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I got a Game Ban so you don't have to - How and why Steam need better support when it comes to Steam game bans
Hi all,

I recently fell victim to developer blackmail and revenge tactics after their game got removed from Steam for employing scam marketplace items.

Here's the story as to what happened, how I got the ban overturned, and why Steam needs better support when it comes to these.

Overall, Steam Support should really allow a more personalised and direct appeal system when it comes to this kind of stuff. I admit I'm in a priviliged position when it comes to others, but it shouldn't take someone having a direct line to Steam to get a game ban overturned.

Everyone needs the ability to appeal, end of.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Sentinels_of_the_Store/announcements/detail/813567935677203784
Последно редактиран от Mellow_Online1; 16 март в 9:07
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Първоначално публикувано от C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Първоначално публикувано от Mad Scientist:
Amazed the threads still going as it doesn't seem like it's been about the OPs scenario for a long time. Most of the discussion here is from another thread which is better left in the other thread.
Well, certain users have been trying to ride this threads' coat tails for a long while. Trying to make their scenario fit this one.

So why does that bother you?
If this is leisure to you, you need to find a new hobby. This one isn't going to get you anywhere.
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:
Първоначално публикувано от C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Well, certain users have been trying to ride this threads' coat tails for a long while. Trying to make their scenario fit this one.

So why does that bother you?
There's one big difference. The ban that the author of this thread had, was removed.

I don't know the specifics, but I can almost guarantee you that his ban wasn't 2 years old either.

Are you trying to live vicariously through the author of this thread or something?

Also, you will stop eventually. With enough warnings or forum bans.

Also, being an indie developer, is irrelevant. It's a developer ban. Period.

You also aren't fooling anyone here, as within the last few weeks your arguments are completely irrational. Calling something that is clearly a loss, a win. Threatening to ban the developer that banned your account, calling yourself a developer.

It's really quite sad that you can't see how ridiculous you look.

312 games is "so many" since when?
Последно редактиран от C²C^Guyver |NZB|; 24 апр. в 19:07
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:

Exactly. Reverse uno. Just like game bans for no reason or any reason doesn't make sense, so yes.

You're still not making any sense my dude. You're not going to "reverse uno" the developer who banned you, because you don't have the power to ban them at all. You saying you do is a complete lie and you have yet to prove that your statement on this is the truth.

Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:
They were twisted and taken literally on purpose for trolling purposes too. Or to bait me to say something that would forum ban me. Shows who the real "toxic" ones are.

Nothing was twisted and no one is trying to bait you. We're trying to correct incorrect information that you continue to post and also to get you to actually do what it is you keep saying you're going to do. And every time we tell you to do it, you just keep saying that it will be done, despite the fact that it never does.

Again, grow up, do what you say you will do and move on.
The thread should've been locked ages ago when those two hijacked the entire thread with their nonsensical fanfic.
Първоначално публикувано от The Commendatore:
The thread should've been locked ages ago when those two hijacked the entire thread with their nonsensical fanfic.
And deprive the regulars a chance to engage in the sort of discussions they love above all else? Why?
Първоначално публикувано от C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:

So why does that bother you?
There's one big difference. The ban that the author of this thread had, was removed.

I don't know the specifics, but I can almost guarantee you that his ban wasn't 2 years old either.

Are you trying to live vicariously through the author of this thread or something?

Also, you will stop eventually. With enough warnings or forum bans.

Also, being an indie developer, is irrelevant. It's a developer ban. Period.

You also aren't fooling anyone here, as within the last few weeks your arguments are completely irrational. Calling something that is clearly a loss, a win. Threatening to ban the developer that banned your account, calling yourself a developer.

It's really quite sad that you can't see how ridiculous you look.

312 games is "so many" since when?

And you also missed his point, especially continuing to believe game bans are legit bans other than wordings stained on a profile.

The length doesn't matter. If he waited 2 years then ran into his boy at Valve and asked to remove it, then what?

Never claimed to.

It's a, "here you have button press to anyone because we don't monitor indie games". The FACT the indie developer of this thread got their game banned is one of the reasons Valve would do something about it but guess what it proved? Steam support are useless copy paste artists.

It doesn't matter what you believe. It is FACT that it is a win because I decide it is. These aren't your profiles to be the deciding factor. Idc if you don't believe I'm a dev. you can believe what you want and argue all you want but I'm not backing down. And what is worse than injustice is those that defend it so you bet yourself I'm here to raise havoc against it.

Lol I look ridiculous, I am not the one on the forums that look to object to every thread and receive a jester badge. Might think at this longevity of doing it that you are going for some record. The amount on your profile says otherwise if you object. See, now that is saying something ridiculous. Just like your statements for game ban abuse.

1 wrong game ban that isn't overturned, makes them all incorrect until the system is made trusted.





Първоначално публикувано от datCookie:
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:

Exactly. Reverse uno. Just like game bans for no reason or any reason doesn't make sense, so yes.

You're still not making any sense my dude. You're not going to "reverse uno" the developer who banned you, because you don't have the power to ban them at all. You saying you do is a complete lie and you have yet to prove that your statement on this is the truth.

Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:
They were twisted and taken literally on purpose for trolling purposes too. Or to bait me to say something that would forum ban me. Shows who the real "toxic" ones are.

Nothing was twisted and no one is trying to bait you. We're trying to correct incorrect information that you continue to post and also to get you to actually do what it is you keep saying you're going to do. And every time we tell you to do it, you just keep saying that it will be done, despite the fact that it never does.

Again, grow up, do what you say you will do and move on.

I don't know if you like people repeating the same song and dance but I already explained the reverse uno. If you think it is ridiculous, then exactly my point. Just like game bans stained on profiles. Also, I can do what I want eventually, I'm not working on your time.

Everytime I explain it to you, you fall back on something completely out of context of what I said. I am not disagreeing I can't game ban someone who hasn't purchased a game I own, either way I would not do it becuse I'm not a you know what. I specifically told you how it would look like the developer was game banned. And that I would have a new account, and the jokes on him at that point. And again, I'll take as long as I need. And again, I will only do it once I know Valve can't do anything about it. Do you understand the words that you are reading right now? Should I copy and paste again for you to understand?

Oh I assure you the only ones that need to grow up and grow a pair for that matter in this situation, is clear. So do us all a favor and leave if you don't like what I say. Your welcome to add me unless you want to keep acting political here. I'll gladly invite you and cguyver.
Последно редактиран от Stealthy; 25 апр. в 12:22
No, they are not all incorrect. Go talk to Valve about CSGO/CS2 game bans or DoTA 2 for that matter and get back to me.
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:
(snip)
This thread isn't about the Task Force Devs nor is the situation applicable to the OPs thread.
You already have a thread about the subject;
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/640179666902058432/
Първоначално публикувано от C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
No, they are not all incorrect. Go talk to Valve about CSGO/CS2 game bans or DoTA 2 for that matter and get back to me.

I was talking about that specific game but while we're at it, even another game, it is impossible to know what is really legit or not just by looking at text on a profile.
Първоначално публикувано от Mad Scientist:
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:
(snip)
This thread isn't about the Task Force Devs nor is the situation applicable to the OPs thread.
You already have a thread about the subject;
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/640179666902058432/

Okay then is there anything you'd like to chime in on at this topic?
Първоначално публикувано от Stealthy:
Първоначално публикувано от Mad Scientist:
This thread isn't about the Task Force Devs nor is the situation applicable to the OPs thread.
You already have a thread about the subject;
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/640179666902058432/

Okay then is there anything you'd like to chime in on at this topic?
This from the user who hijacked and manipulated this entire thread to support his own correct game ban from a completely different game and dev.


lol
While you're at it, remove automatic community wide bans from triggering automatically based on game hub bans, especially when those hubs are all controlled by the same single publisher. It can be used in the same retaliatory fashion.
Първоначално публикувано от D. Flame:
While you're at it, remove automatic community wide bans from triggering automatically based on game hub bans, especially when those hubs are all controlled by the same single publisher. It can be used in the same retaliatory fashion.
It is a bit outside the scope of the thread but the community ban system is clearly a bad fit for its purpose, especially when, like game bans, devs can apply their own hub bans for any or no reason at all and with no oversight or appeal.

Naturally I still enjoy getting people community banned whenever I can because Valve makes it far easier than it ought to be, but it also goes without saying almost everyone, and probably literally everyone, I have ever gotten community banned in such a manner doesn't match the abuse case the community ban system is supposed to prevent, but at least the ones I get applied are for ACTUAL rule violations and not just the whims of developers who need adhere to no standards
Everyone feel free to check out my profile under info for all the links for proof of everything I ever talked about. Also, I posted in my comments other references.

I want to personally apologize to @C2C^Guyver and @datCookie for all my actions previously towards you guys in this discussion for not acting mature. I did it out of anger and I am hoping to be a better person here by no longer engaging about this topic to convince you guys I am right. If you check out my proofs I hope it can convince you that I can get some sort of respect that I am not at fault here. If you don't believe it then so be it. Again, I won't engage anymore in argumentative forms but only discuss if you have any questions about particular links I posted on my profile. Everything I ever talked about I posted there. If I forgot something then please remind me.

As for changing my profile to the developers name so it looks like he has the game ban (reverse uno mention), I really was going to do this, as well as deleting my account. I really would do something like that if giving my word it will be done. I feel that I only said it to try and "1up" you guys in a thread discussion which I admit is ridiculous and childish. I understand moving forward if people want to believe me they will see in time, so having hope eventually the game ban will be gone one day. I hope it satisfies everyone that I will no longer engage in mindless ways, and let my discussions die here. That does not mean I won't stop fighting my game ban which I believe was done out of abuse. I did just email both David Underwood, and Jared Christen using the Valve website.

Again if anyone needs any other proof that I missed or forgot about, let me know and I'll add it in the comments section of my Steam page.

Things I am not putting public unless really requested, other accounts (all clean, no bans) including my first ever account on Steam.
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