What's my GPU worth?
Hey, me again! I just saw that the 5070 was revealed, and that it'll have some decent power behind it for a good price. I currently have an AMD Merc Speedster 7900xt, and was thinking about selling it when it came out to afford the 5070.

Obviously I know it's not gonna cover the whole cost, especially since it's used, but if I did sell my GPU, how much do you think it'd be worth?

The GPU in question: XFX Speedster MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900XT Ultra Gaming Graphics Card

Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-MERC310-Graphics-RX-79TMERCU9/dp/B0BNLT17XQ?crid=2LYQXIM5YU5YO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AmH22buWFW2gLFV6LNvWiGhoMvtDH15kNHZ9OoeDD06TxTN179i5WAylSCoTHY_bJb_-aIPHGiDxAcu3n-l-ZwMVTbn4yqCveXgBNccuDgPkl3zjiJhzCEmUXoAi055kd71nkGrCW0P7DxMNhN301C7PhipUGzL2UX6YrBDrnZwzaRHfaaG6Gc2oDcREiDIami4Bu8GriBUhEV44bd48E0plW75bOAbIqez8eJIULrc.dxtw2stBhhkvBnC0UOiiPfGdiS6ytm8if1KCn4zz5OI&dib_tag=se&keywords=merc+speedster+7900xt&qid=1736298771&sprefix=merc+speedster+7900xt%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-1

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What`s the point. Pretty sure 7900XT rasterization performance is equal or better then on 5070 and all this perceived "power" is DLSS.
Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
What`s the point. Pretty sure 7900XT rasterization performance is equal or better then on 5070 and all this perceived "power" is DLSS.
Honestly, I had no idea, I'm not really tech savvy myself so I'm not even sure what that means. Believe it or not a major driving factor is the fact that the 7900XT's drivers are just complete ass; half of my games barely work since I switched to AMD, including some older favorites like New Vegas and Fallout 3.
Originally posted by Blumpkin Man:
Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
What`s the point. Pretty sure 7900XT rasterization performance is equal or better then on 5070 and all this perceived "power" is DLSS.
Honestly, I had no idea, I'm not really tech savvy myself so I'm not even sure what that means. Believe it or not a major driving factor is the fact that the 7900XT's drivers are just complete ass; half of my games barely work since I switched to AMD, including some older favorites like New Vegas and Fallout 3.

You dont need to upgrade on every generation. Keep your current gpu, it's perfectly fine
xDDD Jan 8 @ 1:02am 
You're better off looking on ebay or Facebook or something to get a better benchmark for a used GPU.
I'd say go on ebay, search "7900xt" (maybe even add MERC) and then on the left side apply the [Sold Item] filter and it will show you 7900xts that have successfully sold. From a quick glance it seems like the XFT Speedster MERC310s are generally going between $550 and $675 or so with a some outliers. Pretty wide range.


Something worth noting is that a lot of people will be having the same exact idea as you, so used GPU prices will likely go down a bit when the new GPUs start releasing due to increased supply and lowered demand.
(That's when I plan to upgrade my GPU, to be honest)
Originally posted by Blumpkin Man:
Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
What`s the point. Pretty sure 7900XT rasterization performance is equal or better then on 5070 and all this perceived "power" is DLSS.
Honestly, I had no idea, I'm not really tech savvy myself so I'm not even sure what that means. Believe it or not a major driving factor is the fact that the 7900XT's drivers are just complete ass; half of my games barely work since I switched to AMD, including some older favorites like New Vegas and Fallout 3.
I had a 7900XT for a while (exact same gpu as you), the drivers were fine. Fallout 3 and New Vegas were literally the only two games I had issues running. I wound up using this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/17209
to get them working. Didn't try much other modding tho.

As for the upgrade question, the whole "RTX 5070 performs the same as the 4090" is with DLSS on. Un-enhanced performance will be less than the 4090, potentially a LOT less. Nvidia pulled the same marketing bs with RTX 4060.
Last edited by AbedsBrother; Jan 8 @ 1:54am
Though unlike before, there's actually something to it. People who don't care where their performance comes from, whether it be "traditional bruteforce rendering" or "fake frames" would be satisfied with a 5070 being relatively close to a 4090 in terms of just raw FPS in those particular games if they only play games that support DLSS.

Otherwise then yeah, it's probably only going to be marginally better than a 4070 and probably not even as fast as a 4080 in games where DLSS isn't supported, and if every game actually supported DLSS and didn't have issues at all with MFG, then AMD would be absolutely screwed at this point until they follow suit and do the exact same thing.
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shiel Jan 8 @ 2:54am 
Your 7900XT will be fine. 5070 looks like a mediocre gpu that depends on frame generation to do anything. Current frame gen feels terrible in games, I fail to see how adding another generated frame will do anything but make it worse.
_I_ Jan 8 @ 2:59am 
frame gen is like how the first flat panel tvs did the motion smoothing adding huge delays to for it to make 60hz into 120hz

game mode turned that off because of the delays
why amd and nvidia are doing that on the gpu side is beyond me
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shiel Jan 8 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by _I_:
frame gen is like how the first flat panel tvs did the motion smoothing adding huge delays to for it to make 60hz into 120hz

game mode turned that off because of the delays
why amd and nvidia are doing that on the gpu side is beyond me
In the words of Steve from GN: "Bigger number better"
Not to mention you would be swapping 20 GB VRAM to 12 GB.
Don't fall for marketing and wait for actual reviews. Jensen is a good marketer, and apparently it shows.

Don't forget his job is to make you want something you don't need and won't likely enjoy post-purchase. You just have to be WOWed enough past its return date or until the next big thing comes.

Companies love when people are tricked into updating things every year like cellphones, smart watches, some people even change cars yearly.

But at the end of the day, is it worth the money? Only you know. Me? I think not.

And as others have pointed out, losing that VRAM can be an issue down the line.

As long as game devs are too lazy to optimise games, we can expect the issue of VRAM to persist -- which is true for certain in games that Nvidia themselves put their greasy hands into.

Upsell tech by releasing demos that make older tech obsolete through the use of "newer" yet inefficient methods to achieve less or the same thing -- that's where we are at with graphics fidelity and it's your choice to play along with it or turn against it.
One of the bad sides of the current tech landscape is that hardware and gaming companies are leaning into FOMO more these days because they found out there's enough people with it.

There's more games than ever before vying for our limited time and attention. "Limited time availability" offers keeps us hooked.

The internet is a fast moving place. New hardware releases, everyone talks about it, and people want to be part of it so they buy the thing to be part of the moment. And then the moment passes.

It's all FOMO.

If you really want to make a change though (maybe you want more performance, maybe you want to move to nVidia's drivers, or whatever), then at least wait for real benchmarks. All we have is a marketing presentation and pricing. And while the prices seem "good"... that's mostly presuming performance goes up roughly a tier at each point. If it doesn't (or if it only does under DLSS conditions), then that explains the pricing. Either way, pricing alone is irrelevant until performance is known.

I'm surprised how many people are literally buying the RTX 5070 equals RTX 4090 thing. I would have thought it was obvious since it was comparing not like-for-like conditions, where one had DLSS and the other doesn't. Expect to see nVidia obfuscate comparisons with every new release where it makes the new one look way better than it is on average and in most real world conditions.

It might seem easy to believe though since the RTX 4070 Ti could match an RTX 3090, right? Sort of, but even that wasn't entirely true, and that was a wildly different situation because of how different the RTX 30 and RTX 40 series were structured. The x80 and x90 were basically in the "almost the same" performance spot in the RTX 30 series. It's common knowledge "the RTX 3080 Ti was an RTX 3090 with less VRAM". So you're really saying the RTX 4070 Ti matched the RTX 3080 Ti (and that the RTX 4070 matched the RTX 3080). So the old example was "one GPU moved up a tier" which is the traditional norm and nothing exceptional.

There's two differences now. The x80 and x90 now have a meaningful gap and aren't the same, and the x70 is also split into two launch tiers. So this new claim of the lower x70 matching the previous x90 is more akin to something like "card moves up something like two and a half tiers", which is far less believable. I'm shocked people are buying into it based on cherry pick, situational conditions.
almost any pc can be a great pc performance and graphics wise.just build it correctly
a 1080p build cant look and perform great.you can run in ultra and have high fps
with great graphics same as a 1440 or 4k build.of course the higher res's will graphically
be sharper and better overall graphs but a well built pc is nothing to sneeze at.if your
happy with your performance no need to upgrade..if not figure out where you went wrong
in your build..more likely than not its usually running the wrong resolution.
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Vox Jan 8 @ 7:45am 
I'll give you $3.50 for it
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