere. Metatron for example is pretty good for history.

[Your_White_Knight]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jackie Daytona:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Devsman:

Are you planning on them being so bad that after the initial fans that will watch regardless, you destroy the property for the next decade, and only after riding the crash, selling it? Because that's literally the only other way to make millions with an M on the "hottest IP on earth."

If you have even the slightest clue what you're doing it should be billions with a B easily.

The X-Men audience will buy everything you put out. I'd buy a $20(usd) Rogue figure based on her early 1990's appearance.

Disney's biggest problem is that they aim for billions instead of millions. Just get what you can get. Duh.

I could make X-Men so good that it would (not only) have wide-appeal, meet ESG standards, be acceptable by Hollywood... It would also make tons of money.

Well more to the point Dismaly's biggest problem is they don't aim for the X-Men audience... they want to make a "new" X-Men X-People show for "new" fans... that don't care as much as the original fans do... and the numbers and money loss show it.

The "if we build it they will come and be fans of it" doesn't work... one has to get fans first... then build on that. And they always lose the fans because it's not what the fans want... every time.

Right now though... the fans that were... aren't any more, they've given up being fans, even if Dismaly would abandon all it's agendas and subversion and put out a pure X-Men show / move

I doubt there's enough fans left... Dismaly has poisoned that well for good now...

Edit: And now Dismaly is even poisoning their own well...

https://youtu.be/7TTMd4kqE74

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ganger:

It's to easy to say 'go woke, go broke' but it's deeper than that. Now we have on demand TV such as netflix and amazon prime and on top of that we have people watching rumble and youtube (which has some of the best content for documenties, story telling, podcasts, talk shows, travelling etc). And then we have gaming which as alot of people hooked. All of this is taking away customers from disney and with all the woke BS and changing known character races and pushing sex on kids again all due to a woke agenda, people really are starting to dislike disney and the mainstream.

The problem with the "go woke go broke" thing is it's compelte bollocks.

For a start, nobody who cries about wokeness can even define it to any degree that anyone else who cries about it agrees with. It's such a useless bogeyman that it covers ANYTHING that people don't agree with.

I note the hilarious report recently that some evangelicals are calling Jesus too woke now, which speaks volumes, even though they are fringe nutters.

The point is there's also no bloody evidence anyway. Take Barbie and how that was decried by the usual idiots as "woke". Yeah that's really going broke....