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Gabe Newell Takes A Flamethrower To The Metaverse And NFTs
Back when blockchain gaming was first starting to take off, Steam took an early stance that it would not allow blockchain-based games on its platform, while rivals like Epic Games said they were more open to it. Now, Gabe is talking about both that decision, and all the tech hype surrounding the “metaverse.” It’s…kind of amazing.


"The things that were being done were super sketchy. And there was some illegal ♥♥♥♥ that was going on behind the scenes, and you're just like, yeah, this is bad. Blockchains as a technology are a great technology, that the ways in which has been utilized are currently are all pretty sketchy. And you sort of want to stay away from that…. The people who are currently active in that space are not usually good actors."

And on the metaverse (via PC Gamer):

"There's a bunch of get rich quick schemes around metaverse. Most of the people who are talking about metaverse have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. And they've apparently never played an MMO. They're like, 'Oh, you'll have this customizable avatar.' And it's like, well... go into La Noscea in Final Fantasy 14 and tell me that this isn't a solved problem from a decade ago, not some fabulous thing that you're, you know, inventing.

Here, Newell is saying plainly what many in the gaming community have been thinking when it comes to the “metaverse” presented as a bunch of blockchain-based Second Life knockoffs that are selling virtual real-estate to stupid business brands for millions. Meanwhile, actual metaverses, immersive video games, have been around for decades and already do all the things and much, much more than these newcomers.

Very few people in this space will speak this frankly about the current gold rush situation when it comes to the blockchain, NFTs and the metaverse, but it’s great to hear from industry icon Gabe here to set the record straight.

The future of blockchain gaming and the metaverse remains hazy. Traditional publishers have been mostly scared away from offering NFTs in their games after massive, violent pushback from players whenever the issue comes up. Blockchain gaming remains its own space mostly occupied by crypto enthusiasts, not core gamers. And as for the metaverse? The main blockchain metaverses probably have no more than 10,000 DAUs combined, less than the top hundred games on Steam. Facebook is pushing for its VR-focused metaverse with Horizon, but few trust them to get it right, and they’ve already run into many privacy and harassment issues there.

The Steam Deck? Now that’s an advancement that’s a much easier sell, PC gaming on the go. And no controversies are erupting as a result.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/02/26/valves-gabe-newell-takes-a-flamethrower-to-the-metaverse-and-nfts/amp/
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Von-Reaper 27 Feb 2022 @ 1:03am 
@rupika
Its more of a fact that it seeming like its all just buzzwords and bs.
I honestly don't care about it.
Ita more of just,why?
Castyles 27 Feb 2022 @ 2:18am 
Praise GabeN.
I know Gaben IS browsing Off-Topic time-to-time. :old_wizard:
Dracoco OwO 27 Feb 2022 @ 3:27am 
Based takes.
crunchyfrog 27 Feb 2022 @ 4:15am 
To be fair he didn't take a flamethrower to it.

He just decided to speak from the point of view of one thing - REALITY.

Sadly that's a place crypto bros andNFTbros and the idiots who sing the metaverse as something new even though when anyone tries to define it, they talk about early 2000s Second Life.

Funny that some people still live in reality, isn't it?
Based GabeN.

Every time I hear "Metacerse" I just point out that "Second Life" has been around for over a decade and that VR chat already exists.
crunchyfrog 27 Feb 2022 @ 5:29am 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Sir Dookface McFerretballs:
Based GabeN.

Every time I hear "Metacerse" I just point out that "Second Life" has been around for over a decade and that VR chat already exists.
Yeah this is the thing.

The bros that get involved in this ♥♥♥♥ are the same people who get involved in any cscam, as they are falling for the same sort of buzzword driven non explanations and shiny stuff.

The way to cut through this is to outright ask the claimant "how does this metaverse ACTUALLY manifest"? What does it llok like and what is it going to do DEFINITELY?

And they always trip up by simply repeating their vague nonsese, weseal words, cop outs and other vague nothing speak.

The sad fact is when you put this to idiots on Earth 2 or on any NFT based ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the same happens. The best you'll get is "well, it doesn't DO anything yet". Then you ask what it will do and you get the vague nothing burger.

It's all smoke and mirrors and nothing else, and exactly like Elon Musk those that DO actually claim things are going to happen, are just explaining stuff we've had for decades to an audience that didn't know they existed.

Just like Elon Musk and his hyperloop - look at the people who salivated over that long vacuum tube with supersonice cars travelling within. Those that had ♥♥♥♥ all knowledge of basic science wouldn't know it was abandoned over 100 years previously for the same reason as it fell apart now.

I wish people would actually learn to analyze basic claims.
man gaben really saw a monkey and said "burn" lmao
Diposting pertama kali oleh Fake:
*Not a flamethrower
Symbolical
The way I see NFT is just a respin on existing tech/feature that already solve all said problems, but adds more steps, and problems.

Metaverse is cheap shortsighted most of the time for decades, when comes to such thing the closest thing that exist in video game space is Second Life, Roblox, VRchat, and so on, while others try to impersonate and try to resell back to everyone as if it new idea. When look at VR space, that some big moves towards metaverse ideas. When there people screaming need blockchain, or NFT they're a joke because that doesn't appeal to anyone as it only marketing nothing else, as why do need to restrict, or limit thing.

I wonder how more bad things will get when NFT becomes mainstream.
crunchyfrog 27 Feb 2022 @ 12:44pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
The way I see NFT is just a respin on existing tech/feature that already solve all said problems, but adds more steps, and problems.

Metaverse is cheap shortsighted most of the time for decades, when comes to such thing the closest thing that exist in video game space is Second Life, Roblox, VRchat, and so on, while others try to impersonate and try to resell back to everyone as if it new idea. When look at VR space, that some big moves towards metaverse ideas. When there people screaming need blockchain, or NFT they're a joke because that doesn't appeal to anyone as it only marketing nothing else, as why do need to restrict, or limit thing.

I wonder how more bad things will get when NFT becomes mainstream.
NFTs are a classic case of a solution looking for a problem.

All they've done is try to find something to pin on the blockchain and the fact it's nothing says it all really. It's rather pitiful.

Also the blockchain is nothing like the big cure-all that some are saying either. So far we've seen this immutable blockchain that is permanent, be fleeced and have stuff stolen, plus other BFTs and "metaverse" type things being sold WITHOUT being on any sort of blockchain (like in Earth 2).

It's all complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, even when it IS as claimed.
Diposting pertama kali oleh crunchyfrog:
Diposting pertama kali oleh Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
The way I see NFT is just a respin on existing tech/feature that already solve all said problems, but adds more steps, and problems.

Metaverse is cheap shortsighted most of the time for decades, when comes to such thing the closest thing that exist in video game space is Second Life, Roblox, VRchat, and so on, while others try to impersonate and try to resell back to everyone as if it new idea. When look at VR space, that some big moves towards metaverse ideas. When there people screaming need blockchain, or NFT they're a joke because that doesn't appeal to anyone as it only marketing nothing else, as why do need to restrict, or limit thing.

I wonder how more bad things will get when NFT becomes mainstream.
NFTs are a classic case of a solution looking for a problem.

All they've done is try to find something to pin on the blockchain and the fact it's nothing says it all really. It's rather pitiful.

Also the blockchain is nothing like the big cure-all that some are saying either. So far we've seen this immutable blockchain that is permanent, be fleeced and have stuff stolen, plus other BFTs and "metaverse" type things being sold WITHOUT being on any sort of blockchain (like in Earth 2).

It's all complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, even when it IS as claimed.
Pretty much, it funny when hear about earth 2 where people throwing money at virtual land that is a clone of Google earth/map, then hear some of the same people getting upset more clones of Earth 2 start popping up, and they realize it was a huge ponzi from the start, it makes people wonder do half the people that have crypto even know what they're throwing money at to begin with rather than scareaming it the future, it just makes me think of pet rock, or beanie baby lol.
crunchyfrog 27 Feb 2022 @ 1:17pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Diposting pertama kali oleh crunchyfrog:
NFTs are a classic case of a solution looking for a problem.

All they've done is try to find something to pin on the blockchain and the fact it's nothing says it all really. It's rather pitiful.

Also the blockchain is nothing like the big cure-all that some are saying either. So far we've seen this immutable blockchain that is permanent, be fleeced and have stuff stolen, plus other BFTs and "metaverse" type things being sold WITHOUT being on any sort of blockchain (like in Earth 2).

It's all complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, even when it IS as claimed.
Pretty much, it funny when hear about earth 2 where people throwing money at virtual land that is a clone of Google earth/map, then hear some of the same people getting upset more clones of Earth 2 start popping up, and they realize it was a huge ponzi from the start, it makes people wonder do half the people that have crypto even know what they're throwing money at to begin with rather than scareaming it the future, it just makes me think of pet rock, or beanie baby lol.
I defo agree.

I've had immense enjoyment purely from the schadenfreude of laughing at the idiots there. It's no so much anything except their ad hoc excuses they cook up to try and dismiss their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Frankly all Earth 2 is is exactly the same as something my mum and dad used to do when we had a pub.

On the run up to Christmas every year, they'd have a large square of card they'd hang on the wall of the pub. They'd draw up a grid on it (like the Earth 2 map is), and any patron could buy a square that was numbered. Sign their name in it.

Get to Christmas, and a draw is made. Whoever gets the winning number gets the pot.

Funny that a simple piece of card can prove to be just the same as their so-called futuristic "game". At least the patrons actually got some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ money out of it, which is more than they'll ever do.
Samwise 27 Feb 2022 @ 1:30pm 
I didnt understand any of that
Diposting pertama kali oleh Samwise:
I didnt understand any of that
Me too. :milliethinker:
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