Remove or make optional pre-approved payments agreement when buying through Paypal

[wroot]

Recently Valve has started to force you to sign a pre-approved payments agreement when trying to fund Steam Wallet or buy an item with your Paypal account. Before it was just a "Pay" button. Now it presents you with an agreement text and the button "Agree and Continue". You have no other option if you want to proceed with a payment. If you do this, then you will have a subscription registered in Paypal and in the future it won't ask you about your Paypal password to authorize the payment, but will take the money automatically.

I see this as a less secure way of payment and ask to at least provide an option to skip this agreement. I use steam on various devices, which can be stolen, used by kids, friends, and i don't want for someone deliberately or accidentally spend my Paypal account money (of course Valve would love that )

I have already contacted support and after feeding me with automated answers at first they've told me it's not a support case and that i should post it here. Not putting much hope into this (as usual with Steam support and Valve), but hey, they can't blame me i didn't do this.

A workaround for this is to go to Paypal account after every payment to Steam and Cancel the subscription, which is annoying.

[Tito Shivan]

Untick the "Save my payment information"[www.dropbox.com] checkbox when making a purchase and it won't get stored.
You can also remove stored payment methods through your Account Details.

The system is as secure as storing any other payment method on Steam.

[wroot]

If i do this, i will have to input my billing address and other information every time i buy something on Steam? This will be inconvenient too. The thing is it wasn't like that a few weeks ago and now they decided everyone should have a subscription and as usually Steam does, they do not give a CHOICE. Is it hard to add another checkbox like "Sign a pre-approved payment agreement". They can even make it turned on by default (and make it remember the settings if they really care about their users). I will uncheck it before proceeding with a payment.

[Discgolf]

Yeah, seriously. I've always like how it pre-fills most of my info, but then I still input the final password on Paypal. It was both convenient, and secure. So if someone stole my Steam account, they couldn't just buy 10,000 TF2 keys to resell and leave me hanging. With this though, it sounds like I've now got to choose between having either the convince of having my info auto-filled (everything but the Paypal password), or having the security of that final password-input on Paypal.

If it comes down to that, I'd rather have the security, hands down, no question. I canceled the auto-pay subscription on Paypal, so now we'll have to see if that means I have to fill out the basic info page for no reason now, in addition to the final password fill-out on Paypal which I want.

[F0X]

That's especially ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up since Steam had practiced BANNING of accounts for using PayPal's refund system. So now it forces access for unauthorized purchases under risk of losing funds _and_ get banned. It couldn't be more screwed up.

[wuddih]

Originally posted by F0X:

That's especially ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up since Steam had practiced BANNING of accounts for using PayPal's refund system. So now it forces access for unauthorized purchases under risk of losing funds _and_ get banned. It couldn't be more screwed up.

paypal does not have a refund system for standard payment transactions. the button is named "chargeback" and it is a fraudulent activity if you do this with a legitimate from yourself instructed payment.

steam has its own refund system, which you have to use. NO payment provider ever is authorised to do "refunds" initiated by the customer.