What CPU would be worth upgrading from a i7-2600 or stay

[AlienC]

Currently have a i7-2600 GTX 1050ti low profile 32gb ddr3 ram 2.5tb of ssd and 8tb hdd all in a HP 8200 Compaq

Thinking about upgrading in the future. A 1080ti looks good for value or a 1080.

What CPU should I upgrade to to utilize the high end GPU's just for strictly gaming.

I will be playing some intensive CPU bound games with a bunch of physics and simulation type stuff.

I know 8700K is basically the king but trying to save money if possible but also want the best bang for buck.. basically where diminishing returns versus price starts..

My logic is a 1080ti is pretty much 3 to 4x the performance of a 1050 so the price for me is justified. However with CPU I don't know how much say a jump from a i7-2600 and motherboard to say a low end or mid range 8th gen cpu like a 8100 or 8400 will be in terms of performance and architecture difference.. somebody more expertised please enlighten me on best cpu choice or replacement or to just keep the Sandy bridge (but my research says the Sandy bridge might bottle neck me or cause quite a bit of loss or gap in performance compared to something maybe better)

What is the sweet spot cpu mobo build for just purely high end GPU single card gaming.

May or may not multi monitor or go 4K.

Also is my ram ok? Or should I jump to ddr4.

[AlienC]

So you guys think selling my current pc and upgrading it is not worth it. I don't mind paying more if the price to performance is justified or better. I think a 1080/1080ti price is justified because it's performance scales with the price very generously but cpu I'm not sure. I could probably sell the case cpu motherboard psu for $200 usd maybe then get better parts second hand. Just need to know what my optimal ideal replacement cpu motherboard case psu would be with a 1080ti 32gb ram 2 x ssd 2 x hdd 1 x DVD RW 1 x WiFi network card.. Case doesn't matter just want something as small as possible.. Psu not sure forgot the formula to work out ideal power supply for this pc and will depend maybe on cpu and motherboard choice

[hawkeye]

I would buy a new pc when the new nvidia gpus are released.

You won't notice much difference between what you have now and an upgrade if you play at 60 fps 1080p. So if you just want some more fps to get you to 60 at low cost get a 1070 (if your psu has the connectors).

If you want a lot better performance then you might as well wait as any gpu you buy now might be outdated in a few months time. Some reports state that the new cards have much the same hardware components but revised firmware which gives them much better performance. Time will tell if this is true one way or another.

If you upgrade keep the old pc to download, watch tv, backup etc. It's worth having two pc's for the time when one is down and you need to download a new bios or something similar.

Note that a 2600 won't drive a 1080ti fully on many games. I have a 2600 and upgraded from a 970 to a 1080ti. The 970 wasn't strong enough to run enb's on bethesda games at more than 40 fps, so I bought a 1080ti at a time when gpus were a lot cheaper than they are now.

[36564176]

just upgrade the graphics card, upgrade the cpu when it has a noticable bottleneck

[AlienC]

I think I should make a new post maybe asking what cpu best to put with a 1080ti before diminishing returns apply.

[Sapph]

Opprinnelig skrevet av AlienC:

I think I should make a new post maybe asking what cpu best to put with a 1080ti before diminishing returns apply.

Pretty much i5 8600K. Past that, no difference will be seen as gpu will be maxing out.

[upcoast]

https://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/76333-i7-2600k-vs-i7-8700k-upgrading-worthwhile-14.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R64UcOew0A


Imho, 1440p sure but 4k is too much of a mixed bag on the whole fps subject.

Ps, or again wait it out for the next run of cpus.

[AlienC]

Next or last question now I guess.

I want to go ultra small form factor for one of my next builds.

Have been looking at some Dan cases, s4 mini's, nfc stuff, corsair sff some other modular stuff but all very small.

Anyone have any hands on experience with this or read some good reviews. What's the verdict?

I have heard the cooling side isn't too bad and performance hit is negligible.

As long as the price isn't too high (or at least better than going laptop equivalent) I really wanna go sff so I can fit it in my backpack or hiking bag and keep it out of sight and have a beast tiny computer that can hold the usual suspects and maybe 2 x ssd and 2 x hdd, 1 x WiFi card (no DVD drive probably on this one)

I know even less about this topic but have been watching Tek Everything, Not From Concentrate, bitwit, Linus Tech Tips, Hardware Canucks, NCIX, Gamers Nexus among others and some smaller channels and now trying to find the best one for a fully equipped out setup.

My place away from parents house gets pretty cold so should help with cooling I. E mini space heater.

My secondary place aka fathers place should be ok has some ventilation but about 10 degrees warmer if not more on average.

Hopefully by then steam link over the net might be more progressed and I can even let it run at my cold place and stream it over the net to my father's place to get better cooling.

But yeah really wanna go small form factor for multiple reasons one mainly no space and two easier to hide from some who may not approve.. Long story.

My current 8200 HP Compaq case was picked for this reason as well as because it was at a good price and good specs.

Will be doing everything under the sun on this computer from gaming to developing to audio production to video editing.

Will be using my 2 ssds (2TB Micron 1100 and 500gb Samsung Evo 850) and 8TB Seagate HDD.

Small form factor builders and aficionados and enthusiasts come to my aid the balls of gondor await you!

[InfinityJosh]

Opprinnelig skrevet av AlienC:

Next or last question now I guess.

I want to go ultra small form factor for one of my next builds.

Have been looking at some Dan cases, s4 mini's, nfc stuff, corsair sff some other modular stuff but all very small.

Anyone have any hands on experience with this or read some good reviews. What's the verdict?

I have heard the cooling side isn't too bad and performance hit is negligible.

As long as the price isn't too high (or at least better than going laptop equivalent) I really wanna go sff so I can fit it in my backpack or hiking bag and keep it out of sight and have a beast tiny computer that can hold the usual suspects and maybe 2 x ssd and 2 x hdd, 1 x WiFi card (no DVD drive probably on this one)

I know even less about this topic but have been watching Tek Everything, Not From Concentrate, bitwit, Linus Tech Tips, Hardware Canucks, NCIX, Gamers Nexus among others and some smaller channels and now trying to find the best one for a fully equipped out setup.

My place away from parents house gets pretty cold so should help with cooling I. E mini space heater.

My secondary place aka fathers place should be ok has some ventilation but about 10 degrees warmer if not more on average.

Hopefully by then steam link over the net might be more progressed and I can even let it run at my cold place and stream it over the net to my father's place to get better cooling.

But yeah really wanna go small form factor for multiple reasons one mainly no space and two easier to hide from some who may not approve.. Long story.

My current 8200 HP Compaq case was picked for this reason as well as because it was at a good price and good specs.

Will be doing everything under the sun on this computer from gaming to developing to audio production to video editing.

Will be using my 2 ssds (2TB Micron 1100 and 500gb Samsung Evo 850) and 8TB Seagate HDD.

Small form factor builders and aficionados and enthusiasts come to my aid the balls of gondor await you!

which kind of games you play?

[Kaldaien]

I went from an i7 3820 to a Ryzen 7 2700x. These are two entirely different classes of CPU, with the 3820 occupying the market segment Threadripper does now.

AMD's new CPUs are the only compelling reason I found in the 7 years since I got that CPU to upgrade. I don't regret it at all, because 8 cores / 16 threads speeds up software compiling a TON.

The CPU is also proving helpful in a few recent console ports that don't scale their thread count back on PC hardware (i.e. Assassin's Creed: Origins, its engine distributes threads in a way that's only sensible on 8-core systems even if you're running 2 cores it likewise doesn't increase the number of threads if you have more than 8). I expect to see a lot more engines doing this in the coming years with no attempt to scale up or down

So it's somewhat reasonable to upgrade for gaming. Single-threaded performance is starting to no longer matter and you're going to suffer running a 4 core CPU.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Of course performance per core will matter but also of course twice ad many similar cores are better.

[andreasaspenberg575]

your cpu should be good enough for a gtx 1080 ti. if you have bad airflow, you could invest in a new chassis and port everything over.

[AlienC]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Infinity Josh:

Opprinnelig skrevet av AlienC:

Next or last question now I guess.

I want to go ultra small form factor for one of my next builds.

Have been looking at some Dan cases, s4 mini's, nfc stuff, corsair sff some other modular stuff but all very small.

Anyone have any hands on experience with this or read some good reviews. What's the verdict?

I have heard the cooling side isn't too bad and performance hit is negligible.

As long as the price isn't too high (or at least better than going laptop equivalent) I really wanna go sff so I can fit it in my backpack or hiking bag and keep it out of sight and have a beast tiny computer that can hold the usual suspects and maybe 2 x ssd and 2 x hdd, 1 x WiFi card (no DVD drive probably on this one)

I know even less about this topic but have been watching Tek Everything, Not From Concentrate, bitwit, Linus Tech Tips, Hardware Canucks, NCIX, Gamers Nexus among others and some smaller channels and now trying to find the best one for a fully equipped out setup.

My place away from parents house gets pretty cold so should help with cooling I. E mini space heater.

My secondary place aka fathers place should be ok has some ventilation but about 10 degrees warmer if not more on average.

Hopefully by then steam link over the net might be more progressed and I can even let it run at my cold place and stream it over the net to my father's place to get better cooling.

But yeah really wanna go small form factor for multiple reasons one mainly no space and two easier to hide from some who may not approve.. Long story.

My current 8200 HP Compaq case was picked for this reason as well as because it was at a good price and good specs.

Will be doing everything under the sun on this computer from gaming to developing to audio production to video editing.

Will be using my 2 ssds (2TB Micron 1100 and 500gb Samsung Evo 850) and 8TB Seagate HDD.

Small form factor builders and aficionados and enthusiasts come to my aid the balls of gondor await you!

which kind of games you play?

Honestly anything but want to try most triple aaa titles from first person to third person rpgs to some current gen rts games.

Lots of shooters and some turn based games. Basically have a huge back log to catch up from gta v to fallout to far cry to skyrim.

My passion is classic style rts but honestly not much to choose from. Maybe total war and Grey goo and some others only atm.


Will probably not play some city simulators much but want to try any with some sort of combat or ones like Banished.

Want to aim for 4k on a TV with sufficient power for 1080p proper 24 inch monitor gaming also.

So yeah no real genre but most of the hits.

Most cpu intensive stuff I can think of is simulation games with lots of physics or number crunching or lots of npcs like roller coaster sims and big strategy games.

[andreasaspenberg575]

the i7-2600 should be good for a while longer unless your motherboard is too old for a new graphics card (i know mine is). i have an i7-2600 myself and my motherboard can not handle graphics cards above 600 series. if you already have a 1000 series however, anything within that should work. you have enough memory but your graphics card might cause a bottleneck in many modern games. i suggest upgrading that first. if after upgrading that you find a bottleneck you can just upgrade the rest afterwards. there is no trouble to transfer graphics cards from motherboard to motherboard. just do not do it too often or you might wear out the connectors. one time is no problem however.

[AlienC]

Problem is it is a proprietary system which means the case psu and motherboard is all in one and cannot be changed really. I cannot upgrade this system in particular from a 1050Ti for few reasons

1) I am stuck with this psu cannot change it
2) case is small form factor so only low profile cards can fit so the 1050ti low profile is my best option to satisfy psu and size requirements
3) yeah that is pretty much it. Size and power supply constraints.

If I could change the psu then I could buy a Zotac GTX 1080 mini and use that maybe if it fits. Otherwise I don't think I can go above this card power wise.

[andreasaspenberg575]

you could change chassis, just buy a new one and move the hardware over. that will solve your chassis space prolems unless you have no room for a bigger chassis that is. the motherboard is screwed into the chassis so you only need to loosen the screws.