Allow me to toggle seeing swear words

[_galaxy]

Look, I get you don't want a toxic platform.

But what if I can choose to see the swears?

A lot of games have that option. They disable voice and swear by default and let the players choose for themselves.


THIS IS NOT AN INCENTIVE TO TOXICITY.

I don't believe saying things like the hard N should be allowed, but things like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and ♥♥♥♥ shouldn't be a problem if a player chooses to interact with it.

EDIT:

Valve has swear toggle on steam chat, not community forums. It might be either a technical issue or a community issue for them no to put swear toggle on community forums. For anyone saying they shouldn't because X, they already did something like it.

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

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Wait, isn't there a swearfilter on the forums that you can turn off? What happened to that?

The toggle itself was never meant for the forums.

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Oh, so the feature was removed for the forums?

[wuddih]

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

The toggle itself was never meant for the forums.

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Oh, so the feature was removed for the forums?

no, it was always "just" for chat. nothing was removed either.

[SleepyHollow]

It should be removed entirely, it is childish to censor words in general.
Are you 5 and your parents don't want you learning swear words or what?
There is no valid reason to censoring insults.

And for any small kids like that on steam they should be either mature enough or be on steam with the parent lock enabled.

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wuddih eredeti hozzászólása:

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Oh, so the feature was removed for the forums?

no, it was always "just" for chat. nothing was removed either.

Weird. I swear I previously tested the forum filter, refreshing before and after setting the language preferences, and it made a difference. I tested it just now and it didn't, which tells me that they removed this feature from the forum.

[Aachen]

SleepyHollow eredeti hozzászólása:

It should be removed entirely, it is childish to censor words in general.
Are you 5 and your parents don't want you learning swear words or what?
There is no valid reason to censoring insults.

And for any small kids like that on steam they should be either mature enough or be on steam with the parent lock enabled.

You really want to further enable scammers?

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SleepyHollow eredeti hozzászólása:

It should be removed entirely, it is childish to censor words in general.

It is childish to use those words in general.
FTFY

[SleepyHollow]

Aachen eredeti hozzászólása:

SleepyHollow eredeti hozzászólása:

It should be removed entirely, it is childish to censor words in general.
Are you 5 and your parents don't want you learning swear words or what?
There is no valid reason to censoring insults.

And for any small kids like that on steam they should be either mature enough or be on steam with the parent lock enabled.

You really want to further enable scammers?

I didnt mean it for phishing sites. They should be blacklisted.

Although the link filter is also abused to censor legitimate competitors such as sites where you can buy steam games often for less than on the steam store.

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SleepyHollow eredeti hozzászólása:

It should be removed entirely, it is childish to censor words in general.

It is childish to use those words in general.
FTFY

Depends in what situation, sometimes its the most accurate way to describe something or someone for example

[_galaxy]

This is interesting, if the toggle is a feature for steam chat they know on some scenarios swearing can be allowed.

So I'm willing to make a compromise. Let the devs choose between toggle and hard-censor on certain communities. If it's a child's game, I am ok with the system disabling swear words. On FPS shooters, meme games and R18+ games, there's no reason to not put a toggle.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

The toggle itself was never meant for the forums.

Oh, so the feature was removed for the forums?

It was broken/bugged the first couple weeks it went live and it affected the forums. I also remember playing around with it in a few threads with mods around. Valve did fix it though. So, kinda but not really.

[_galaxy]

ACTUALLY, this is even more interesting, because on the steam chat filter settings they have 3 options: Disable all, disable offensive (and let normal swearing), and enable all.

Valve definitely has a understanding of this. They just choose to not put a filter option on the community settings.

If there's a proper reason for this, I'm willing to listen. But some people here coming with "bur hurr you shouldnt swear" or "disable all filters this is not a child platform" will probably make them not take this thread seriously

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davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

_galaxy eredeti hozzászólása:

This is interesting, if the toggle is a feature for steam chat they know on some scenarios swearing can be allowed.

So I'm willing to make a compromise. Let the devs choose between toggle and hard-censor on certain communities. If it's a child's game, I am ok with the system disabling swear words. On FPS shooters, meme games and R18+ games, there's no reason to not put a toggle.

toggles cannot be set up like that.
It's all across the forums period.
Steam set it up that way.
Trying to get them to change it now would be like turning lead to gold, a literal impossible task.*

*With nuclear fusion, it is theoretically possible, but you'd need like 40 billion tons of lead to get a couple of tons of gold.

How could you even know? You're not a valve developer.

I remember valve had some technical issue on forums when it came to modding or something but not much besides that

STOP saying they cant. It's up for them to decide.

[_galaxy]

let them decide

[MadBone12]

SleepyHollow eredeti hozzászólása:

Although the link filter is also abused to censor legitimate competitors such as sites where you can buy steam games often for less than on the steam store.

Which legitimate competitors are being censored?

[Brian9824]

_galaxy eredeti hozzászólása:

ACTUALLY, this is even more interesting, because on the steam chat filter settings they have 3 options: Disable all, disable offensive (and let normal swearing), and enable all.

Valve definitely has a understanding of this. They just choose to not put a filter option on the community settings.

If there's a proper reason for this, I'm willing to listen. But some people here coming with "bur hurr you shouldnt swear" or "disable all filters this is not a child platform" will probably make them not take this thread seriously

A chat is between 2 specific people. A post on the forum is visible to over a BILLION steam accounts.

Hence why 1 has more restrictions. Someone swearing in chat isn't seen by random people where as someone swearing on the forums IS

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

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Oh, so the feature was removed for the forums?

It was broken/bugged the first couple weeks it went live and it affected the forums. I also remember playing around with it in a few threads with mods around. Valve did fix it though. So, kinda but not really.

:qr:

I see...

I still think they can have had one filter for swearwords that can be disabled and another filter for malicious links and such that can't be disabled.

But oh well.

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Nonsense. It's been explained plenty of times already.
You cannot ignore the evidence that it AFFECTS THE ENTIRE FORUM AS A WHOLE.

Actually if it's implemented as a per-user setting, it only affects what each particular user sees, rather than affecting the forum as a whole.