Remove third party account requirements.

[Chief Keef]

Games that make you sign through third party accounts to play them are annoying and unnecessary and quite possibly dangerous. I'm not making a Rockstar account just to get my information leaked and my account hacked so that I can never play their games that I bought because their customer service is apparently non-existent. Yeah that's right. If you lost your Rockstar account via your incompetence or theirs you cannot play their games that you bought on Steam. You might never even get your account back because Rockstar has no humans in customer service. It's all automated. Even their customer service page on X(Twitter) hasn't been updated for a while. Another one is why do I need to make an EA account for an offline game that came out in 2011? That's just downright madness isn't it? I beg Steam. Please end this madness.

[Brian9824]

Steam can't remove it as its not their games, nor are they going to force developers to do so. The games that have third party accounts are labeled on the store page, so i'd suggest not buying them if your concerned about it.

[Chief Keef]

Originally posted by Brian9824:

Steam can't remove it as its not their games, nor are they going to force developers to do so. The games that have third party accounts are labeled on the store page, so i'd suggest not buying them if your concerned about it.

Thanks mate. Definitely never buying games from Rockstar or EA ever again.

[King of Games]

im for it.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Emperor Trump:

Originally posted by Brian9824:

Steam can't remove it as its not their games, nor are they going to force developers to do so. The games that have third party accounts are labeled on the store page, so i'd suggest not buying them if your concerned about it.

Thanks mate. Definitely never buying games from Rockstar or EA ever again.

As I always say, the minimum price for a game is always zero. If you don't like the requirements purchasing it places on you, you can always simply not buy it.

[King of Games]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Emperor Trump:

Thanks mate. Definitely never buying games from Rockstar or EA ever again.

As I always say, the minimum price for a game is always zero. If you don't like the requirements purchasing it places on you, you can always simply not buy it.

thats cool and all, unless the company you bought from decides to change the terms post purchase, which they have and will do again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWckALd794

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by King of Games:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

As I always say, the minimum price for a game is always zero. If you don't like the requirements purchasing it places on you, you can always simply not buy it.

thats cool and all, unless the company you bought from decides to change the terms post purchase, which they have and will do again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWckALd794

Download the older version of the game is my solution for that. Steam already allows you to do this, and any half decent gaming community probably already has put together ways to help you achieve that too. There is no reason for you to accept arbitrary changes that reduce the value of your product.

[King of Games]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by King of Games:

thats cool and all, unless the company you bought from decides to change the terms post purchase, which they have and will do again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWckALd794

Download the older version of the game is my solution for that. Steam already allows you to do this, and any half decent gaming community probably already has put together ways to help you achieve that too. There is no reason for you to accept arbitrary changes that reduce the value of your product.

sure you could just go steal the game from a shady site, but at that point why buy that or any game

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by King of Games:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Download the older version of the game is my solution for that. Steam already allows you to do this, and any half decent gaming community probably already has put together ways to help you achieve that too. There is no reason for you to accept arbitrary changes that reduce the value of your product.

sure you could just go steal the game from a shady site, but at that point why buy that or any game

Why indeed? Well you cannot really be said to "steal" anything you cannot ever own, and doubly so not something you actually paid money for. But you don't have to do anything shady. Steam's console allows you to fetch previous depots of any game, and, for instance, RE5 players already have a "rollback" zip which you can just unzip into your RE5 game to get back to the older better version. There's plenty of ways to do this.

[King of Games]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by King of Games:

sure you could just go steal the game from a shady site, but at that point why buy that or any game

Why indeed? Well you cannot really be said to "steal" anything you don't own, and doubly so not something you actually paid money for. But you don't have to do anything shady. Steam's console allows you to fetch previous depots of any game, and, for instance, RE5 players already have a "rollback" zip which you can just unzip into your RE5 game to get back to the older better version. There's plenty of ways to do this.

i doubt rolling back your games version will allow you to skip 3rd party requirements added post release

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by King of Games:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Why indeed? Well you cannot really be said to "steal" anything you don't own, and doubly so not something you actually paid money for. But you don't have to do anything shady. Steam's console allows you to fetch previous depots of any game, and, for instance, RE5 players already have a "rollback" zip which you can just unzip into your RE5 game to get back to the older better version. There's plenty of ways to do this.

i doubt rolling back your games version will allow you to skip 3rd party requirements added post release

For online games, certainly not, but I price that gamble into all my game buying decisions. Is the dev likely to add account requirements in the future? Then no price is acceptable for that game. It is why I have Deep Rock and Crime Boss and not Payday or Helldivers or B4B. You have no leverage with those so there's no point in compromising even a little.

For solo games you absolutely could avoid new requirements by staying on the version that predates them

[King of Games]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by King of Games:

i doubt rolling back your games version will allow you to skip 3rd party requirements added post release

For online games, certainly not, but I price that gamble into all my game buying decisions. Is the dev likely to add account requirements in the future? Then no price is acceptable for that game. It is why I have Deep Rock and Crime Boss and not Payday or Helldivers or B4B. You have no leverage with those so there's no point in compromising even a little.

For solo games you absolutely could avoid new requirements by staying on the version that predates them

well, i think i have 2 games on steam that added launcher post release. GTAV and Stellaris. Idc enough to go through the hastle of trying to role them back. The game i would like to is Immortal Fenyx rising but i have that on Epic and im sure the Ubisoft connect requirement is also mandatory now on the Steam version.

But if you have a game that requires 3rd party launcher post release and what to bother rolling it back to see if it goes you can try and let us know, because EGS doesnt allow for version rollback

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

Yes, a game put on Steam should not have 3rd party account requirements, but could give incentives to users to use/add them.

[nullable]

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

Yes, a game put on Steam should not have 3rd party account requirements

Says who? Because the product owners seem to feel differently and that's the opinion that matters. And Valve has never been in the business of managing other people's products, and that policy matters too. Some users might have opinions, or wish Valve would abuse Steam to enforce the user's values, but that's not very reasonable or realistic.

IE you're already outvoted 2:1

[King of Games]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

Yes, a game put on Steam should not have 3rd party account requirements

Says who, because the product owners seem to feel differently and Valve has never been in the business of managing other people's products. Some users might have opinions, or wish Valve would abuse Steam to enforce the user's values, but that's not very reasonable or realistic.

you mean like just the other day when Valve said youre not allowed to have games that force the players to watch advertisements lol

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

Yes, a game put on Steam should not have 3rd party account requirements

Says who? Because the product owners seem to feel differently and that's the opinion that matters. And Valve has never been in the business of managing other people's products, and that policy matters too. Some users might have opinions, or wish Valve would abuse Steam to enforce the user's values, but that's not very reasonable or realistic.

IE you're already outvoted 2:1

Things change and Valve has already stated some things you can and cannot do in their games while uploading to Steam, like the advertising a few days ago and even having crypto in them.

This would be a nothing burger compared to those already and as I said you can give the user a choice to use it rather than making them which can be a completely different outlook user have with them.