Learn from 3rd party sites

[Irene ❤]

Do you know that over 30 games have 90% discount right now?

Which 10 games have the highest player?

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

All the information are provided by 3rd party websites.

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Why must we use them? How long must we use them? It's time for valve to improve on their store page.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por SlowMango:

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

Yep, it has nothing to with in the client, such things also have nothing to do with bloat... as I've said before... bold claims

If done on the client, it would be bloat. Like Totoro implied.

As he said correctly, it's web based, hence no issue. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Brian9824]

I mean the data the OP wanted is already available without using a 3rd party site for at leat the first 2 items, they just didn't know where to look.

[Maria]

Escrito originalmente por nullable:

Or maybe users could stop being greedy. Sometimes the price is the price, and if you don't like it, don't buy it. If the 3rd party sites you're either praising are so great, why do you care? And if you're worried about scams and fraud, well that's not really a strong position to criticize Valve over.

I'm not a trader but I think OP made a pretty good point.

Reducing tax fees isn't necessarily always about personal greed. High tax fees may discourage economic activity. On the other hand, reducing taxes will attract more users to use steam to trade their stupidly expensive knives, leading to increased tax revenue.

More users that use Steam means fewer users that will use grey sites. Fewer people that use grey sites means fewer people that will get duped.

It is a win-win solution

[Fr4ntic]

Escrito originalmente por Irene ❤:

Do you know that over 30 games have 90% discount right now?

Which 10 games have the highest player?

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

All the information are provided by 3rd party websites.

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Why must we use them? How long must we use them? It's time for valve to improve on their store page.

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

There are reasons why 3rd party sites arent allowed.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por Fr4ntic:

Escrito originalmente por Irene ❤:

Do you know that over 30 games have 90% discount right now?

Which 10 games have the highest player?

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

All the information are provided by 3rd party websites.

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Why must we use them? How long must we use them? It's time for valve to improve on their store page.

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

There are reasons why 3rd party sites arent allowed.

That's not OP's logic at all. I suggest you read the post again.

[cinedine]

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

Escrito originalmente por Fr4ntic:

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

There are reasons why 3rd party sites arent allowed.

That's not OP's logic at all. I suggest you read the post again.

Amazing how many people seem to be not capable of reading the OP.

Escrito originalmente por Fr4ntic:

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

Nah, their logi is you have to be visit another store to find out which colour their TVs are, another one to find out which are their bestsellers and yet another one to shift through their bargin bin, because they somehow managed to throw a couple -10 % off refrigerators on top of the 1-dollar DVDs.

[Brian9824]

Escrito originalmente por cinedine:

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

That's not OP's logic at all. I suggest you read the post again.

Amazing how many people seem to be not capable of reading the OP.

Escrito originalmente por Fr4ntic:

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

Nah, their logi is you have to be visit another store to find out which colour their TVs are, another one to find out which are their bestsellers and yet another one to shift through their bargin bin, because they somehow managed to throw a couple -10 % off refrigerators on top of the 1-dollar DVDs.

Except its already been disproved that several of the examples the OP provided do not involve having to visit a 3rd party site and are viewable from steam if you know where to look.

Unfortunately some people are in such a hurry to attack users or steam that they don't read the thread or the responses...

[William Shakesman]

Escrito originalmente por cinedine:

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

That's not OP's logic at all. I suggest you read the post again.

Amazing how many people seem to be not capable of reading the OP.

Escrito originalmente por Fr4ntic:

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

Nah, their logi is you have to be visit another store to find out which colour their TVs are, another one to find out which are their bestsellers and yet another one to shift through their bargin bin, because they somehow managed to throw a couple -10 % off refrigerators on top of the 1-dollar DVDs.

I am honestly shocked by the number of posts that have nothing to do with OP. Like third party sites is some mkultra trigger word around here.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

Escrito originalmente por cinedine:

Amazing how many people seem to be not capable of reading the OP.



Nah, their logi is you have to be visit another store to find out which colour their TVs are, another one to find out which are their bestsellers and yet another one to shift through their bargin bin, because they somehow managed to throw a couple -10 % off refrigerators on top of the 1-dollar DVDs.

Except its already been disproved that several of the examples the OP provided do not involve having to visit a 3rd party site and are viewable from steam if you know where to look.

Unfortunately some people are in such a hurry to attack users or steam that they don't read the thread or the responses...

You are wrong.

You need to visit 3rd party sites for plenty of reasons:
- when filtering for newly added steam backgrounds.
-when sorting bgs or emoticons by certain attributes like color, brightness etc...
-when you want sort games by the number of cards required to craft a set
...

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por cinedine:

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

That's not OP's logic at all. I suggest you read the post again.

Amazing how many people seem to be not capable of reading the OP.

Escrito originalmente por Fr4ntic:

With your logic I could go to store where they sell lets say wide screen tv's and demand they lower the price since Ive seen a stolen tv for half price somewhere.

Nah, their logi is you have to be visit another store to find out which colour their TVs are, another one to find out which are their bestsellers and yet another one to shift through their bargin bin, because they somehow managed to throw a couple -10 % off refrigerators on top of the 1-dollar DVDs.

Yep, it also surprises me every time as well.

[Volfogg]

Okay, but what do I need such information for? Why would I want that? Sounds like a waste of resources.

[Brian9824]

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

Except its already been disproved that several of the examples the OP provided do not involve having to visit a 3rd party site and are viewable from steam if you know where to look.

Unfortunately some people are in such a hurry to attack users or steam that they don't read the thread or the responses...

You are wrong.

You need to visit 3rd party sites for plenty of reasons:
- when filtering for newly added steam backgrounds.
-when sorting bgs or emoticons by certain attributes like color, brightness etc...
-when you want sort games by the number of cards required to craft a set
...

None of which was brought up by the OP, so no, not wrong. I specifically said the examples provided by the OP are at least in part wrong as that data is already visible on steam.

Stuff like top 10 games with the highest players for instance is already visible on steam and does not require visiting a 3rd party site. As is most of the other RELEVANT data that vast majority of people would use

I never claimed steam organized and made available every random crazy metric some user somewhere wants like the brightness of emoticons.....

[Mad Scientist]

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

Except its already been disproved that several of the examples the OP provided do not involve having to visit a 3rd party site and are viewable from steam if you know where to look.

Unfortunately some people are in such a hurry to attack users or steam that they don't read the thread or the responses...

You are wrong.

You need to visit 3rd party sites for plenty of reasons:
- when filtering for newly added steam backgrounds.
-when sorting bgs or emoticons by certain attributes like color, brightness etc...
-when you want sort games by the number of cards required to craft a set
...

The legitimate ones do not require a Steam Login.
There is an emoticon/community market site that lets you do those things without needing to login, that is unrestricted in use.

Sites requiring or requesting logins should always be treated with high scrutiny as that is the highest point of accounts being compromised, most are literally made to phish & steal inventories & accounts.

The best account security method is not using your steam login outside of steam.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por Mad Scientist:

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

You are wrong.

You need to visit 3rd party sites for plenty of reasons:
- when filtering for newly added steam backgrounds.
-when sorting bgs or emoticons by certain attributes like color, brightness etc...
-when you want sort games by the number of cards required to craft a set
...

The legitimate ones do not require a Steam Login.
There is an emoticon/community market site that lets you do those things without needing to login, that is unrestricted in use.

Sites requiring or requesting logins should always be treated with high scrutiny as that is the highest point of accounts being compromised, most are literally made to phish & steal inventories & accounts.

The best account security method is not using your steam login outside of steam.

The point is to not always having to rely on these 3rd party sites. Such basic functionality should already exist in steam.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

Escrito originalmente por ?legit:

You are wrong.

You need to visit 3rd party sites for plenty of reasons:
- when filtering for newly added steam backgrounds.
-when sorting bgs or emoticons by certain attributes like color, brightness etc...
-when you want sort games by the number of cards required to craft a set
...

None of which was brought up by the OP, so no, not wrong. I specifically said the examples provided by the OP are at least in part wrong as that data is already visible on steam.

Stuff like top 10 games with the highest players for instance is already visible on steam and does not require visiting a 3rd party site. As is most of the other RELEVANT data that vast majority of people would use

I never claimed steam organized and made available every random crazy metric some user somewhere wants like the brightness of emoticons.....

You obviously don't use the steam market very often, I see. This has nothing to do with crazy metrics, but more like fundametal and basic features, like sorting items by release, etc. Those are standard features on a marketplace.

It also stands in the OP.

Escrito originalmente por Irene ❤:

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Easy search: thats probably the most important important, I even made a suggestion a few years ago, that the search in the market is outright terrible. You have to click through lots of unnecessary mobile like menus to access the steam items search. It is beyond terrible in regards to the UX.

Again, if you used the market you would immediately understand that.