option to hide the hidden posts from blocked users

[Psymon²]

we've all encountered users who are irrational, don't read your post, have nothing better to do than try and strawman or gaslight or harass or insult or...
the only tool we have is to block, since the report feature is a waste to all except those who commit report abuse.
and we know there's nothing to gain from clicking "show" on a blocked users post.

i don't even want to see "blocked user - show", so give us an option to hide the hidden messages completely.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

Why should it be up the the person being harassed and not the person who originally blocked them? After all, the whole reason to block someone is so you don't interact with them.

You aren't making sense. The point of this thread is that the block-function doesn't really do what it's purposed to. In other forums aka boards the block-function simply does what the thread-poster states: you block someone and the posts of blocked users aren't shown to that "blocking" person anymore. That serves the purpose that you can completely ignore spammers and trolls and concentrate yourself on comments from serious users.

The block-function on STEAM however keeps blocked user's comments still visible it just SPOILERS them. That kinda provokes that user still look onto the spoilered comments and it also generates the mindset on regular community-users that people still look through all thread-posts - whether they are spoilered or not doesn't matter.

And in the same way... and I already mentioned this in another thread... the regular community-user can't tell whether some statements / comments are seen by everyone within a thread. Even trolls and spammers sometimes post correct or half-correct answers. Now... think about it... when someone doesn't respond to a correct post within a thread... does this motivate others to post within an ongoing thread? I at least don't think so.
What if... a troll or spammer is one of the last people who post within a thread and nobody responds to it? Some people may think that might be a true comment / answer to the original topic - even when it's not.
That makes this halfway... user-blocking... halfway...user-spoilering in general problematic. But it's also a fact that some people need the blocking list as function - it's just that there is a lot of room for improvements.

Except people will block because potato.

There is a very specific reason that it was mentioned about a user blocking someone and then harassing them on their artwork. The results may just shock you.

[ErzPaladin]

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

Except people will block because potato.

There is a very specific reason that it was mentioned about a user blocking someone and then harassing them on their artwork. The results may just shock you.

Well, if they are blocking you just because they are potato then... so be it. Happens. But you can't call blocking someone via block list harassment. Blocking serves the purpose of self-protection.

[76561199648916059]

After a while you start to see more blocked then those not blocked, it embodies the issue of low population on the forums, you don't even need to block more then a dozen people and you start to notice how frequent and empty the forums are when you remove the steam filter conversation from the topic

For example on this thread if I remove the known instigators and argumentive individuals that never offer positive topic discussion I am left with a actual discussion about this topic that doesn't have Injection from what I consider steam narrative trying to undermine topics.

I look at it like this, I don't care what they want to say and I don't need to read it, they don't exist to me, seeing blocked when they post doesn't matter cause I know they are just another gimmick within a already flawed system so I don't waste my time.

More people need to just acknowledge that fact and suddenly they are powerless to do anything, the best part is you don't have to read how they try to create argument.

This form of social ignorance is the best steam can offer so use what they give us, we can't expect steam to do better, it's just not within steams profit margine

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

Except people will block because potato.

There is a very specific reason that it was mentioned about a user blocking someone and then harassing them on their artwork. The results may just shock you.

Well, if they are blocking you just because they are potato then... so be it. Happens. But you can't call blocking someone via block list harassment. Blocking serves the purpose of self-protection.

No one called it harassment.

The harassment is continuing to comment on the artwork of the user that was blocked.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: Majestically Awkward

After a while you start to see more blocked then those not blocked, it embodies the issue of low population on the forums, you don't even need to block more then a dozen people and you start to notice how frequent and empty the forums are when you remove the steam filter conversation from the topic

So that only lasted 2 days.

[William Shakesman]

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

Except people will block because potato.

There is a very specific reason that it was mentioned about a user blocking someone and then harassing them on their artwork. The results may just shock you.

Well, if they are blocking you just because they are potato then... so be it. Happens. But you can't call blocking someone via block list harassment. Blocking serves the purpose of self-protection.

People always like to derail these suggestion threads into their own personal beefs with random people. Best to just ignore it.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: William Shakesman

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Well, if they are blocking you just because they are potato then... so be it. Happens. But you can't call blocking someone via block list harassment. Blocking serves the purpose of self-protection.

People always like to derail these suggestion threads into their own personal beefs with random people. Best to just ignore it.

You should really read what you're quoting.

[Psymon²]

Автор сообщения: William Shakesman

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Well, if they are blocking you just because they are potato then... so be it. Happens. But you can't call blocking someone via block list harassment. Blocking serves the purpose of self-protection.

People always like to derail these suggestion threads into their own personal beefs with random people. Best to just ignore it.

don't forget, they call their derailments "discussion"
and they remind anyone who points out their intentional disruption that this "isn't an affirmation forum"
holy moly is it boring and detrimental to people that actually want to discuss rationally.

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[ErzPaladin]

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Well, if they are blocking you just because they are potato then... so be it. Happens. But you can't call blocking someone via block list harassment. Blocking serves the purpose of self-protection.

No one called it harassment.

The harassment is continuing to comment on the artwork of the user that was blocked.

harassment is a general problem, but that has normally nothing to do with setting a user on a blocklist, cause it doesn't banish this user from the thread and the discussion.

In the ideal case it helps innocent people to ignore spammers and trolls. It's just that a discussion isn't that ideal and is influenced by other factors, too. Some thread-viewers may misinterpret a none-respond to a comment as dodging a question or as dodging facts. That can in fact be the case, but it can also just be a misinterpretation. Not responding to a comment can also just mean that a user is sick of continuing the discussion or simply... that he-she didn't read it.

And another simple reason can be... that he-she doesn't react on posts from blocked users. Which is also... why it would be a good idea to have an indication (like a symbol / icon or something else) whether a post from a user can be seen by the thread-poster or not.

Edit:

And maybe further individual indicators for every thread-participator would be a good idea, too.

[76561199648916059]

It also makes them look really stupid to the rest of the discussion when you have them blocked and never engage and they keep trying to insult you, or even better break out sleeper accounts that just get instantly blocked because post history of two year old inactive accounts just don't show up on your topic everyday to discredit it.

[Psymon²]

Автор сообщения: Majestically Awkward

It also makes them look really stupid to the rest of the discussion when you have them blocked and never engage and they keep trying to insult you, or even better break out sleeper accounts that just get instantly blocked because post history of two year old inactive accounts just don't show up on your topic everyday to discredit it.

i do love how often the users who complain about alts are the ones using alts

[76561199648916059]

I agree I feel like more control is needed for topic creators, having a option for blocked posts to be invisible would make sense and allow users to completely ignore those they choose to block, it gets weird seeing blocked user repeatedly

[Elucidator]

I also agree with the OP and their suggestion.
It also gives me a lot more time to forgive someone without needing to witness them do the same stuff over and over; something that shouldn't even bother me as much as it does.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: Majestically Awkward

I agree I feel like more control is needed for topic creators, having a option for blocked posts to be invisible would make sense and allow users to completely ignore those they choose to block

You already have that option.
You pretty much have it without ignoring the user in the forums.

As I said earlier the problem isn't in the block function.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: ErzPaladin

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

No one called it harassment.

The harassment is continuing to comment on the artwork of the user that was blocked.

harassment is a general problem, but that has normally nothing to do with setting a user on a blocklist, cause it doesn't banish this user from the thread and the discussion.

In the ideal case it helps innocent people to ignore spammers and trolls. It's just that a discussion isn't that ideal and is influenced by other factors, too. Some thread-viewers may misinterpret a none-respond to a comment as dodging a question or as dodging facts. That can in fact be the case, but it can also just be a misinterpretation. Not responding to a comment can also just mean that a user is sick of continuing the discussion or simply... that he-she didn't read it.

And another simple reason can be... that he-she doesn't react on posts from blocked users. Which is also... why it would be a good idea to have an indication (like a symbol / icon or something else) whether a post from a user can be seen by the thread-poster or not.

Edit:

And maybe further individual indicators for every thread-participator would be a good idea, too.

Ironically, you're suggesting actually encourages harassment.